Here's the answer to your question wabashwonders:
Zimmerman was on a neighborhood watch. Do you know what that means? It means that his job was to watch out for suspicious people in his neighborhood. If it was your neighborhood and if your mother was one of the several people who had been recently broken into you'd be damned glad that he was there and willing to try to ascertain what anyone he deemed suspicious was doing there. I must say that because several fools in this thread want to make Zimmerman into a bad guy for volunteering to that very important, and dare I say, dangerous work. HE IS NOT A BAD GUY FOR TAKING ON THAT JOB. HE IS A GOOD GUY and I'm sure all but the bad guys in his neighborhood are glad he's out there.
Now what qualified someone as "suspicious" to Zimmerman? We don't know. But if he is not a loon anyone in that neighborhood is happy to trust his judgement because he is watching out for his neighborhood's best interests. Now, whereas we don't know how exactly Zimmerman defined suspicious, we can guess at the kind of person he might assign that label to.
So9 I'm gonna give you a list of people who might have been walking in the neighborhood and let you decide who you might deem suspicious had you been Zimmerman. You can color any of these people white, black, or olive skinned.
-a middle aged priest in black wearing his "collar"
-a young woman with a kid in a stroller and another toddler walking by her side
-a greasy mechanic who Zim recognizes as a guy who comes into the neighborhood to help people with their cars
-a "punk" teenage girl floating along lost in the music from her buds
-a young guy in a hoodie that Zim doesn't recognize
-a guy in a suit and tie carrying a briefcase
-an old lady toting a pull cart with a bag of groceries
I think I've made my point. There's your answer.
Zimmerman was on a neighborhood watch. Do you know what that means? It means that his job was to watch out for suspicious people in his neighborhood. If it was your neighborhood and if your mother was one of the several people who had been recently broken into you'd be damned glad that he was there and willing to try to ascertain what anyone he deemed suspicious was doing there. I must say that because several fools in this thread want to make Zimmerman into a bad guy for volunteering to that very important, and dare I say, dangerous work. HE IS NOT A BAD GUY FOR TAKING ON THAT JOB. HE IS A GOOD GUY and I'm sure all but the bad guys in his neighborhood are glad he's out there.
Now what qualified someone as "suspicious" to Zimmerman? We don't know. But if he is not a loon anyone in that neighborhood is happy to trust his judgement because he is watching out for his neighborhood's best interests. Now, whereas we don't know how exactly Zimmerman defined suspicious, we can guess at the kind of person he might assign that label to.
So9 I'm gonna give you a list of people who might have been walking in the neighborhood and let you decide who you might deem suspicious had you been Zimmerman. You can color any of these people white, black, or olive skinned.
-a middle aged priest in black wearing his "collar"
-a young woman with a kid in a stroller and another toddler walking by her side
-a greasy mechanic who Zim recognizes as a guy who comes into the neighborhood to help people with their cars
-a "punk" teenage girl floating along lost in the music from her buds
-a young guy in a hoodie that Zim doesn't recognize
-a guy in a suit and tie carrying a briefcase
-an old lady toting a pull cart with a bag of groceries
I think I've made my point. There's your answer.
Do you have any idea what a reasonable assumption is? How many stupid, idiotic threads do you have about obama's BC being fake? How many idiotic statements do you have questioning if he was born here? People can make a reasonable assumption of your thoughts without you actually spelling it out.....you're a human spin machine.
I don't know about you, but if i see any of these people simply walking down the street I would not consider any of them suspicious. At least not enough to call the cops and then pursue the person on foot when I supposedly am driving a vehicle that says "neighborhood watch" on the side. You stress the fact that Zimmerman was on neighborhood watch. I ask you, Do YOU know what that means? It means to observe and report to the police any suspicious persons or activty. PERIOD, thats it, nothing more, nothing less. If Zimmerman was on neighborhood watch at the time, why did he not simply drive up next to Martin in his "labeled" car and ask Martin who he was or what he was doing? That is what a neighborhood watch should do. If Martin gave a smart response or ignored him(Like Russ thinks he did) then Zimmerman should have then called the cops and waited until they arrived. That my friend is what a neighborhood watch is supposed to do. They are not supposed to confront someone. They are suppose to notify authorities and let them do their job. Any more neighborhood watch questions you want answered?
White house BC was fake? Fact? Some looney tune website says so and that makes it fact. Just like your navy seal book thread was fact huh?How many times over the past year have we been back and forth on the BC? You have always been a birther FACT. ...just like dave 007...you know you're a loon when you agree with that wackjob. FACT
Actually I'm not a birther, and in the thread I started, I said so.
So, yet get proven to be a pathological liar twice by me within 30 minutes.
What's it like going through life knowing deep down in your soul that you are a piece of shit pathological liar?
