All Things, Trayvon Martin / George Zimmerman

[vitterd]

The tone of your remarks to Willie make it obvious that you still blame whites, that only whites are racists, and that they pass it down from one generation from another. I guess the same holds true of idiocy which reflects directly on your lineage according to your leap of logic. Obama is not a leader. He exploits race more than any POTUS in recent history. His remarks about Professor Gates and Trayvon are undeniable proof of that. A POTUS should not inject himself into simple civil matters. Obama can't help himself and neither can you. Racism is a two way street and it is people like you that are to blame. As usual you blame everyone but yourself and those like you. How convenient. And just for the record Willie hit the nail on the head.

So you agree with willie while he bashes and blames obama? Big fucking shock.

When did I say racism doesn't exist on both sides? Of course it does. I happen to thionk al sharpton is a racist. I also think GZ following TM was race based. Sorry you cant admit that racism likes this occurs now and has for decades. For you morons to blame obama because he said if he had a son it would be Trayvon is stupid beyond words. Even your beloved Limbaugh said this case would be high profile even if obama said nothing.

Willie never hits it on the head. The guy has been swinging and missing since post #1

 

[russ1945]

So you agree with willie while he bashes and blames obama? Big fucking shock.

When did I say racism doesn't exist on both sides? Of course it does. I happen to thionk al sharpton is a racist. I also think GZ following TM was race based. Sorry you cant admit that racism likes this occurs now and has for decades. For you morons to blame obama because he said if he had a son it would be Trayvon is stupid beyond words. Even your beloved Limbaugh said this case would be high profile even if obama said nothing.

Willie never hits it on the head. The guy has been swinging and missing since post #1

No what is idiotic is Obama even saying what he said about Trayvon and you defending it. It is high profile yes but obama should have butted out, he fueled the fire as always. Look I swing at strikes and don't look for walks. All you know how to do is bunt, you haven't gotten a ball out of the infield once on this thread. You are the designated buffoon. LOL

 

[vitterd]

No what is idiotic is Obama even saying what he said about Trayvon and you defending it. It is high profile yes but obama should have butted out, he fueled the fire as always. Look I swing at strikes and don't look for walks. All you know how to do is bunt, you haven't gotten a ball out of the infield once on this thread. You are the designated buffoon. LOL

I have so many knockouts in this thread it is scary. It is because I know the facts of the case and I can also make reasonable assumptions based on common sense. You are swinging wildy and missing everything...but that is normal for you.

What's funny is if obama was asked and made no comment you would be complaining that he isn't taking a stand or position. That's how you guys operate.

Defending what? That our president can have his own opinion? Where do you guys come up with this shit.

 

[russ1945]

I have so many knockouts in this thread it is scary. It is because I know the facts of the case and I can also make reasonable assumptions based on common sense. You are swinging wildy and missing everything...but that is normal for you.

What's funny is if obama was asked and made no comment you would be complaining that he isn't taking a stand or position. That's how you guys operate.

Defending what? That our president can have his own opinion? Where do you guys come up with this shit.

Vitusky + reasonable assumptions = bullshit (not capable of reason) Again you Alinsky up by trying to present a fantasy comparison to something that actually happened. It is not a reasonable assumption that Obama cannot comment on anything except scandals which he ignores. Alinsky rule #11 "If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.". Ain't happening, this will be decided by a judge and a jury not by Vitusky. A POTUS should simply know when to make a comment or not. In the case of Professor Gates he even admitted he was commenting before he had all the facts. Nothing new for him or for you. You say you know the facts of the case, so do millions of others who don't agree with your "reasonable assumptions". Probably because they have open minds.

 

[vitterd]

Vitusky + reasonable assumptions = bullshit (not capable of reason) Again you Alinsky up by trying to present a fantasy comparison to something that actually happened. It is not a reasonable assumption that Obama cannot comment on anything except scandals which he ignores. Alinsky rule #11 "If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.". Ain't happening, this will be decided by a judge and a jury not by Vitusky. A POTUS should simply know when to make a comment or not. In the case of Professor Gates he even admitted he was commenting before he had all the facts. Nothing new for him or for you. You say you know the facts of the case, so do millions of others who don't agree with your "reasonable assumptions". Probably because they have open minds.

