Anyone heard of the Texan who shot & killed suspects robbing his neighbor?

[quinnsft34]

It's justice to shoot and kill unarmed robbers in the back as they were running away and who didn't harm anyone? hno:

They're robbers man are you serious? If they didn't want to get shot at why are they committing crime? You don't think them stealing somebody's stuff is harmful to them? If that were your house would you be ok with someone stealing your shit?

Nice work Mr. Horn.

 

[Seymour]

Seymour, i wouldn't tie hypothetical questions like that to this case. The world is full of what if's and more what if's. Sure, maybe if these thieves got away then the in the next house there might be girls there who gets raped or killed by them. Or maybe not, b/c although they're thieves, they might not be rapists or killers. Do you know? Do I know? Did Horn know before he went out there and decided to be the judge jury and executioner?

If you like filling your world up with "what if's" then why don't YOU go out there and do some vigilante justice yourself? Go and kill you some pimps and robbers and gang-bangers in your town. After all, you'd be making your whole town a safer place, no?

It's not really a hypothetical - these guys break in homes - that's what they do - this wasn't there first time - it was a mathematical certainty they would eventually break into someone's home and kill the people inside - Horn just took the math out of the equation - who knows - maybe they would have gotten me - if so, I want to say "Big Ups" to Horn - but on behalf of society as a whole I would like to thank Horn for making this place a little bit better.

 

[Enfuego]

I don't sympathize with thievery in the least bit but Mr. Horn was not acting in self defense and that's very obvious from that transcript. Mr. Horn decided to kill two men because what they were doing was illegal and he didn't like it.

I applaud Mr. Horn for his efforts but he's going to jail. Mr. Horn used very bad judgement in this situation. We have the right to protect ourselves but you cannot take the law into your own hands and kill a man because you don't like what he's doing. I can't kill someone because I see them driving without a seatbelt can I?

Once again, if guns are outlawed in America than Mr. Horn does not kill these guys and the cops catch them 5 minutes later as they run down the road. Now, Mr. Horn is going to jail, two guys are dead and 3 families are changed forever. I'm sorry Mr. Horn but you brought it upon yourself.

 

[ILMW]

F this shit I am going down to my local harware store and picking up some more ammo for my shotgun, I gots a feeling this place is going to hell in a handbag.

 

[ILMW]

I don't sympathize with thievery in the least bit but Mr. Horn was not acting in self defense and that's very obvious from that transcript. Mr. Horn decided to kill two men because what they were doing was illegal and he didn't like it.

I applaud Mr. Horn for his efforts but he's going to jail. Mr. Horn used very bad judgement in this situation. We have the right to protect ourselves but you cannot take the law into your own hands and kill a man because you don't like what he's doing. I can't kill someone because I see them driving without a seatbelt can I?

Once again, if guns are outlawed in America than Mr. Horn does not kill these guys and the cops catch them 5 minutes later as they run down the road. Now, Mr. Horn is going to jail, two guys are dead and 3 families are changed forever. I'm sorry Mr. Horn but you brought it upon yourself.

Right if guns were outlawed this does not happen. Just like if guns were outlawed all the bad guys would have none. Some simple people in this thread.



:monsters-

 

[Seymour]

About 3 months ago some gentlemen broke into a house a little south of me - the guy played football for the Redskins - does anyone know how's doing?

 

[Uno]

to the point that he should have shot them in the legs that is ludicrous... just pray you are never in that spot where you are aiming your shotgun for some guys legs who is not standing still.

also don't forget he was on the phone waiting for the police... if you think he was looking for this trouble you are wrong... he was looking to do what he thought was right even at risk of harm to himself.

there is no telling what other crimes these guys had committed and what people they may have harmed.

lastly this was reported because of it's uniqueness... imagine how many stories go unreported on this level because the guy (Horn or whatever his equivilant) in the case got killed. Easy to say he did wrong when he lived and you have no clue what it is like to be in his shoes.

 

[Uno]

can someone post the "Robbers Bill of Rights" please??

 

[Mindware]

It's not really a hypothetical - these guys break in homes - that's what they do - this wasn't there first time - it was a mathematical certainty they would eventually break into someone's home and kill the people inside - Horn just took the math out of the equation - who knows - maybe they would have gotten me - if so, I want to say "Big Ups" to Horn - but on behalf of society as a whole I would like to thank Horn for making this place a little bit better.

There's a mathematical certainty that these thieves would've killed one of their victims in the future? Really is there a mathematical stat for this, that all career thieves kill at one point during their jobs? Again, then why don't you do our whole society a favor and go kill yourself some robbers, pimps, and whatever scumbags in this world?

You obviously wouldn't do it, but you applaud someone who clearly acted as judge, jury and executioner?

I think you're missing the point. I'm not saying these thieves don't deserve a beat down, or that Horn doesn't have a right to bear arms and protect himself. But it's the fact that HE HIMSELF WASN'T IN ANY DANGER. Hey, if those dead thieves decided to break into Horn's house right after they were done with his neighbor's then I could give two shits if Horn killed them in his front door, or as they were trying to climb through his window or whatever the fuck.

 

[lapdance]

I don't sympathize with thievery in the least bit but Mr. Horn was not acting in self defense and that's very obvious from that transcript. Mr. Horn decided to kill two men because what they were doing was illegal and he didn't like it.

I applaud Mr. Horn for his efforts but he's going to jail. Mr. Horn used very bad judgement in this situation. We have the right to protect ourselves but you cannot take the law into your own hands and kill a man because you don't like what he's doing. I can't kill someone because I see them driving without a seatbelt can I?

