This is none of my business as I am not involved but feel like chiming in anyway. Take it how ever you like.
I don't want to see anyone get hurt here or lose money.
Seeing how Crude has now been exposed for the piece of shit that he is, Willie should refund all the money he has
back to their owners. If they were never going to be paid if they were never going to be paid it only seems right.
Also Crude should not get a dollar of anyone's money after he was just going to scam everyone.
Someone betting those amounts and giving those odds with so many raised red flags
I don't want to see anyone get hurt here or lose money.
Seeing how Crude has now been exposed for the piece of shit that he is, Willie should refund all the money he has
back to their owners. If they were never going to be paid if they were never going to be paid it only seems right.
Also Crude should not get a dollar of anyone's money after he was just going to scam everyone.
Someone betting those amounts and giving those odds with so many raised red flags
I don't know if I've ever seen more of a bizarro world than I've seen with this drama queen on this thread and his other thread over the last day and a half. This is the most twisted shit I think I've ever seen on this forum. Sure guys, now poor Red Eye is a victim and you buy this bullshit. Sorry, I'm more than happy to be the one to state the Emperor has no clothes no matter how many of you think this weasel should have his money refunded (which was his end goal no matter how many times he claims it was not).
Willie informed anyone of any of the wagers not posted up. They all knew it. If Red Eye had a problem with it, he could have said so at the time and demanded it be posted directly to Crudebar (it's what most people would do instead of start a drama filled thread). He chose not to answer why he started the thread to 3 posters, and 24 hours later claims it's just so he would post up for some wagers (oooh was that some big secret that he couldn't have admitted when asked?). It's a bullshit answer and it's more than obvious he was trying to get out of his losing positions. And then he continues on with how concerned he was about being paid. Paid for what? He knows and most people on this forum know he wasn't going to win anything (regardless of how long he wants to claims he has this great opportunity for victory....he has less than a snowball's chance in hell of winning anything). I'm just glad Willie is a standup guy and is doing the right thing.
The rest of this stuff about chargebacks, etc. is nothing but speculation and ultimately wouldn't be coming into play anyway. But do let him continue to play his little victim card 21 days before he was going to lose. He's as big a weasel as the guy he's accusing.
Willie informed anyone of any of the wagers not posted up. They all knew it. If Red Eye had a problem with it, he could have said so at the time and demanded it be posted directly to Crudebar (it's what most people would do instead of start a drama filled thread). He chose not to answer why he started the thread to 3 posters, and 24 hours later claims it's just so he would post up for some wagers (oooh was that some big secret that he couldn't have admitted when asked?). It's a bullshit answer and it's more than obvious he was trying to get out of his losing positions. And then he continues on with how concerned he was about being paid. Paid for what? He knows and most people on this forum know he wasn't going to win anything (regardless of how long he wants to claims he has this great opportunity for victory....he has less than a snowball's chance in hell of winning anything). I'm just glad Willie is a standup guy and is doing the right thing.
The rest of this stuff about chargebacks, etc. is nothing but speculation and ultimately wouldn't be coming into play anyway. But do let him continue to play his little victim card 21 days before he was going to lose. He's as big a weasel as the guy he's accusing.
@bodyforlife
It seems like your partisanship is clouding your judgment and you’re labeling Redeye as something he’s not. I’ve talked 1on1 with the guy for the last week, and he has been consistently trying to get these wagers settled successfully.
I think it’s pretty legitimate to raise concerns when you’re basically being asked to possibly give your personal information to a CRIMINAL who used personal information to blackmail another poster — all in order to not be labeled a stiff.
I also think it’s legitimate to revisit the conditions of the bet, because it’s pretty fair to say that almost no one would’ve bet this guy if they were aware of information about a poster that they SHOULDVE been aware of. I think posters wanting these wagers to be voided is a legitimate ask. That’s just my opinion — not speaking for anyone else.
I understand wanting to honor a bet, and I think Redeye has not said anything to imply that bets shouldn’t be honored.
I hope everyone is careful moving forward.
It seems like your partisanship is clouding your judgment and you’re labeling Redeye as something he’s not. I’ve talked 1on1 with the guy for the last week, and he has been consistently trying to get these wagers settled successfully.