Do you ever become embarrassed by your own comments! Seriously, this Alinsky crap you drag out every other week is so foolsih you should hide your head in shame.

Push what negative? What the fuck are you even talking about?

We all know this will be decided by a jury. Does that mean noboody else can comment on it? Your arguments always make no sense.

 

[russ1945]

Do you ever become embarrassed by your own comments! Seriously, this Alinsky crap you drag out every other week is so foolsih you should hide your head in shame.

Push what negative? What the fuck are you even talking about?

We all know this will be decided by a jury. Does that mean noboody else can comment on it? Your arguments always make no sense.

Proving once again you don't get it and you never will. You are saying Z is guilty regardless of the verdict. It is all his fault and you use it as a negative to attempt to get a postive out of it. You really are stupid aren't you. I guess when you talk in circles all the time it gets to you after a while. Almost everyone who does not agree with you has said that no matter what gets posted on this thread what ever happens happens. When you begin to think that you know something that nobody else knows it is time for couch time. We all waste our time with you trying to communicate on your level and it is a drag after while. You should have been a witness for the prosecution you would fit right in. LOL

 

[vitterd]

Proving once again you don't get it and you never will. You are saying Z is guilty regardless of the verdict. It is all his fault and you use it as a negative to attempt to get a postive out of it. You really are stupid aren't you. I guess when you talk in circles all the time it gets to you after a while. Almost everyone who does not agree with you has said that no matter what gets posted on this thread what ever happens happens. When you begin to think that you know something that nobody else knows it is time for couch time. We all waste our time with you trying to communicate on your level and it is a drag after while. You should have been a witness for the prosecution you would fit right in. LOL

Guess what dummy. I didn't agree with the OJ verdict...does that mean I don't get to have my own opinion on the case? See the problem is that you're a known sheep and robot...so you just go with whatever is spoon fed to you from right wing media outlets.

Talk in circles? Lmao. I couldn't be more direct on hw I feel about this case and everythng else. I'm the one wasting my time with people like you. En feugo and I are having good discussions. We disagree but you can ask him...he knows that I know the facts of the case and can discuss them. You, on the other hand, are clueless about this case and everything else.

Stop using the term "we" when speaking. Only zit, willie, sooner and other right wing crazy people share your opinion. En feugo, wabash , guesser don't share your looney tune comments.

 

[russ1945]

Guess what dummy. I didn't agree with the OJ verdict...does that mean I don't get to have my own opinion on the case? See the problem is that you're a known sheep and robot...so you just go with whatever is spoon fed to you from right wing media outlets.

Talk in circles? Lmao. I couldn't be more direct on hw I feel about this case and everythng else. I'm the one wasting my time with people like you. En feugo and I are having good discussions. We disagree but you can ask him...he knows that I know the facts of the case and can discuss them. You, on the other hand, are clueless about this case and everything else.

Stop using the term "we" when speaking. Only zit, willie, sooner and other right wing crazy people share your opinion. En feugo, wabash , guesser don't share your looney tune comments.

What does that prove. Nobody agreed with the OJ verdict. That we would be us, you finally got something right. We have you pegged. I am not sure enfuego wants to be dragged into your network but whatever. We all know the facts. It is a fact that the prosecution just tried to introduce 3rd degree murder as an option at the last minute and was denied. They over charged Martin and brought charges mainly because of outside pressure. You wanted a trial, you got one, now live with it. Everything you say has nothing to do with what comes out of this. You will probably come out when all is said and done and say something like justice was not done, talk about racism, and blame the fringe. What a loser, you are already making excuses. What a loser.

As I pointed out up above the police chief lost his job because of political pressure. That pressure came from you and your fringe lefties. LOL

 

[Willie99]

this just in

the prosecution wants to jury to consider jaywalking charges, and after that, maybe domestic disturbance because the defendant was screaming loudly

typical libtard approach, throw as much shit against the wall as you can and see what sticks

if they didn't prove their case, they want a mulligan

 

[vitterd]

What does that prove. Nobody agreed with the OJ verdict. That we would be us, you finally got something right. We have you pegged. I am not sure enfuego wants to be dragged into your network but whatever. We all know the facts. It is a fact that the prosecution just tried to introduce 3rd degree murder as an option at the last minute and was denied. They over charged Martin and brought charges mainly because of outside pressure. You wanted a trial, you got one, now live with it. Everything you say has nothing to do with what comes out of this. You will probably come out when all is said and done and say something like justice was not done, talk about racism, and blame the fringe. What a loser, you are already making excuses. What a loser.

