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Looks like some great value on what i consider to be a 5-/50 coin flip, and definite reds advantage if hill's curve isnt breaking.

Ive seen threads with wind blowing out on the board....and I recall betting a sd padres game earlier in the year vs hill, and curve was not breaking, and the padres (of all teams) hit 5 balls to the track or out in the 1st inning and hill e scaped only giving up 2, yet was only a matter of time be4 he got shelled.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playbyplay?gameId=270617116&full=null&date=null&refresh=null

no lie, homer, and 3 balls hit to the ivy were the 3 outs, and gonzalez double which hit the ivy......the padres put up 5 in the first 4 innings and chased hill.

<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 border=0><TBODY><TR class=stathead style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #555555"><TD align=middle colSpan=3>Today's Lineups</TD></TR><TR class=colhead><TD width="10%">NO.</TD><TD width="45%">CINCINNATI</TD><TD width="45%">CHICAGO</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>1.</TD><TD>N. Hopper, CF</TD><TD>A. Soriano, LF</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>2.</TD><TD>J. Keppinger, SS</TD><TD>R. Theriot, SS</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>3.</TD><TD>K. Griffey Jr., RF</TD><TD>D. Lee, 1B</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>4.</TD><TD>B. Phillips, 2B</TD><TD>A. Ramirez, 3B</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>5.</TD><TD>A. Dunn, LF</TD><TD>C. Floyd, RF</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>6.</TD><TD>E. Encarnacion, 3B</TD><TD>M. DeRosa, 2B</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>7.</TD><TD>J. Cantu, 1B</TD><TD>J. Jones, CF</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>8.</TD><TD>D. Ross, C</TD><TD>J. Kendall, C</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>9.</TD><TD>B. Arroyo, P</TD><TD>R. Hill, </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


granted this was in june, but i think 67% of the public being on this game indicates people see this as a "must win" for cubs, and i actually like to bet against these kinds of scenarios. hill has a good record against both divisional opponents, and in his 2 starts wigth reds this year, 1.5 era....

Im simply going to bet on the team that i feel has the better pitcher going (arroyo), and in this case, the hotter bats. To be honest, dunn is the 1 guy id like to s ee out of the lineup, his undisciplined ass stands about as good a chance as floyd does hitting arroyos curve.



wsex has this line -140/130, im gonna jump be4 sportsbook lowers it also
 

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Looks like some great value on what i consider to be a 5-/50 coin flip, and definite reds advantage if hill's curve isnt breaking.

Ive seen threads with wind blowing out on the board....and I recall betting a sd padres game earlier in the year vs hill, and curve was not breaking, and the padres (of all teams) hit 5 balls to the track or out in the 1st inning and hill e scaped only giving up 2, yet was only a matter of time be4 he got shelled.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playbyplay?gameId=270617116&full=null&date=null&refresh=null

no lie, homer, and 3 balls hit to the ivy were the 3 outs, and gonzalez double which hit the ivy......the padres put up 5 in the first 4 innings and chased hill.

<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 border=0><TBODY><TR class=stathead style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #555555"><TD align=middle colSpan=3>Today's Lineups</TD></TR><TR class=colhead><TD width="10%">NO.</TD><TD width="45%">CINCINNATI</TD><TD width="45%">CHICAGO</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>1.</TD><TD>N. Hopper, CF</TD><TD>A. Soriano, LF</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>2.</TD><TD>J. Keppinger, SS</TD><TD>R. Theriot, SS</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>3.</TD><TD>K. Griffey Jr., RF</TD><TD>D. Lee, 1B</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>4.</TD><TD>B. Phillips, 2B</TD><TD>A. Ramirez, 3B</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>5.</TD><TD>A. Dunn, LF</TD><TD>C. Floyd, RF</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>6.</TD><TD>E. Encarnacion, 3B</TD><TD>M. DeRosa, 2B</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>7.</TD><TD>J. Cantu, 1B</TD><TD>J. Jones, CF</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>8.</TD><TD>D. Ross, C</TD><TD>J. Kendall, C</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>9.</TD><TD>B. Arroyo, P</TD><TD>R. Hill, </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


granted this was in june, but i think 67% of the public being on this game indicates people see this as a "must win" for cubs, and i actually like to bet against these kinds of scenarios. hill has a good record against both divisional opponents, and in his 2 starts wigth reds this year, 1.5 era....

Im simply going to bet on the team that i feel has the better pitcher going (arroyo), and in this case, the hotter bats. To be honest, dunn is the 1 guy id like to s ee out of the lineup, his undisciplined ass stands about as good a chance as floyd does hitting arroyos curve.



wsex has this line -140/130, im gonna jump be4 sportsbook lowers it also

Thank's for the play (Cinn)

Boston looks like a trap ?
 

