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Palin may end up being a good choice for VP and add to the ticket (which time will tell) but you not because she's going to do well with women and steal those women votes.

I also do not think they did a thorough enough vetting process but that's another story (for instance...Obama's camp went to get archives for her daily newspaper...which weren't online and they told them they were the first people to ever ask and they will have to figure out to get it....FIRST ONES)

Anyways...

WOMEN DO NOT VOTE FOR OTHER WOMEN. GENDER 'S NOT LIKE RACE.

Clinton was an exception, she was viewed as a Clinton first...woman second...she was also in the public spotlight more than any woman ever.

I do not put much credence in the horse race factors of polls but dig underneath.....Look at every poll that has come out about Palin since announcement and before so.

There is a gender gap in each and every one, someone find one that isn't.

CNN poll

-Men appear to have a slightly favorably opinion of Palin than women; 41 percent of men view her favorably, five points higher than women.

Gallup poll

-By a narrow 41% to 35% margin, men said she was not ready to be president -- but women soundly rejected her, 48% to 25%.

-Overall, voters expressed a favorable impression of her by a 53/26 margin, but there was a severe gender gap on this: Men embraced her at 58% to 23%, while for women it was 48/30.

http://people-press.org/report/307/v...into-high-gear

Beyond Partisanship In addition to partisanship, other demographic differences emerged over what Americans see as positives and negatives when sizing up presidential candidates. Among the more noteworthy:
Older women are the most likely to say they would be less likely to vote for a female candidate. About one-in-five (21%) women ages 65 and older express reservations about voting for a woman for president, compared with just 8% of younger women, and 11% of men.
 

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The important factor is that she solidified a Republican base that has not been supoportive of McCain -

All of those Evangelicals, right to lifers, NRA members and conservative hunters and fishermen and all of those other conservatives have been given a solid and enthusiastic reason to give money to and supoport Mccain -

That vast unaligned center can also have a reason to go with one side or the other.

No matter what the moonbats do, Obama is still seen as a socialist - and Americans traditionally have a strong distaste for the far left.
 

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Exactly, bblight.

The only other candidate who would have generated this much unity and excitement is Bobby Jindal.

All of the others were either too boring or had too much baggage.

An absolutely outstanding selection!
 

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And I agree that is what she brings....rally and get a little excitement behind the social conservatives...but if you guys think she's bringing women/clinton women along (and there are countless posts stating this)....you're wrong
 

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And I agree that is what she brings....rally and get a little excitement behind the social conservatives...but if you guys think she's bringing women/clinton women along (and there are countless posts stating this)....you're wrong

Yeah, libs are making an issue about her sex -- not conservatives.

I don't know any conservative who is using that as a main argument for supporting Sarah Palin.

Sarah is a DREAM candidate on so many levels -- who just happens to be a woman.

I do find it a bit ironic though that the libs who invented identity politics are now scared shitless we might beat them at their own game.

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She was just an easy on the eyes Alaskan piece of white trash McLame thought that he could stick his dick in and steal the Hillary votes. That MFer must be going senile for real for approving such an unqualified and inept VP. He just handed over the election. Hell even the boys down at the Irish Social Club are voting for the Nigerian now :nohead:
 

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I also do not think they did a thorough enough vetting process but that's another story (for instance...Obama's camp went to get archives for her daily newspaper...which weren't online and they told them they were the first people to ever ask and they will have to figure out to get it....FIRST ONES)

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Seriously betit, you can't be serious.

How about this simple question, define "her daily newspaper"? I can see the poppycock already.
 

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its not her paper, its the area in which she resides that paper.
 

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Willie,

That wasnt' the point of my post and should've left it out...but I guess each camp has different definitions of thorough.

Do you think if one side feels like they need to do it, shouldn't the other?

I believe it was the Valley Frontiersman..her hometown paper

She says no one ever requested it but had a non denial denial of if McCain's camp asked for it.

