Anyone heard of the Texan who shot & killed suspects robbing his neighbor?

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Horn: "I understand that, OK, but I have a right to protect myself too, sir, and you understand that. And the laws have been changed in this country since September the First and you know it and I know it."
 

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Horn: "And a shotgun is a legal weapon, it's not an illegal weapon."
 

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Also, I'm not saying robbing is okay so don't think that's what I'm getting at. I'd be all for these guys getting the crap beat out of them down the line. That said, taking away one's life for taking some necklaces isn't a citizen's right and never will be. Simple as that. I know beating the hell out of them isn't really legal either, but it's not killing the fuckers for taking a damn TV.
 

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I'm not siding with the dead thieves by any means. It may be karma, b/c as the poster above said, you do bad shit, bad shit will happen to you. But this Horn clown clearly decided to take matters into his own hands as the punisher. Once again, the thieves were NOT robbing Horn's house but his neighbor's who Horn doesn't even know!!!! And once again, the dispatcher told him countless times to stay in his house. His neighbor's house was empty, no one was getting harmed except for their property being looted.


Where does it say the neighbors house was empty?
 

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Horn: "I understand that, OK, but I have a right to protect myself too, sir, and you understand that. And the laws have been changed in this country since September the First and you know it and I know it."

He has the right to protect himself with his shotgun. He wouldn't have needed to protect himself at all if he didn't run outside with his shotgun though. You don't have a right to run across main street with a shotgun then shoot the first person who yells at you to put it away. You can't start the confrontation for no apparent reason, then wait till someone gets pissed, then shoot him. That's not the law at all. Horn could have stayed inside and waited for the cops. Instead he chose to run outside with his gun and shoot burglary suspects despite being warned by authorities not to do so. And now he'll likely have years in jail to think about his actions.
 

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I guess I never realized the general public had the right to kill people committing crimes. If I see a jaywalker, I'm hitting that asshole. Citizens arrest.

Seriously man? The guy was told to stay inside and cops were on the way. Instead he goes out and kills guys who were burglarizing a house. He doesn't have the right to do that. The guys he shot could have been taking care of the neighbors house and locked themselves out for all he knew. Reckless. You can't kill people for committing non-violent crimes. Simple as that. Let the police do their jobs and don't try and play God.

Ridiculous statement. It was clear they weren't taking care of the house. Unless by "taking care of the house" you mean, "stealing a bunch of shit from the house." They ran across a pissed, crotchety old man's yard and got shot. This is the chance you take when you burglarize a home. Sucks for them. Is anybody else very unsurprised that the deceased were two Mexican guys with priors? I'm guessin' they weren't legal either...
 

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Ridiculous statement. It was clear they weren't taking care of the house. Unless by "taking care of the house" you mean, "stealing a bunch of shit from the house." They ran across his yard, he was a pissed, crotchety old man and shot them. This is the chance you take when you burglarize a home. Sucks for them. Is anybody else very unsurprised that the deceased were two Mexican guys with priors? I'm guessin' they weren't legal either...

It's was a ridiculous statement but it's not completely out of the realm of reality either. I've locked myself out of a friends house and crawled through the window before to get in. I'd hate for a guy to shoot me when I leave. It's obviously a stretch, but possible at the same time.
 

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I highly doubt he'll go to jail. They were on his property, dumbass.

They were in the yard. Since when does being in someone's yard give them the right to kill you?
 

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PS, the root of my argument is this...

Sure the guys who were robbing the house are assholes. No question there. They deserve to get the shit beat out of them in jail. No question.

The main theme of my posts is this...




Do you deserve to be killed for burglarizing a house?

That's a clear "NO" to me.
 
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Jake and Mindware- I ask again, if your mother were in the home would you sit there and wait for the police? You shoot someone in the legs and that only gives them time to shoot you in the head. He shoots one criminal in the legs, goes to shoot the other in the legs and before he even fires the second shot the guy who he shot in the leg would have put two rounds in his head.
 

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I guess I never realized the general public had the right to kill people committing crimes. If I see a jaywalker, I'm hitting that asshole. Citizens arrest.

Seriously man? The guy was told to stay inside and cops were on the way. Instead he goes out and kills guys who were burglarizing a house. He doesn't have the right to do that. The guys he shot could have been taking care of the neighbors house and locked themselves out for all he knew. Reckless. You can't kill people for committing non-violent crimes. Simple as that. Let the police do their jobs and don't try and play God.

I don't consider burglary non-violent. What happens if they encounter someone inside the house? Chances are it's going to get extremely violent. If you can't be safe in your own home then you can never be safe. Anyways, can someone please explain the Texas law here - state laws can vary immensely and he might this could be justified via self defense in a conservative state like Texas - in Florida, you cannot do this without facing some type of criminal consequences - anyone remember Bernard Goetz? the American hero.
 

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I'm being serious - suppose your wife was in that house sleeping when these two degenerates broke in - you'd be damn glad Mr. Horn bucked them down - crimes escalate - the next home they broke into they would have probably murdered someone inside - who knows how many innocent people are alive because of this?


Seymour, i wouldn't tie hypothetical questions like that to this case. The world is full of what if's and more what if's. Sure, maybe if these thieves got away then the in the next house there might be girls there who gets raped or killed by them. Or maybe not, b/c although they're thieves, they might not be rapists or killers. Do you know? Do I know? Did Horn know before he went out there and decided to be the judge jury and executioner?

If you like filling your world up with "what if's" then why don't YOU go out there and do some vigilante justice yourself? Go and kill you some pimps and robbers and gang-bangers in your town. After all, you'd be making your whole town a safer place, no?
 

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Jake and Mindware- I ask again, if your mother were in the home would you sit there and wait for the police? You shoot someone in the legs and that only gives them time to shoot you in the head. He shoots one criminal in the legs, goes to shoot the other in the legs and before he even fires the second shot the guy who he shot in the leg would have put two rounds in his head.

Big difference between your mom's house when she is home and the neighbor's house whom you don't know which appears to be empty...
 
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Best guess is here that he pleads to something and loses right to possess a gun and gets some form of probation....

Old bastard wont like it, but will have no choice but to swallow it.
 

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Jake and Mindware- I ask again, if your mother were in the home would you sit there and wait for the police? You shoot someone in the legs and that only gives them time to shoot you in the head. He shoots one criminal in the legs, goes to shoot the other in the legs and before he even fires the second shot the guy who he shot in the leg would have put two rounds in his head.

Your mother or a family member you love and a neighbor who you don't even know are two different stories my friend
 

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PS, the root of my argument is this...
Do you deserve to be killed for burglarizing a house?quote]

If you're 30 years old and breaking into people's homes - I think it's just best if you go away for good.



Best point in this thread. Think about it, what are this shits contributing in the near future. The next time they broke into a home who knows what may have happened.
 

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