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Not the point at all. It is illegal to shoot a kid for no reason.

He did have a reason. The kid was on top of him beating his head into the concrete. That was his reason and he was justified in doing so. If you don't want to get shot, you shouldn't physically put your hands on another person.
 

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A)We'll find out.
B)A 911 dispatcher is the voice of the police in that instance. In fact, sometimes 911 dispatchers are Police Officers, although I have no idea if that was the case here. Doesn't matter. Zimmerman was calling the police, the police representative told him to not follow anymore, and meet some policemen at a mailbox, which Zimmerman said he would. He didn't, he got out of his truck again, and killed the kid.
C)Doesn't matter how good or bad he was at MMA. He took classes for a year, He was aggressive, and frustrated.
D)You even agreed he was a liar earlier in the thread. Lied about knowing about the self defense law, lied about Martin coming out from the bushes, lied about Martin touching the gun. These are PROVEN. Therefore a juror has every right to not believe anything he says.

You are speculating that Zimmerman was non willing, based on his own words. I reject the words of a liar, and evidence shows he was aggressive and frustrated upon 1st seeing Martin.

A) Yes we will find out.
B) That's nice. A dispatcher is not the law and has zero authority to tell you to do things.
C) He was aggressive? How?
D) I never agreed he was a liar in this thread. Show me where I said that.

Lol, if you reject the words of a liar then you don't believe anything Rachel Gentile testified to right? This is comical.
 

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A) Yes we will find out.
B) That's nice. A dispatcher is not the law and has zero authority to tell you to do things.
C) He was aggressive? How?
D) I never agreed he was a liar in this thread. Show me where I said that.

Lol, if you reject the words of a liar then you don't believe anything Rachel Gentile testified to right? This is comical.

D)You're right, you didn't agree he was a liar. Others did. So what about his PROVEN lies? Explain them please. They are proven, material lies to this case. Rachel was caught lying about missing his funeral. Totally irrelevant to anything other than her making a dumb excuse. Anything else? Enlighten us. AFAIK, her phone story checked out. She's not on trial.
C)He was aggressive in his speech, frustrated about the punks and assholes getting away with things, by his own words, and aggressive in his actions with following the kid when the police told him not to, and in shooting the kid for no legally acceptable reason, since his injuries were minor, and he was not in any life threatening danger. He was losing a fistfight, that he may have started.
I agree your willingness to believe everything Zimmerman said about the incident is comical.
 

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He did have a reason. The kid was on top of him beating his head into the concrete. That was his reason and he was justified in doing so. If you don't want to get shot, you shouldn't physically put your hands on another person.

The kid was absolutely not beating his head into the concrete. No DNA under his nails. Conflicting Testimony about who was on top. Neat trick grabbing someone's head and pounding it into the concrete without any of their DNA getting under your nails.
 

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Another 1st round KO. Good job. (

Sometimes these guys don't even put their gloves up. I get told that I'm completely incorrect and wrong by a mile....and then get "it's all subjective vit" when I post the information backing up my statement. It's like that old cartoon where the guy digs a hole and just puts leaves on top and waits for the other guy to fall in.
 

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How did GZ know TM didnt have a gun too?....He didnt...

RR....get it together man. That wannabe pussy cop would have never approached TM or followed him if he thought he had a gun. This coward had gun muscles and expected this kid to be scared to death. Instead he got punched in the face and rightfully so.
 

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D)You're right, you didn't agree he was a liar. Others did. So what about his PROVEN lies? Explain them please. They are proven, material lies to this case. Rachel was caught lying about missing his funeral. Totally irrelevant to anything other than her making a dumb excuse. Anything else? Enlighten us. AFAIK, her phone story checked out. She's not on trial.
C)He was aggressive in his speech, frustrated about the punks and assholes getting away with things, by his own words, and aggressive in his actions with following the kid when the police told him not to, and in shooting the kid for no legally acceptable reason, since his injuries were minor, and he was not in any life threatening danger. He was losing a fistfight, that he may have started.
I agree your willingness to believe everything Zimmerman said about the incident is comical.

1. Rachel - a liar is a liar, she also said she wrote the testimony that she could not even read (cursive). Not a credible witness, she hurt the case, and probably been better off not calling her. But.....she was necessary because the case is so weak.
2. You are neighborhood watch because their have been breakins in the neighborhood. What in the hell do you think they watch, the dogs and cats. A guy wearing a hoodie. Sure he was frustrated when he called the dispatcher, I suppose you would just let strangers walk around your neighborhood wearing hoodies. I would probably say something even if I was not on watch. You use the word frustrated then exagerate it to agressive, not one in the same, that is an assumption that cannot be proved. You say he shot someone for no legally acceptable reason, well that is for a judge and jury to decide not you or me. Nobody on here believes everything Zimmerman said about the incident but the same goes for the prosecutions witnesses. I guess in the old west you would just hang Z and move right along. But if you did that it would not be because you were frustrated or aggressive. LOL
 

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Good point, or a knife for that matter.