I think it’s pretty legitimate to raise concerns when you’re basically being asked to possibly give your personal information to a CRIMINAL who used personal information to blackmail another poster — all in order to not be labeled a stiff.
I also think it’s legitimate to revisit the conditions of the bet, because it’s pretty fair to say that almost no one would’ve bet this guy if they were aware of information about a poster that they SHOULDVE been aware of. I think posters wanting these wagers to be voided is a legitimate ask. That’s just my opinion — not speaking for anyone else.
I understand wanting to honor a bet, and I think Redeye has not said anything to imply that bets shouldn’t be honored.
I hope everyone is careful moving forward.
Please just stop with the personal bs (partisanship my ass). You're as bad as he is on the deflection. And I'm sorry about your situation, but as others have stated to you, you seem to have used poor judgement. If you want to refute any of the comments I said, feel free, but enough with the labeling and personal bs. His timing on this thing is perfect and calculated, and it's as clear as day. This was his hail mary because he was going to lose a wager. And he's more than happy to have people like you do his fighting to get his money back.
As I said, Willie is a stand-up guy and is doing the right thing.
And as stated to you before Sam (even though you're ignoring it), any posted wagers were sent to Willie. There is no personal info being exchanged except to Willie for those. If they didn't trust Willie, they shouldn't have wagered. You were the one that exposed yourself on the personal info. Not the case here. If they opted not to do that, that's their issue, but it is the majority of the wagers in play here.
“I’m sorry what happened to you, but you have poor judgment.” That devalues literally everything in your post.
I could’ve judged and handled this situation several ways, but no matter how I did doesn’t change the fact that Crudebar is a pathetic human being who is probably better off not being on this planet. A complete disgrace of a human being. There is literally NO justification for what he did and how he acted, no matter how “naive” I was or how “poor my judgment” was. Get out of here with that garbage
Just a pathetic response on your part, and shows that your only motive in this thread is to try and needle Redeye. Like I said, completely partisan.
And for the judgment comment, you’re also a complete piece of shit.
Yes, and you still haven't addressed anything that I said in the original post you commented on (clearly you can't refute it so you turn it into something personal). Address the comment.
P.S. The partisanship comment is amusing since I wanted Trump to win (and no rational person expects that at this point).
I addressed your comment by calling out what it was: you are only interested in this situation because you are rooting for Redeye to either lose his wager or stiff on his wager. You’re giving Crudebar a pass because you fear his shameful actions might conflict with the outcome you desire
That’s all it is. Predictable, since that’s been your interest in every single post of yours.
Completely biased; as well as downright immoral
No, you didn't address the comment, you made it personal and tried to make it about me. Sorry, can't help you with that. If you have anything that actually relates to the points I made, feel free. I understand you're angry about the situation you encountered (which was unfortunate) and feel the need to have an advocate. But as was pointed out to you, this situation is a bit different. Nowhere did I say I was advocating for Crudebar so you can stop with that fabrication (or your partisanship bs). When you want to address the points I made, I'm more than happy to discuss it with you. As for everything that you encountered, I guess you can vent on a forum if it's therapeutic to you, but seeking professional help might be a better way to go. You obviously have a lot of pent up anger (and for a good reason...you were clearly victimized unlike the person you're defending).
I said my behavior was irrelevant to what Crudebar did.
As far as your post about Redeye, all you’re doing is accusing the guy of making a “last ditch effort” to get out of a bet without any sort of evidence. Your basis for your comments is that you don’t like him. It’s obvious.
Doubt he will waste as much time as I have trying to argue it with you:
Actually you misquoted what I said and then called me a piece of shit by stating something much more respectably than you described of yourself. And I'm guessing you don't look in the mirror and call yourself a piece of shit.
And you made it about your behavior by comparing the two situations, even though there are stark differences between them.
I'm not too worried about him spending any time on this (it would be more deflection anyhow).
I can state the obvious and feel fine with that. He wasn't going to win and he knows it. And that's what is predictable here.
Thank you my friend, but I don't see me getting hurt unless something really spirals out of control. I'm not even sure what that might be.
I'm a tad bit inconvenienced, and having Pay.Pal suspended sucks, but there are other cash transfer options out there like Zelle
