You wanna talk about sucker bets!!!!!......or is it

[thekeyman]

lets try and figure out this KC/PITT game,..the game is at pitt and yet the line is only -3,....granted KC has a decent defense but pitt has the top offense.pitt is on somewhat of a nice roll the last few weeks and the chiefs just broke a 3 game slide.KC is 3-4 on the road,PITT is 4-2 at home,running back charles is banged up for KC after a concussion last week.

PITT runs the ball fairly well with bell carrying the ball,KC is 27th against the run giving up 132 yds a game.now KC can only run the ball gaining 126 yds a game and PITT on defense gives up 103 yds a game ranking 11th.KC is STILL the only team without a wide receiver TD catch this year and its week 16,their QB has not thrown for 300 yds yet this season,but mind you he don't turn it over either.

so with a banged up charle's,a limited offense,being on the road,why are the CHIEFS only a 3 point dog.maybe all the big guns are waiting for game time to unload,maybe not too.even the public is 54% on the CHIEFS,so what gives here,really and im a CHIEFS FAN and i cannot figure it out.i guess that's why i don't bet too much nfl games,they are to shady.

one last thing,yes the CHIEFS control their own destiny for making the playoffs and this is the game that they must win to have that chance,so what's with the oddsmakers minds,whats with the big bettors minds,and whats with the public intake,well its going to be interesting to see on sunday morning what is really taking place here.

whats everybody elses view on this game,please share your thoughts as i have not been this inquisitive about a game like this in a long time.

 

[Cantpickem]

line opened at -3.5 which was more than likely a good number. Early $$ with 4 min had the books wondering about this number.
POINT SPREADS

TIME

KC

PIT

12/18 01:10 PM	+3 -115	-3 -105
12/18 07:54 AM	+3 -108	-3 -112
12/17 03:05 PM	+3 -110	-3 -110
12/17 03:04 PM	+3 -105	-3 -115
12/15 12:34 PM	+3 -110	-3 -110
12/15 07:32 AM	+3 +100	-3 -120
12/14 06:47 PM	+3½ -120	-3½ +100
12/14 06:44 PM	+3½ -115	-3½ -105
12/14 06:40 PM	+3½ -110	-3½ -110

 

[cashducats]

i like the chiefs for these reasons:
1. can never trust rothlisberger as a favorite
2. steelers d is not good
3. pitt has lost to some bad/mediocre teams at home (saints, bucs)
4. pitt is one of, if not america's team
5.reid over tomlin in the coaching dept
6. pitt is a team that had to come back and barely beat tenn, and lost to jets, kc also lost to ten but in week 1
7. havent added it up but looks like kc has played tougher schedule


7.

 

[phlew]

being a steelers fan from pittsburgh I think the line is low because the steelers play down to there competition. They have lost to some bad teams this year...and when we do win we usually don't blow teams out. Our Defense is at best average.... however I do think we win the game by 10. Our biggest weakness is giving up big plays in the passing game. Alex Smith hasn't thrown a td this year...hell i don't know if he is capable of throwing the ball farther than 30 yds downfield. should be close game though... I think its gonna come down to whether or not KC scores a backdoor TD at the end to cover or not. I for one am staying away from this game.

 

[Greenbacks]

i like the chiefs for these reasons:
1. can never trust rothlisberger as a favorite
2. steelers d is not good
3. pitt has lost to some bad/mediocre teams at home (saints, bucs)
4. pitt is one of, if not america's team
5.reid over tomlin in the coaching dept
6. pitt is a team that had to come back and barely beat tenn, and lost to jets, kc also lost to ten but in week 1
7. havent added it up but looks like kc has played tougher schedule


7.

pitt is a team that had to come back and barely beat tenn, and lost to jets, kc also lost to ten but in week 1

I actually like the Chiefs.....You say that the Steelers lost to the Jets.

You forgot to mention the Chiefs lost to the Raiders...LOL

Like i said i`m on the Chiefs.

Good luck!

 

[Scott602]

Todd Haley if I'm not mistaking is horrible against the Chiefs. Which I can't figure out but...

 

[Kaveman]

They rate out pretty equal and the -3 is correct IMO. Both have been inconsistent amid flashes of good and bad.

 

[TheComputerGroup]

Steelers are 2-10 ATS as a fav of less than 7 pts in their 1st of back to back home games.......


Steelers are 0-3 ATS past 3 vs Chiefs........


Andy Reid is 17-5 ATS as a road dog off a SU & ATS win vs a .500 or better opponent........


The trends favor the Chiefs, that's why the Steelers are -3.......among other things & I still like Pitt!

 

[Biz]

Power rating difference is 4, line is 3. Nothing out of line here, the line is accurate.