Okay...I will concede property vetted has so many different definitions. I'm sure McCain's camp is comfortable (at the time) with the research they did but that doesn't mean they did everything a different camp would've done. So we're arguing semantics


On another note: The McCain camp is (smartly) dumping all the bad news onto a great day to release any bad news...not that below is a big story

From NBC's Mark Murray
Just asking, but with everyone focused on other news today, is the McCain camp trying to dump a lot of negative Palin news? Here's an exclusive from the Christian Broadcasting Network's David Brody:

"Sources close to Sarah Palin tell The Brody File that the husband of the GOP Vice-presidential choice, Todd Palin, was arrested and charged with Driving under the Influence of alcohol back in 1986. He was 22 years old at the time. He was driving in a truck with some friends in the small southwestern Alaska town of Dillingham when he was pulled over for the DUI. As is customary, he was taken to jail briefly. Sarah and Todd Palin were high school sweethearts so they were dating at the time. The Brody File can also report that there was no accident or injuries."

"Sources close to Sarah Palin also tell The Brody File that Todd Palin has been 'forthcoming about the situation and has indicated that it was a lesson learned from when he was younger.'"
 

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BTW Betit, polls about Palin released less than 72 hours after she was introduced to the country are actually something less than worthless. And polls trying to spin the public's opinion about her or how she will impact any demographic are even worse.

It's obvious Evangelicals, Pro Lifers and other elements of the Republican base are going to like her. We know McCain received seven million dollars within 24 hours. We don't know anything else, and your polls don't prove otherwise.

The people have to learn about her, and I'm optimistic about her after the preliminary results.
 

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I can only surmise that any information to be found about her can and will be found in one of the larger local newspapers. If the Obama camp wants to pile through the Osh Gosh Begosh to see if she didn't clap when the other middle team scored, so be it.
 

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BTW Betit, polls about Palin released less than 72 hours after she was introduced to the country are actually something less than worthless. And polls trying to spin the public's opinion about her or how she will impact any demographic are even worse.

It's obvious Evangelicals, Pro Lifers and other elements of the Republican base are going to like her. We know McCain received seven million dollars within 24 hours. We don't know anything else, and your polls don't prove otherwise.

evangelicals will turn on her. i dont care about them though. id actually take it as a compliment if evangelicals didnt vote for me but i think there as bad as terrorists so im not the best guy for that topic.
 

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We don't know anything else, and your polls don't prove otherwise.


You don't think it's at all telling there is a gender gap there in first and gut reactions? If so, we will agree to disagree

Historical trends are on my side too with women not voting for women.


BTW: I agree 100% the choice has excited the base around the ticket. No one can legitimately deny that.
 

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Palin's husband had a DUI in 1982, Obama admitted doing drugs.

McCain's camp is smart to get this shit out of the way, even as little as the shit is.
 

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Palin's husband had a DUI in 1982, Obama admitted doing drugs.

McCain's camp is smart to get this shit out of the way, even as little as the shit is.

you arnt a true parent if you think this is minor. either that, or you've just been brainwashed into thinking this should be the norm for kids these age. you americans keep lowering your standards.
 
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evangelicals will turn on her. i dont care about them though. id actually take it as a compliment if evangelicals didnt vote for me but i think there as bad as terrorists so im not the best guy for that topic.


GTC says:

(Evangelicals) "but i think there as bad as terrorists"

You've said some pretty stupid things on here, actually many
very stupid things, but this one has got to be in your top 10.

Evangelicalism is most closely associated with Protestant Christianity, which identifies with the gospel. Although evangelicalism has been defined in a number of ways,<sup id="cite_ref-0" class="reference">[1]</sup> most adherents consider belief in the need for personal conversion (or being "born again"), some expression of the gospel through evangelism, a high regard for Biblical authority, and an emphasis on the death and resurrection of Jesus to be key characteristics.<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference">[2]</sup>


So, Christians that believe in conversion through evangelism are as
bad as terrorists? Simply brilliant.
 

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come to my neighborhood. 3 churches when i first came here, 20 now and growing. church converts and controls the people, spreads to the next city like locusts. converts, builds churchs, moves on. that act of taking over cities and controlling its citizens is as terroristic as it gets.
 
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come to my neighborhood. 3 churches when i first came here, 20 now and growing. church converts and controls the people, spreads to the next city like locusts. converts, builds churchs, moves on. that act of taking over cities and controlling its citizens is as terroristic as it gets.

Last I checked, evangelical conversion is a free choice of the human
will, i.e. no gun is put to anyone's head.

Do you put the Mormon's, Jehovah's Witnesses, Moonies... in your little
"worse than terrorist" category too?

:ohno:
 

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