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SportSavant said:
i dont doubt that Pancho is an experienced gambler,

but it is unfortunate that he is not much of a contributer on the forums!!!

one of those guys who claims to know everything, but rarely shares anything, (or when he does share something it is in a be-littling fashion)

a shame I say.

Im not Peter Pan Savant.:toast:
 

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SportSavant said:
i dont doubt that Pancho is an experienced gambler,

but it is unfortunate that he is not much of a contributer on the forums!!!

one of those guys who claims to know everything, but rarely shares anything, (or when he does share something it is in a be-littling fashion)

a shame I say.


oh, I get it

someone like Pancho is supposed to do all the work and then post it here so 30,000 lurkers all have it, now making it absolutely wortless

great way to kill an edge
 

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drunkguy said:
oh, I get it

someone like Pancho is supposed to do all the work and then post it here so 30,000 lurkers all have it, now making it absolutely wortless

great way to kill an edge

Then what shold we discuss if everything will kill an edge? if you post an analysis of a game, someone might take that and apply it to other games, and your methods were just exposed to others, thereby taking away your edge. Don't say anything useful in forums b/c there goes the edge. Just call theories horseshit...Go RX! :lolBIG:
 

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Pancho Sanza said:
What do you wanna bet again? Sounds like a lot of back peddling to me.:finger23:

I told you what the bet is. Are you just dumb or is this the new method you're using to get out of the bet?

You wrote:
"As far as him asking me to post facts/statistics, I didn't see any from him.

Trust me he doesn't have em because if he did, he wouldn't have made his silly statement."
The bet is that I do have the stats. The wager is for whatever you choose to make it. Now that we are back onto the original accusation, are you going to change the subject again?
 

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Now if someone is new to gambling, I will STILL tell him to never lay more than a FG in the NFL.

Does that mean I won't lay 6 or 8 points? No

... but it gets him to stop thinking that the "the better team will clobber the other team". It helps in changing his midset. Same thing with me saying to never play a worse line.

Shrink once wrote than any new gambler should play twice as many unders and overs and twice as many dogs as favorites. Does that mean we should too? No - but it does give the guy a starting point.

Now can you stop changing the subject? Are you going to make the bet or are you going to run off with your tail between your legs, Pancho? and before you ask me again, the bet is that I have the stats!!!!!!!!
 

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Pancho Sanza said:
You want me to bet you that you have data?

data on what?

what a fucknut.:pucking:

YEAH - that is what you accused me of not having and that is what you have been trying to weasel out of. You made a good effort, but the proof is in the pudding.

Either you;re dumb

...or you just dont have the balls, so from now on, I will refer to you as SHE

I think you are the type of girl who talks the talk, but can't walk the walk, Sweetie.
 

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cincy_ said:
NEVER take a line is worse than what you would have received before the game.

For example,

The Bulls are a 5 point favorite over the Hawks. The Bulls are down by 3 at HT. The halftime line is Bulls -3.5 so they now have to to win the game by 1 point.

At this point, you can't take the Hawks because you would have them at +0.5 instead of the +5 that you would have received before the game.

You either take the Bulls or you pass.
Is that what you have stats on? You said NEVER remember?

For the 38th time, lay out the parameters of the bet stupid.
 

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I have the stats that say that wagering for a team to cover both halfs is less than 50% and that is essentially what we are debating here - because that is what gives you a worse line in the 2nd half - since you would be taking a team that covered the first half if you're going to get a worse overall line. I hope that is not too hard for you to understand

Are you going to weasel out of this one too, Ms Pancho? I guess you'll just act like you don't understand the reasoning or something.
 

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cincy_ said:
I have the stats that say that wagering for a team to cover both halfs is less than 50% and that is essentially what we are debating here - because that is what gives you a worse line in the 2nd half - since you would be taking a team that covered the first half if you're going to get a worse overall line. I hope that is not too hard for you to understand

Are you going to weasel out of this one too, Ms Pancho? I guess you'll just act like you don't understand the reasoning or something.

Thats far different from what you originally said, when you said NEVER.

If you had said that in the first place, I would never have made the horseshit comment.

Which book are you taking opening/closing lines from on that and over which seasons, I still may be willing to bet you because intuition tells me the team covering the first half probably covers the 2nd half more often than not.

And if the bet is anything less than $5000, dont waste my time.
 

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Pancho Sanza said:
Thats far different from what you originally said, when you said NEVER.

If you had said that in the first place, I would never have made the horseshit comment.

Which book are you taking opening/closing lines from on that and over which seasons, I still may be willing to bet you because intuition tells me the team covering the first half probably covers the 2nd half more often than not.

And if the bet is anything less than $5000, dont waste my time.

Case closed, Ms. Pancho. You really don't have the balls, as far as I am concerned.

The $5,000 comment and all the details that you want to get into is enough for me to know that if I try to advance this further, you'll wait until the last minute and come up with something again ad say "if you had said that in the 1st place".

Now you're talking about INTUITION???
 

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You must not understand English.

I said I may be willing to bet you on your second point, where you

I have data too son, tell me which seasons you base this theory (your 2nd one) and which books you are grabbing lines from and I will post up the $5000.

We can get pinnacle or Olympic to hold it.
 

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Pancho Sanza said:
You must not understand English.

YAWN.

Ms. Pancho, you need to stop the weaseling.

I would not post a challenge like this with anyone but you, ma'am. You try to degrade people and you act like a know-it-all and then you turn out to be a fraud. In Southie (which is South Boston) we have a phrase for a person like you:

ALL GAS AND NO EXPLOSION

PS: I will not reply any further post and will not even read this thread anymore.
 

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parlayin said:
Then what shold we discuss if everything will kill an edge? if you post an analysis of a game, someone might take that and apply it to other games, and your methods were just exposed to others, thereby taking away your edge. Don't say anything useful in forums b/c there goes the edge. Just call theories horseshit...Go RX! :lolBIG:

not to interrupt the little love-fest going on here,

but 99.99% of people on these sites have absolutely zero to offer. Most people's "methods" can't be exposed because they don't even know if what they are doing is long-term profitable

there has been a thread all day on the front page about how often do underdogs cover in bowl games

I am not even at home and was able to find the answer in 30 seconds (and posted it)


now if no one at the RX can come up with a simple ATS record after a post has been up 6 hours, how are they going to be able to repay a post which might represent weeks of work collecting data and analyzing it?

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The bigheads are out in full force in this thread...

Drunkguy, if 99.99 % have nothing to offer why do you read the forums, surely you could do something more productive?

thanks in advance
 

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You should go into Politics Cincy puss, that was the best waffling, weaseling job I have seen in a while.

The offer still stands, you can take 5k of my money if you wanna bet.

I see 2 problems though, 1 is you got no sack and the other is your full of crap.:howdy:
 

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Journeyman said:
The bigheads are out in full force in this thread...

Drunkguy, if 99.99 % have nothing to offer why do you read the forums, surely you could do something more productive?

thanks in advance

1. keep up on new books and industry news. Helps me keep from being stiffed

2. general entertainment

3. The occassional nugget of good information

anyway, anyone want to go answer the guy's question about underdogs covering? I see no one could give him a better answer than me, thread now at 10 hours on the front page

:103631605
 

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