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i made boston my best bet for the contest....wakefield is never a trap...he simply isnt that good....i cldnt bet it becs sportsbook.com been off again/on again for last hour
 

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also..fyi...id love to bet my phils tonight...but something seems off -137.....i cant bet them against 1-9 stl. but howard is from stl, and hits like 400 at busch...

in addition "Jimmy Rollins and Chase Utley have hurt St. Louis more this year. Rollins is hitting .429 (12-for-28) with eight runs and six RBIs while Utley is batting .464 (13-for-28) with eight RBIs."

its astounding...but i have bad feeling...hopefully my phils win.

i may be betting pirates later as wishful thinking/rooting.....hoping for a sd loss...not sure yet
 

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twins -120...kubel hitting in front of mauer = success for twins.

mauer, hunter, morneau, cuddyer, = excellent value against rookie coming off his worse start with twins in midst of losing streak. Heres why i like it, volquez is righty and most of twins awesome hitters r lefties. When he struggles its with control, and twins best hitters, and even their not so good, are all disciplined hitters lookin to walk and steal bases and play small ball.

Edinson Volquez (2-1, 4.24) looks to rebound from the worst of his three starts this season for Texas. The right-hander was reached for five runs and seven hits in six innings Wednesday in a 5-1 loss at Detroit.

He walked four and struck out a career-high six after giving up only three runs over 11 innings in his first two starts.


<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 border=0><TBODY><TR class=stathead style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #555555"><TD align=middle colSpan=3>Today's Lineups</TD></TR><TR class=colhead><TD width="10%">NO.</TD><TD width="45%">TEXAS</TD><TD width="45%">MINNESOTA</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>1.</TD><TD>F. Catalanotto, DH</TD><TD>J. Bartlett, SS</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>2.</TD><TD>D. Murphy, CF</TD><TD>J. Kubel, DH</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>3.</TD><TD>M. Young, SS</TD><TD>J. Mauer, C</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>4.</TD><TD>M. Byrd, RF</TD><TD>T. Hunter, CF</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>5.</TD><TD>J. Botts, LF</TD><TD>J. Morneau, 1B</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>6.</TD><TD>B. Wilkerson, 1B</TD><TD>M. Cuddyer, RF</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>7.</TD><TD>G. Quiroz, C</TD><TD>G. Jones, LF</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>8.</TD><TD>R. Vazquez, 2B</TD><TD>B. Buscher, 3B</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>9.</TD><TD>T. Metcalf, 3B</TD><TD>N. Punto, 2B</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


<TABLE id=pendingWager cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=headerBG colSpan=2>1) BET ID=219532796 </TD></TR><TR><TD class=pending><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD width=220>Straight Wager</TD><TD>09/17/07 20:00 ET</TD></TR><TR><TD width=220>bet 600.00 to win 500.00 </TD><TD>Result: Pending</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=pendingAltColor colSpan=2><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD width=220>Rangers(Texas) Volquez
Twins(Minnesota) Slowey </TD><TD>09/17/07(20:10 ET)
Twins(Minnesota) -120 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

<TABLE id=pendingWager cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=headerBG colSpan=2>2) BET ID=219521133 </TD></TR><TR><TD class=pending><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD width=220>Straight Wager</TD><TD>09/17/07 19:23 ET</TD></TR><TR><TD width=220>bet 700.00 to win 924.00 </TD><TD>Result: Pending</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=pendingAltColor colSpan=2><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD width=220>Reds(Cincinnati) Arroyo
Cubs(Chicago) Hill </TD><TD>09/17/07(20:05 ET)
Reds(Cincinnati) +132 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>​
 

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also..fyi...id love to bet my phils tonight...but something seems off -137.....i cant bet them against 1-9 stl. but howard is from stl, and hits like 400 at busch...

in addition "Jimmy Rollins and Chase Utley have hurt St. Louis more this year. Rollins is hitting .429 (12-for-28) with eight runs and six RBIs while Utley is batting .464 (13-for-28) with eight RBIs."

its astounding...but i have bad feeling...hopefully my phils win.

i may be betting pirates later as wishful thinking/rooting.....hoping for a sd loss...not sure yet

Yea...the Cardinals are a coin flip the way they've been playing...
Pitching has hurt them (no descent starters)

Hope you win your Boston play !!!!
 

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Straight Wager 09/17/07 20:06 ET
bet 420.00 to win 400.00 Result: Pending

WhiteSox(Chicago) Vazquez
Royals(KansasCity) Davies 09/17/07(20:10 ET)
Over 9 (-105)
 

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reds get a triple with 1 out, and griffey k's with runner on 3rd 1 out....rip off...

hills curve looks ok for now. k's phillis to end 1st inning
 

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arroyos gtes ramirez to k lookin then floyd pops out after cubs get 1st and 3rd with 1 out...
 

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