Good point? Lmao. You get dumber with every post. This coward isn't gonna follow anyone if he thinks they have a weapon. Do you really believe the idiotic shit that you say? He was trying to play town hero with his gun. He played tough guy and got punched in the nose for it. Then he killed the kid. Story over.
 

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Good point? Lmao. You get dumber with every post. This coward isn't gonna follow anyone if he thinks they have a weapon. Do you really believe the idiotic shit that you say? He was trying to play town hero with his gun. He played tough guy and got punched in the nose for it. Then he killed the kid. Story over.

Explain to eveeryone on here how Zimmerman could possibly know if Martin was armed. He was acting weird because he has smoked some stuff. Are you eager to approach someone who is not where he should be and avoiding contact. You don't get it and you never will.
 

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Explain to eveeryone on here how Zimmerman could possibly know if Martin was armed. He was acting weird because he has smoked some stuff. Are you eager to approach someone who is not where he should be and avoiding contact. You don't get it and you never will.

Why do you guys ask questions that can't be answered and then try to use that as some sort of defense? If he thought martin was armed he never would have followed him and confronted him like that. Use your common sense if you have any. Acting weird? By walking down the street wih his hood up while it's raining. Yeah, what a freak.
 

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Why do you guys ask questions that can't be answered and then try to use that as some sort of defense? If he thought martin was armed he never would have followed him and confronted him like that. Use your common sense if you have any. Acting weird? By walking down the street wih his hood up while it's raining. Yeah, what a freak.

There is an obvious answer which you choose to ignore because it defeats your purpose. In fact they are not questions for that very reason. I guess Z had Xray vision and knew M was not carrying a weapon. Get real loser. I can see defending M before you knew about his personal history simply by giving him every break in the book. His past history explains his actions regarding this incident meaning he acted in character, a wanna be gang banger who felt he had a physical advantage when confronting the smaller Z. That is common sense, something your are not very familiar with.
 

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[h=1]Ex-Police Chief: 'Political Pressure' Got Me Fired over Zimmerman Case[/h]
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Former Sanford County, FL police chief Bill Lee says that he was fired from his job after not arresting George Zimmerman for the death of Trayvon Martin because of "political pressure."
 

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There is an obvious answer which you choose to ignore because it defeats your purpose. In fact they are not questions for that very reason. I guess Z had Xray vision and knew M was not carrying a weapon. Get real loser. I can see defending M before you knew about his personal history simply by giving him every break in the book. His past history explains his actions regarding this incident meaning he acted in character, a wanna be gang banger who felt he had a physical advantage when confronting the smaller Z. That is common sense, something your are not very familiar with.

Common sense tells us that GZ is not approaching "a would be gangbanger" your words, if he thought the kid was armed. You can't possibly be this stupid not to understand that. His past actions? He is a 17 year old kid who gets into fights and smokes pot. Welcome to reality.
 

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Ex-Police Chief: 'Political Pressure' Got Me Fired over Zimmerman Case


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Former Sanford County, FL police chief Bill Lee says that he was fired from his job after not arresting George Zimmerman for the death of Trayvon Martin because of "political pressure."

it's amazing how emotionally charged and politically divided this country has become over this case, and it's all because of the least prepared man in the room

it's what the vile pos brings to the table

as I've said often times, the one good thing I was thinking about Obama's election in 2008 was that racial relations would improve and the victim hood mentality would subside. Instead he creates victims, used racism, embraced race baiting tactics and generally set race relations back a full generation

just a clusterfuck in every way imaginable
 

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it's amazing how emotionally charged and politically divided this country has become over this case, and it's all because of the least prepared man in the room

it's what the vile pos brings to the table

as I've said often times, the one good thing I was thinking about Obama's election in 2008 was that racial relations would improve and the victim hood mentality would subside. Instead he creates victims, used racism, embraced race baiting tactics and generally set race relations back a full generation

just a clusterfuck in every way imaginable

Amazing that you would blame obama for the racial divide in this country. Is was no different during OJ and Rodney King trials. Racism is passed on from generations of racist people. That's the way it has been for decades and decades. You blaming obama for this is so typical of republicans....and you.
 

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Amazing that you would blame obama for the racial divide in this country. Is was no different during OJ and Rodney King trials. Racism is passed on from generations of racist people. That's the way it has been for decades and decades. You blaming obama for this is so typical of republicans....and you.

The tone of your remarks to Willie make it obvious that you still blame whites, that only whites are racists, and that they pass it down from one generation from another. I guess the same holds true of idiocy which reflects directly on your lineage according to your leap of logic. Obama is not a leader. He exploits race more than any POTUS in recent history. His remarks about Professor Gates and Trayvon are undeniable proof of that. A POTUS should not inject himself into simple civil matters. Obama can't help himself and neither can you. Racism is a two way street and it is people like you that are to blame. As usual you blame everyone but yourself and those like you. How convenient. And just for the record Willie hit the nail on the head.
 

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