As I pointed out up above the police chief lost his job because of political pressure. That pressure came from you and your fringe lefties. LOL

Charges were brought because they were deserving. We know that a black kids death is not important to you but it is to others. I'm not dragging en feugo in....you claim to speak for eveyone all the time ...the truth is you have no clue what you're talking about and nobody wants you speaking for them.

The chief lost his job because everyone had lost confidence in him. Truth is he did a shitty job and GZ should have been arrested that night.

I will not blame anyone and I didn't ask for a trial. The trial is just...an unarmed innocent kid was shot dead. This was going to trial.

Even if GZ walks free, I will still have my opinion. It won't change because of what the jury says.

You are the biggest sheep I've ever seen. You form your opinion from bretbart, you can't do it on your own. Just a pathetic old dude.

 

[russ1945]

Charges were brought because they were deserving. We know that a black kids death is not important to you but it is to others. I'm not dragging en feugo in....you claim to speak for eveyone all the time ...the truth is you have no clue what you're talking about and nobody wants you speaking for them.

The chief lost his job because everyone had lost confidence in him. Truth is he did a shitty job and GZ should have been arrested that night.

I will not blame anyone and I didn't ask for a trial. The trial is just...an unarmed innocent kid was shot dead. This was going to trial.

Even if GZ walks free, I will still have my opinion. It won't change because of what the jury says.

You are the biggest sheep I've ever seen. You form your opinion from bretbart, you can't do it on your own. Just a pathetic old dude.

"We know that a black kids death is not important to you but it is to others." That is exactly the type of baseless remark that renders your entire arguement simply a party line. Just another day of trolling for you.

"The chief lost his job because everyone had lost confidence in him." Everybody - really, again a typical exageration on your part that has nothing to do with a reasonable assumption. Again it was poltical.

If I am a sheep I am proud of the flock I belong to. Actually it is you who is the sheep but that is another matter. You don't get it and you never will.

You did finally say something irrefutable "I will still have my opinion." No shit Sherlock.

 

[Willie99]

he George Zimmerman investigation was hijacked "in a number of ways" by outside forces, said the former police chief of Sanford, Florida.
Bill Lee, who testified Monday in Zimmerman's second-degree murder trial, told CNN's George Howell in an exclusive interview that he felt pressure from city officials to arrest Zimmerman to placate the public rather than as a matter of justice.
"It was (relayed) to me that they just wanted an arrest. They didn't care if it got dismissed later," he said. "You don't do that."
When Sanford police arrived on the scene on February 26, 2012, after Zimmerman fatally shot unarmed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, they conducted a "sound" investigation, and the evidence provided no probable cause to arrest Zimmerman at the scene, he said.
It had nothing to do with Florida's controversial "Stand Your Ground" law, he said; from an investigative standpoint, it was purely a matter of self-defense.

 

[Willie99]

in libtardville, the police chief (and other law enforcement at the scene) are incompetent or racist or liars, despite their experience and non-wavering testimony

the prosecution witnesses which changed their testimony are telling the truth and are being discredited by racism



it's an illness people, we need a pill

 

[vitterd]

"We know that a black kids death is not important to you but it is to others." That is exactly the type of baseless remark that renders your entire arguement simply a party line. Just another day of trolling for you.

"The chief lost his job because everyone had lost confidence in him." Everybody - really, again a typical exageration on your part that has nothing to do with a reasonable assumption. Again it was poltical.

If I am a sheep I am proud of the flock I belong to. Actually it is you who is the sheep but that is another matter. You don't get it and you never will.

You did finally say something irrefutable "I will still have my opinion." No shit Sherlock.

Not baseless. Your previous opinions have proven how you feel. Again...your "2 good black conservatives" comments. Saying this shouldn't be brought to trial is plain idiotic. Of course this deserves a trial.

The chief lost his job because he did a terrible job on a high profile case and the community and fellow law enforcement people lost confidence in him. And rightfully so.

I form my own opinion on what I see and hear with my own eyes and ears. You form your opinion by what you are told by like minded wackos. That makes you a sheep.