 

[thekeyman]

being a steelers fan from pittsburgh I think the line is low because the steelers play down to there competition. They have lost to some bad teams this year...and when we do win we usually don't blow teams out. Our Defense is at best average.... however I do think we win the game by 10. Our biggest weakness is giving up big plays in the passing game. Alex Smith hasn't thrown a td this year...hell i don't know if he is capable of throwing the ball farther than 30 yds downfield. should be close game though... I think its gonna come down to whether or not KC scores a backdoor TD at the end to cover or not. I for one am staying away from this game.

just making sure im reading this right,you are saying the chiefs are a bad team?....correct

also are you serious that alex smith can't throw the ball over 30 yards,......your post is like a newspaper comic

then you say your defense is average,...and you believe they will win by 10,....then you say it should be close but maybe a backdoor TD for a cover,......i don't think you really know what your saying,if their going to win by 10 then a backdoor TD would be a push providing the line stays at -3,....and you call KC a mediocre team,well lets see,they have lost from the pre-season some of their most productive players to injury who mostly are on defense,then weeks later trade flowers to san diego,and have no TD's by a wideout and no 300 yard passing game from their QB who just might manage one of the best games on the field without turning it over .........IF which is a big word in a lot of senses,if the chiefs had their team that they planned on having on the field this year,this would not even be this much of a question,in fact they probably would be favored if they had a complete team,so for your mediocre submission about them id say they are doing one hell of a job even being in the playoff picture due to all they have gone through this year,.....this team should have maybe a 5 win season from the outlook at the start of the season,yet they pull together and come off with a 8-6 record and possibably making the playoffs,..something i would have never thought

 

[thekeyman]

The Pittsburgh Steelers andKansas City Chiefs are in the hunt for playoff spots



Following a pair of wins over other teams vying for postseason berths, the Steelers attempt to continue riding the NFL's best offense while trying to solve the Chiefs' stingy defense Sunday at Heinz Field.
Pittsburgh (9-5) enters Week 16 in a wild-card spot, and tied with Baltimore for second in the AFC Central, one-half game behind first-place Cincinnati.
While the Ravens visit Houston on Sunday, the Bengals aren't in action until Monday against Denver, which has already clinched the AFC West.
The Steelers host the Bengals in next week's regular-season finale, while Baltimore faces Cleveland.
Pittsburgh beat Cincinnati 42-21 in Week 14 and followed that up with a 27-20 win at Atlanta last weekend.
"The last couple of games have been playoff games for us," quarterback Ben Roethlisberger said. "We've had to take that approach and that mindset because of how important every game was where we were record wise, seed-wise whatever you want to call it. We've kind of had that mentality for the last couple of weeks that it's time to get hot and play our best football.
"So we're just going to continue to try to do that."
The Chiefs (8-6) share that sentiment after ending a three-game losing streak with last Sunday's 31-13 win over lowly Oakland, reviving their hopes of eventually claiming a wild-card spot.
Kansas City wraps up the regular season at home versus San Diego, one of eight other teams vying for one of the two wild-card berths."Every game is playoff-mode," running back Jamaal Charlessaid. "Every game, you've got to come with it."
The Steelers are certainly doing it behind the league's top offense, gaining 424.9 yards per game and scoring 33.1 points while winning six of eight.
"We're trying to stack wins," cornerback William Gay said. "Playing against good opponents and just putting everything on the line."
Much of the focus is on their Big Three of Roethlisberger, wide receiver Antonio Brown and running back Le'Veon Bell, who are setting records along the way.
Roethlisberger's 4,415 passing yards are already a franchise record, while his 67.2 completion percentage is a career high. He's also tossed 29 touchdowns, three off his 2007 personal best.
Brown's 115 receptions lead the league, and are already a single-season team record. He set the franchise mark of 1,499 receiving yards last year, and needs just two yards to pass it. He's also one TD catch short of becoming the fourth Steelers wide receiver to grab a dozen, potentially joining Hines Ward (2002), Louis Lipps (1985) and Buddy Dial (1961).
Bell's 76 receptions are the most by a Steelers running back, 25 more than the previous record set by John L. Williams in 1994. He's also amassed a team-record 2,043 yards from scrimmage.
Another big game through the air won't come easy Sunday, with the Chiefs owning the second-best pass defense in the NFL at 199.2 yards per game.
"It's a good defense. We have to look at a lot more film because they get after the passer (and are) good in the secondary," Roethlisberger said. "This is going to be one of our toughest tasks of the year."
Kansas City relies heavily on Charles and Knile Davis, putting pressure on Pittsburgh's run defense, which has allowed 183 yards and one touchdown over the last two games.
The tandem has combined for 1,388 rushing yards and accounted for 21 of the team's 36 touchdowns.
Davis was key again last weekend after Charles underwent a concussion test following a hit. The second-year running back scored twice, including a 70-yard catch.
"Like Jamaal said, every game from here forward is a playoff game. We're taking that mindset into every game," Davis said. "For me, it's just a dream to be in the NFL. To make the big plays and help this team win is just huge all around."
The Chiefs could use some production from their wide receivers, who haven't scored a touchdown in 17 games to tie Cleveland (2008-09) and Denver (1971-72) for the longest such streak since the merger.
Alex Smith has thrown for 18 TDs this season, with Charles and tight end Travis Kelce grabbing five apiece.
"The fact that they're still winning games and haven't been able to have passing touchdowns like that, it shows that they're a very resourceful team," Steelers linebacker Arthur Moats said.
Pittsburgh has won four straight at home against Kansas City since a loss on Dec. 21, 1986.

