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Carlos Quentin +800

Youk +5000

Other than Hamilton, these two have to be in the top 3 (maybe K-Rod).

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Carlos Quentin +800

Youk +5000

Other than Hamilton, these two have to be in the top 3 (maybe K-Rod).

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Arod was out 15 games, dont count him out, when all is said and done he could put up .330 40 Homers and 100+rbi's
 

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Arod was out 15 games, dont count him out, when all is said and done he could put up .330 40 Homers and 100+rbi's

Good point, but if Yanks don't make playoffs Hamilton's #'s would trump A-Rod and if White Sox do make playoffs, that would give Quentin the nod over A-Rod
 

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ARod is way too far behind in RBI's, no chance. Plus Yankees don't look like they'll make the playoffs.

Quentin and Morneau are the real contenders with Hamilton. I don't think Hamilton is as big a fav as the odds here suggest, in fact I don't even think he is the fav. Aside from RBI's Q and M have comparable numbers and their teams are in prime contention for the playoffs. Plus Hamilton plays in one of the best hitters ballparks. Hamilton may not be the best candidate on his team.

Good value on taking both M and Q, and throw a few bucks on Youklis to cover your bases. Works out to about +250ish, I think these two and Youklis should work out to be a favorite.
 

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Quentin is the big story in Chitown but Dye has almost as good numbers, he can be a dark horse too if Quention goes on a little cold spell
 

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Its going to be very difficult to make up 18 rbi's and the 40pt OBP difference in 40 games.
 

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Quentin: 34 HR's
Morneau: 19 HR's

Quentin: 87 R's
Morneau: 74 R's

Quentin: .977 OPS
Morneau: .898 OPS

** Baseball voters love this stat


Still a month to go, and if Twins win division that will be the trump card, but Morneau has had better years the last couple yrs.
 

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Keep in mind Quentin plays half of his games in a bandbox. Voters also might consider Morneau really has no protection.

Anywho I bet both, Quentin probably does have the better value at 8-1 but I think there's good value in both at the current numbers.

I really don't think Hamilton is as big a factor as it appears.
 

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Quentin at 8-1 is a GREAT WAGER!!

Right now if the season were to end, he would be my first choice on a very, very close call.

Again, if i were able to get 8-1 on Quentin, would wager that for the limit(up to $10,000)
 

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I really can't see anyone but Hamilton or A-Rod getting the MVP. If Hamilton doesn't get it though it's a joke. The guys numbers are sick. A-Rod would have won easily if he was healthy all year and is the only guy that possibly could catch Hamilton IMO.
 

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I really can't see anyone but Hamilton or A-Rod getting the MVP. If Hamilton doesn't get it though it's a joke. The guys numbers are sick. A-Rod would have won easily if he was healthy all year and is the only guy that possibly could catch Hamilton IMO.

There's a month and hald remaining in the season.

Hamilton, if at all, is not having that much better seaon than Quentin.........and the latter has the chance to play on a division winner, something Josh has no shot of doing.
 

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You guys also have to consider the story of Josh Hamilton. The fact that his drug comeback has been hyped to no end will help him win in the end, especially since he's leading the Rangers to at least a chance at the playoffs, something nobody could have dreamed of. Even if Quentin gets close to Hamilton, Josh will win easily because of his story. Carlos woud have to have an absolutely unbelievable end to the season for him to win, and he'd have to hope that Hamilton goes into a major drought. The fact that TB chose to walk him with the bases juice and give him an RBI shows me that he has already scared teams and he won't stop driving runs in, especially in Arlington.

No way would anyone ever walk Quentin intentionally with the bases loaded.
 

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I agree that Hamilton probably wins it because of his story. However, at 8-1 Quentin has value no doubt. You could package these bets together and get over 4-1 with very little to worry about.
 

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You guys also have to consider the story of Josh Hamilton. The fact that his drug comeback has been hyped to no end will help him win in the end, especially since he's leading the Rangers to at least a chance at the playoffs, something nobody could have dreamed of. Even if Quentin gets close to Hamilton, Josh will win easily because of his story. Carlos woud have to have an absolutely unbelievable end to the season for him to win, and he'd have to hope that Hamilton goes into a major drought. The fact that TB chose to walk him with the bases juice and give him an RBI shows me that he has already scared teams and he won't stop driving runs in, especially in Arlington.

No way would anyone ever walk Quentin intentionally with the bases loaded.


Seriously, your posts are getting downright scary.

The Rangers are 64-65 and 15.5 games out of first place, and even 10 games out of the wild card to two teams.

They are all but eliminated from the playoff race........in mid-August no less.

How you think Josh is such an overwhelming favorite to win the award is beyond commonsense thinking........a favorite, MAYBE, but there are many out there, myself included, that don't even make him that at the present time.

I do make him a very, very, very close second to Quin at this time though, and he may very well win the award.........but your giving him way to much credit, and the contenders not enough.


:think2::think2:
 

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If Hamilton doesn't get it though it's a joke. The guys numbers are sick.


Compared to Quentin he has 19 more RBI's. Besides that Quentin has 7 more runs scored, 6 more HR's, 26 pt higher OBP, higher slugging percentage etc.

Don't see the the big difference. And when you factor in the winning team bit there's really no edge at all.
 

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Seriously, your posts are getting downright scary.

The Rangers are 64-65 and 15.5 games out of first place, and even 10 games out of the wild card to two teams.

They are all but eliminated from the playoff race........in mid-August no less.

How you think Josh is such an overwhelming favorite to win the award is beyond commonsense thinking........a favorite, MAYBE, but there are many out there, myself included, that don't even make him that at the present time.

I do make him a very, very, very close second to Quin at this time though, and he may very well win the award.........but your giving him way to much credit, and the contenders not enough.


:think2::think2:


That's still a chance though and way better than anyone expected from them. Do I think they will be close to a playoff spot? No, they shouldn't even really be close by the end, but Hamilton gave them hope of possibly making a run and that counts towards something. I don't know for sure, but Hamilton has a better BA by 12 points, 19 more RBI's, only 7 less R's (he doesn't have Dye, Thome and Konerko hitting behind him), only 6 less HR's and 2 more SB's. He also plays great defense and has an amazing story (this counts for a lot).

I'd give anyone even odds on who wins MVP, Quentin or Hamilton, with me taking Josh.

Quentin is having a great year, but I just can't see him winning MVP.
 

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Unless Hamilton gets struck with a bolt of lightning and misses the rest of the year there is no way he's not winning the MVP, a wager on aybody else, no matter how tempting the odds is money down the toilet.
 

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Unless Hamilton gets struck with a bolt of lightning and misses the rest of the year there is no way he's not winning the MVP, a wager on aybody else, no matter how tempting the odds is money down the toilet.

C'mon.....to say Quentin has no shot is ludicrous. He could very easily end up with numbers like this:

Avg .300
HR 45
RBI 130

If the White Sox win the division and his numbers are similar to the above, then he wins it unless Hamilton plays out of his mind.
 

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