Xpanda: know anything about this?

[docmercer--banned]

Xpanda: Do you know anything about this report that I saw on the net this morning:

"the US and Canada now have an agreement that Canada will not be protecting those who go there to escape a military draft in the US ..."

I've read we are really screwed right now as the folks of Fallujah hate the Americans and support the Guerillas and we aint got enough troops to run around the country fighting one hot spot after another ...

If this report is true than the Draft rumors may be more than that ....

 

[bblight]

"If this report is true than the Draft rumors may be more than that ...."

Jesus Doc - do you have no shame!
We both know that there'll never be a draft - the new armed services aren't built that way. You're pandering here, and it's making you look foolish.

By the way, that ploy failed - the youth vote never materialized, so even they saw through it!

Now going after deserters - that's solid and should be done, if we can do it - to voluntarily enlist for the benefits, and cut and run when it's time to pay the fiddler - well, that ain't kosher.

 

[docmercer--banned]

bblight:

I didnt direct this question at you ....

Stop being Karl Rove's twin bro as the personal attacks on me from you are getting real old

 

[bblight]

The beauty of this forum is that it's public - all comments are solicited when you post. I'm obeying the rules of the forum - and I really don't much care if you don't like it.

In what way did I personally attack you?

I disagree with your comment - which is one of the reasons that this forum exists - but I didn't personally attack you.
Are you saying that anyone who disagrees with you is attacking you?

If you don't want to invite comment - then don't post!

 

[docmercer--banned]

bblight:

Now I know why you love Bush .... he too has a short memory lapse on every topic

Again, I'm not gonna lower myself to your levels ... your pattern is to basically attack anyone as basically being an idiot if God help them they are not fond of the Bush regime and their Neo-Con policies

 

[lander]

Blight,
Not too sure about your family, but hypothetically if you have a son and he is drafted -- what do you do?

Would you support his defection if he chose not to sacrifice blood for turmOIL?

 

[docmercer--banned]

Lander:

Watch the fun unfold .. breaking on Drudge:

Military commanders say need for more troops in fight against insurgents increasingly likely... Developing...

 

[xpanda]

December 2001, we sign some kind of 'smart border declaration' that will make it more difficult for either side to permanently defect to the other. You can be sure the Yanks did this to protect against draft dodgers, and the Canucks did it to ensure easy access to the American market.

http://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/anti-terrorism/actionplan-en.asp

So far as I can tell, marrying an American for the purpose of Canadian citizenship is still fine and dandy.

Courtesy of Shotgun:
www.marryanamerican.ca

 

[bblight]

After I sent my son off to college, he did enlist - and it pissed me off!

If there were a hypothetical draft, and my son was drafted, I'd expect him to serve with honor.

If he decided not to serve, I'd voice my extreme disappointment and displeasure, and then I'd do everything in my power to help him. He's my son - and that loyalty goes beyond everything else - EVERYTHING!

Unless you have adult children, don't even bother responding, because you'd never understand.

As for a draft - it'll never happen as long as the new services are aligned the way they are.

No insult intended here, but some people in this forum would rather throw gasoline on a fire - their intentions are ignorant and destructive - Anyone with half a brain could do some research into what the military could do with a draftee and figure out that a draft just won't work in todays modern army.

Way back when, they needed a lot of laborers to do scut work, and the battlefield was simple - it was them over there and us over here - keep shooting and the last man standing wins. In Vietnam, they threw a bunch of minimally trained teenagers into the battlefield and ended up with a lot of dead because of it. It didn't work then, and it won't work now.
By the way, in Vietnam, the dradtess went into the Marines and Army, the Air Force and Navy didn't draft because it wouldn't have worked for them. - they needed motivated people.

Nowadays, there isn't a lot of need for scut work - but there is a lot of need for highly trained specialists in all of ther fields - you have to have a minimal education to be able to function in the most labor internsive duties. The lowest denominator used to be the infantryman - but nowadays, they're highly trained and very deadly professionals. They regulary work with and fix the high twech equipment they're issued for the battlefield. They do much, if not most of their fighting at night and need to know how to use and fix the equipment that allows them to fight at night..

Do some studying and then think about today's army, and then tell me where a draftee who doesn't want to be there, would fit in.

 

[xpanda]

hmmm ... just thinking out loud here, but maybe all your newly legal illegal immigrants would be interested in joining the military? The pay is probably better ...

 

[PatPatriot]

No docs right,but what he missed is that Bush is going to end social security.That will force all the old people to join the Marines so they can get their sausage, bread and toilet paper.For the younger people he is going to either draft or put into labor camps for the major coorporations.....Oh wait doc maybe I'm thinking of Stalin 70 years ago..

 

[bblight]

Patriot - what are you trying to say? Are you saying that Doc is a zealot and a mudslinger!

Hmmm! Maybe you're right!

 

[PatPatriot]

blight did you happen to watch the history channel on Siberia last nite??

People in North America just don't appreaciate how good we have it.

 

[docmercer--banned]

That does not apply to me ...

I lived in a 3rd world country ...

My problem is not with this country .. my problem is the Republican stand that they represent and are the only party with Morals

Love it now how if you question Bush one is considered a traitor to this country ... same folks like bblight were calling Clinton every name possible for 8 straight years

 

[bblight]

Doc - I call them the way I see them.

I've said that Clinton broke his oath of marriage to his wife, he perjured himself, and because he was having sex with a subordinate, he's also guilty of sexual harrassment.
I've also said that the Republicans went overboard with the impeachment thing - they could have had a lot more fun bringing the salient points of Clintons transgressions up every time they had a chance.

Clinton also re-appointed Alan Greenspan, signed the Defense of Marriage act, and signed the Welfare reform bill. - which make him a pretty good guy in my opinion.

Doc - I'm a centrist - right of center, but a centrist anyway; And you are a left wing zealot!

 

[docmercer--banned]

bblight:

I would rather be a Left Wing Zealot than a Dittohead who bases his views on the pearls of Wisdom that King Druggie Limbaugh spouts every day ...

If I am a Left Wing Zealot it is because of your types that have a hard time admitting Bush has any faults and actually think he may have walked on water in the early part of his life ...