Once again, if guns are outlawed in America than Mr. Horn does not kill these guys and the cops catch them 5 minutes later as they run down the road. Now, Mr. Horn is going to jail, two guys are dead and 3 families are changed forever. I'm sorry Mr. Horn but you brought it upon yourself.

i know that if i'm on that jury mr horn ain't going to jail, shit i'll vote to give him a key to the city.

 

[Mindware]

to the point that he should have shot them in the legs that is ludicrous... just pray you are never in that spot where you are aiming your shotgun for some guys legs who is not standing still.

also don't forget he was on the phone waiting for the police... if you think he was looking for this trouble you are wrong... he was looking to do what he thought was right even at risk of harm to himself.

there is no telling what other crimes these guys had committed and what people they may have harmed.

lastly this was reported because of it's uniqueness... imagine how many stories go unreported on this level because the guy (Horn or whatever his equivilant) in the case got killed. Easy to say he did wrong when he lived and you have no clue what it is like to be in his shoes.

You're wrong. What's unique about this case and what gets people fired up is that Horn decided to be the judge, jury and executioner and the law allowed him to do so. No one would give two shits about this case if the robbers broke into Horn's house and killed him or if Horn killed the robbers breaking into HIS house. It's the fact that he went out there and decided to kill the robbers b/c he didn't like what they did after being repeatedly told to stay in his house.

READ THE DAMN TRANSCRIPT MAN! Better yet, listen to the recording. Horn was clearly a man who is gung-ho about his right to bear arm and felt like the authorities that be (the dispatcher) were somehow trying to suppress his right which got him even more angry and upset.

 

[Enfuego]

About 3 months ago some gentlemen broke into a house a little south of me - the guy played football for the Redskins - does anyone know how's doing?

Don't be a bonehead. Sean Taylor could've defended himself with a weapon in his house because of the circumstances. Running after a thief who has stolen your neighbors' property is not self defense and Mr. Horn is going to jail.

Look fellas, I'm not telling you I condone the actions of the criminals but you can't chase them down after they've commited the crime and kill them in cold blood as they run from the crime scence.

Answer me this will you please? If a cop is driving and sees a man sexually assaulting a woman in an alley and he stops. The man gets off the ground and starts running from the scene after seeing the cop. Can the cop shoot the man in the back as the rapist runs down the street?

The answer is very clearly NO. Use your heads here not your hearts when debating these issues.

 

[steaktartar]

You're wrong. What's unique about this case and what gets people fired up is that Horn decided to be the judge, jury and executioner and the law allowed him to do so. No one would give two shits about this case if the robbers broke into Horn's house and killed him or if Horn killed the robbers breaking into HIS house. It's the fact that he went out there and decided to kill the robbers b/c he didn't like what they did after being repeatedly told to stay in his house.

READ THE DAMN TRANSCRIPT MAN! Better yet, listen to the recording. Horn was clearly a man who is gung-ho about his right to bear arm and felt like the authorities that be (the dispatcher) were somehow trying to suppress his right which got him even more angry and upset.

dont try and reason with the gun toting badass rx crowd it isnt worth it

 

[BadCo]

Damnit what's the title of those Charles Bronson movies?

You know he's a bad ass vigil ante,loved those movies and hell our inner cities could use a few Chucks!

 

[Enfuego]

i know that if i'm on that jury mr horn ain't going to jail, shit i'll vote to give him a key to the city.

You would be ignoring the law if you let him off and you can't do that as a juror. I'd convict him in a second even though I wouldn't want to.

 

[JakeT.]

can someone post the "Robbers Bill of Rights" please??

In this country, it's the same as mine or your Bill of Rights.

 

[Mindware]

dont try and reason with the gun toting badass rx crowd it isnt worth it

yea no shit, huh

 

[Seymour]

There's a mathematical certainty that these thieves would've killed one of their victims in the future? Really is there a mathematical stat for this, that all career thieves kill at one point during their jobs? Again, then why don't you do our whole society a favor and go kill yourself some robbers, pimps, and whatever scumbags in this world?

You obviously wouldn't do it, but you applaud someone who clearly acted as judge, jury and executioner?

I think you're missing the point. I'm not saying these thieves don't deserve a beat down, or that Horn doesn't have a right to bear arms and protect himself. But it's the fact that HE HIMSELF WASN'T IN ANY DANGER. Hey, if those dead thieves decided to break into Horn's house right after they were done with his neighbor's then I could give two shits if Horn killed them in his front door, or as they were trying to climb through his window or whatever the fuck.

I'm not missing the point whatsoever - of course, I think the guy should have stayed in his home and waited for the police - do I care these guys are gone? nope - is society better without them? yep

 

[Mindware]

I'm not missing the point whatsoever - of course, I think the guy should have stayed in his home and waited for the police - do I care these guys are gone? nope - is society better without them? yep

:lolBIG: Seymour, you clearly are missing the point man. What u just said there is what everyone including myself totally agree with. He clearly should've stayed in his home and waited for the police, and obviously no one gives a fuck that these robbers are dead, and YES society IS better w/o them.

The point is, did Horn have the right to do what he did, that is to go outside and kill the criminals as they were fleeing from the crime scene? Look, no one's saying that Horn killed some good people here.

 

[Uno]

In this country, it's the same as mine or your Bill of Rights.

BS it is. You commit a crime the rights change man.