 

[TheComputerGroup]

Go Steelers!!!!!!!

 

[thekeyman]

Go Steelers!!!!!!!

​i know you have them picked already,...lol.....good luck

 

[phillysfinest]

Not a sucker bet at all. Pittsburgh's defense is ineffective. Their defense has one of the highest opposing QB ratings in the lead. I expect Alex Smith to be very effective and Andy Reid's teams are usually stronger in the latter part of the season except for last year when they started out 9-0. I expect Smith, Charles, and Bowe to stake KC to a big lead early and keep KC alive in the playoff chase with a victory.

 

[TheComputerGroup]

​i know you have them picked already,...lol.....good luck

Thanks Key, good luck with all your plays as well........

 

[phlew]

just making sure im reading this right,you are saying the chiefs are a bad team?....correct

also are you serious that alex smith can't throw the ball over 30 yards,......your post is like a newspaper comic

then you say your defense is average,...and you believe they will win by 10,....then you say it should be close but maybe a backdoor TD for a cover,......i don't think you really know what your saying,if their going to win by 10 then a backdoor TD would be a push providing the line stays at -3,....and you call KC a mediocre team,well lets see,they have lost from the pre-season some of their most productive players to injury who mostly are on defense,then weeks later trade flowers to san diego,and have no TD's by a wideout and no 300 yard passing game from their QB who just might manage one of the best games on the field without turning it over .........IF which is a big word in a lot of senses,if the chiefs had their team that they planned on having on the field this year,this would not even be this much of a question,in fact they probably would be favored if they had a complete team,so for your mediocre submission about them id say they are doing one hell of a job even being in the playoff picture due to all they have gone through this year,.....this team should have maybe a 5 win season from the outlook at the start of the season,yet they pull together and come off with a 8-6 record and possibably making the playoffs,..something i would have never thought

well for one if you know anything about football alex smith doesn't throw the ball downfield....obviously it was a joke about throwing the ball 30 yards, i could do that, but he doesn't throw the ball downfield. Christ his nick name in SF was captain checkdown. And i think the game will be close... it will come down to the last drive... the chiefs COULD cover with backdoor td. BUT I think the steelers hang on and win by 9 or 10. which is a rather close game... not a blow out. And yes that would mean they cover. And you can make all the excuses you want for the chiefs... they are a mediocre team. I dont' care what the had to overcome. Can you comprehend that??

 

[MalikSealy]

Steelers are 2-10 ATS as a fav of less than 7 pts in their 1st of back to back home games.......


Steelers are 0-3 ATS past 3 vs Chiefs........


Andy Reid is 17-5 ATS as a road dog off a SU & ATS win vs a .500 or better opponent........


The trends favor the Chiefs, that's why the Steelers are -3.......among other things & I still like Pitt!

what??? the line being at -3 has nothing to do w the trends…you can find trends favoring both teams

 

[TheComputerGroup]

what??? the line being at -3 has nothing to do w the trends…you can find trends favoring both teams

I stated among other things, please keep reading....... also, trends are equated into the point spread, as well as public perception, etc.......are trends a main point of the spread? Heck no, but they're equated in there.......

 

[ensign_lee]

-3 is a very fair line.

You said it yourself, only 54% of bets are on PIT. That's pretty damn close to 50%.

Both teams are about evenly skilled and are both inconsistent. -3 means they are basically even. I see no sucker bet here.

 

[thekeyman]

well for one if you know anything about football alex smith doesn't throw the ball downfield....obviously it was a joke about throwing the ball 30 yards, i could do that, but he doesn't throw the ball downfield. Christ his nick name in SF was captain checkdown. And i think the game will be close... it will come down to the last drive... the chiefs COULD cover with backdoor td. BUT I think the steelers hang on and win by 9 or 10. which is a rather close game... not a blow out. And yes that would mean they cover. And you can make all the excuses you want for the chiefs... they are a mediocre team. I dont' care what the had to overcome. Can you comprehend that??

can you please repeat that for me,......thanks