On a side note, how much do you want to wager on the Celtics/Sixers series?
Of course I don't know what happened. I threw out 4 scenarios two pages ago as to what could've happened. I have no clue and neither does anyone else.
Posters on here are always adding stuff to posts to suit their own agendas. I never said I know anything about what happened that night except for the fact that Zimmerman followed Martin, a verbal confrontation ensured, a physical confrontation followed, Zimmerman was beat up and Martin was shot. That's what we know. The rest if for a jury to decide.
I have no clue what made Martin look suspicious and I don't care. There is nothing that says you can't walk up to someone.
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong.
He instigated the crime? He instigated what crime? He walked up to a kid on the street. Is that really a crime?
It matters how bad he was injured because if he felt his life was in danger of serious bodily injury or death, he has the right to defend himself. Case closed.
I simply, can't for the life of me, figure out why you guys think it's a problem, crime or immoral to walk up to a guy in the neighborhood and ask him what he's doing. Am I missing something?
How is approaching a guy in your neighborhood instigating a physical confrontation, racist or illegal?
Fact: Martin's autopsy shows his knuckles are busted up.
Fact: Zimmerman had two black eyes, a broken nose and a busted up skull.
Fact: A BLACK witness claimed Martin was on Zimmerman and Zimmerman was calling out for help.
Not saying what happened but isn't it pretty clear?
How is approaching a guy in your neighborhood instigating a physical confrontation, racist or illegal?
Fact: Martin's autopsy shows his knuckles are busted up.
Fact: Zimmerman had two black eyes, a broken nose and a busted up skull.
Fact: A BLACK witness claimed Martin was on Zimmerman and Zimmerman was calling out for help.
Not saying what happened but isn't it pretty clear?
Excerpt from the autopsy report released today:
"The autopsy says medical examiners found THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana, when they tested Martin's blood and urine. A police report shows Martin had been shot once in the chest and had been pronounced dead at the scene.
Also in the package is a photo of suspect George Zimmerman with a bloody nose taken the night of the fight. A paramedic report says Zimmerman had a 1-inch (2.5-centimeter) laceration on his head and forehead abrasion.
"Bleeding tenderness to his nose, and a small laceration to the back of his head. All injuries have minor bleeding," paramedic Michael Brandy wrote about Zimmerman's injuries in the report."
"The autopsy says medical examiners found THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana, when they tested Martin's blood and urine. A police report shows Martin had been shot once in the chest and had been pronounced dead at the scene.
Also in the package is a photo of suspect George Zimmerman with a bloody nose taken the night of the fight. A paramedic report says Zimmerman had a 1-inch (2.5-centimeter) laceration on his head and forehead abrasion.
"Bleeding tenderness to his nose, and a small laceration to the back of his head. All injuries have minor bleeding," paramedic Michael Brandy wrote about Zimmerman's injuries in the report."
Also released were witness statements (www.foxnews.com)
New witness accounts also emerged Thursday. A witness, whose name is redacted, told investigators he saw "a black male, wearing a dark colored hoodie," on top of a white or Hispanic male who was yelling for help.
The witness, who was looking out the sliding glass door at his home about 30 feet (10 meters) away, said he saw the black male throwing punches "MMA (mixed martial arts) style."
He said he told the fighters he was calling the police. He said that as he was making the call, he heard a shot. He looked outside and saw the person who had been on top laid out on the grass as if he had been shot. He said the other fighter was standing on the sidewalk, talking to another person with a flashlight.
New witness accounts also emerged Thursday. A witness, whose name is redacted, told investigators he saw "a black male, wearing a dark colored hoodie," on top of a white or Hispanic male who was yelling for help.
The witness, who was looking out the sliding glass door at his home about 30 feet (10 meters) away, said he saw the black male throwing punches "MMA (mixed martial arts) style."
He said he told the fighters he was calling the police. He said that as he was making the call, he heard a shot. He looked outside and saw the person who had been on top laid out on the grass as if he had been shot. He said the other fighter was standing on the sidewalk, talking to another person with a flashlight.
Are you saying what I said about what a neighborhood watch should do is wrong? You're the one who brought it up so you tell me what a neighborhood watch is suppose to do? If you recall the 911 operator told Zimmerman that he should not be following him. Why did she tell him that? Because neighborhood watches are not suppose to do that. And no, I did not write the rules, but I have read up on the subject enough to know what a neighborhood watch is supposed to do and what they are not suppose to do. Any more questions?
All that is clear is there was a confrontation and a fight. There is still no absolute evidence as to how it was started. You do not know who approached who and what was said. You do not know that Zimmerman merely walked up to Martin and asked him what he was doing. You do not know that this is what happened. Again, you are speculating as to what might have happened. You don't know so don't speculate and then say its pretty clear.