 

[vitterd]

he George Zimmerman investigation was hijacked "in a number of ways" by outside forces, said the former police chief of Sanford, Florida.
Bill Lee, who testified Monday in Zimmerman's second-degree murder trial, told CNN's George Howell in an exclusive interview that he felt pressure from city officials to arrest Zimmerman to placate the public rather than as a matter of justice.
"It was (relayed) to me that they just wanted an arrest. They didn't care if it got dismissed later," he said. "You don't do that."
When Sanford police arrived on the scene on February 26, 2012, after Zimmerman fatally shot unarmed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, they conducted a "sound" investigation, and the evidence provided no probable cause to arrest Zimmerman at the scene, he said.
It had nothing to do with Florida's controversial "Stand Your Ground" law, he said; from an investigative standpoint, it was purely a matter of self-defense.

A disguntled employee is making excuses for his poor job. Gee, that never happens.

 

[Willie99]

is the prosecution now axing for a manslaughter or a murder 3 conviction or a "FUCKING CHILD ABUSE CONVICTION" an admittance by them they didn't prove the charges they brought?

of course it is, CYA baby

 

[russ1945]

in libtardville, the police chief (and other law enforcement at the scene) are incompetent or racist or liars, despite their experience and non-wavering testimony

the prosecution witnesses which changed their testimony are telling the truth and are being discredited by racism



it's an illness people, we need a pill

I guess the police chief was not a sheep. Vitusky would have filed charges within hours because he is a sheep. I would like to point out that in none of these articles does the PC mention race. That is a libtard wedge. I think Z should do some time. If it boils down to a matter of character you can go one step further. Z started a neighborhood watch because the neightborhood had problems. A libtard labels him as a police wannabe. M was on suspension from school and not at his mothers house for that reason. His videos speak for themselves as to character. Libtards would say he was being racially profiled by the right and that everyone wears hoodies. You can't make this shit up. Z was there for all the right reasons, M was there for all the wrong reasons and in fact should not have been there were it not for the suspension.

 

[vitterd]

I guess the police chief was not a sheep. Vitusky would have filed charges within hours because he is a sheep. I would like to point out that in none of these articles does the PC mention race. That is a libtard wedge. I think Z should do some time. If it boils down to a matter of character you can go one step further. Z started a neighborhood watch because the neightborhood had problems. A libtard labels him as a police wannabe. M was on suspension from school and not at his mothers house for that reason. His videos speak for themselves as to character. Libtards would say he was being racially profiled by the right and that everyone wears hoodies. You can't make this shit up. Z was there for all the right reasons, M was there for all the wrong reasons and in fact should not have been there were it not for the suspension.

Translation---bad black kid deserves death. Suspended from school at age 17...he's just a thug.

GZ has so many lies it is insane. His story is bullshit. I didn't realize how many lies until watching prosecution closing.

Yes, I would have arrested GZ hours after...as soon as it was clear his story was a lie.

 

[wabashwonders]

"We know that a black kids death is not important to you but it is to others." That is exactly the type of baseless remark that renders your entire arguement simply a party line. Just another day of trolling for you.

"The chief lost his job because everyone had lost confidence in him." Everybody - really, again a typical exageration on your part that has nothing to do with a reasonable assumption. Again it was poltical.

If I am a sheep I am proud of the flock I belong to. Actually it is you who is the sheep but that is another matter. You don't get it and you never will.

You did finally say something irrefutable "I will still have my opinion." No shit Sherlock.

Did you ever stop to think maybe you are both sheep, just following different herds or flocks, whichever you want to call it...

 

[wabashwonders]

I guess the police chief was not a sheep. Vitusky would have filed charges within hours because he is a sheep. I would like to point out that in none of these articles does the PC mention race. That is a libtard wedge. I think Z should do some time. If it boils down to a matter of character you can go one step further. Z started a neighborhood watch because the neightborhood had problems. A libtard labels him as a police wannabe. M was on suspension from school and not at his mothers house for that reason. His videos speak for themselves as to character. Libtards would say he was being racially profiled by the right and that everyone wears hoodies. You can't make this shit up. Z was there for all the right reasons, M was there for all the wrong reasons and in fact should not have been there were it not for the suspension.

Why should he do time if you agree that he should not have been arrested?