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Anyone watching the Warriors game?


How do you overturn a block and 1 into a charge?


I have never seen that before and we probably wont for the rest of the year. His feet were clearly out that wasn't the call. He was moving his body to get the call and they didn't want Curry to have his 5th in a tie game so they overturned it.


Of course they want Golden St to get the record even if they are on fumes. But wow. Lauren Holtkamp was just doing her job and they didn't like it.
 
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Announcers... "that is the craziest overturned call I have ever seen."

Lmao basketball.
 
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Now a perfect result because of the overturn.... Golden st have a chance to win it or we go to ot where g st will win it.
 
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yes please prove me wrong refs
 

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Terrible call. I think GS is in trouble in the playoffs. Not going to go far IMO.
 
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good great wonderful. I'm rooting against them that's for sure lol

they'll probably repeat though, happens so often in the nba
 
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Terrible call. I think GS is in trouble in the playoffs. Not going to go far IMO.

I think it was the right call that Lauren Holtkamp made. It was a blocking foul and Curry should of had 5 fouls. His right foot was up in the air and he leaned his body to the left to get the contact. How can you go to the monitor and overturn that? Lauren Holtkamp is like the nba's puppet unfortunately. When she "fucks up" they go and correct her and make it seem like she fucked up when she didn't or vice versa lol. It's bad. Live with your decisions.... the NBA hired her, they need to stand by the calls she makes. She was right.
 

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people still pay attention to NBA ?? LOL


Golden State Warriors last two home winning streaks ...

January 31, 2015 to March 29, 2016: 54 games

April 3, 2016 to April 3, 2016: 1 game
 

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According to BPI, the Warriors' chances of winning 73 games dropped from 80% entering their April 1 game to 15% after loss to MIN tonight.
 

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a few more just because I hate NBA and Golden St ... LOL


The Warriors were 94.3% likely to win Tuesday's game vs MIN, per BPI, making the Timberwolves' win the biggest upset of the season.


Golden State's loss to Minnesota snaps a win streak of 114 games when taking a 15-point lead.
 
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people still pay attention to NBA ?? LOL


Golden State Warriors last two home winning streaks ...

January 31, 2015 to March 29, 2016: 54 games

April 3, 2016 to April 3, 2016: 1 game

I like it more than college personally. crazy upset, T wolves were hungry tonight.
 

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i didn't understand that when they reversed that call.......... did they reverse it because curry was outside the circle (he was) or because they looked at curry's movement (which i assumed wasn't reviewable).

i didn't see it but heard there was a make-up call not long afterwards and would have liked to have more of a look at rubio forcing that turnover in OT. seemed like there was alot of movement

i was cheering like crazy for minnesota.....................pure pure hindsight (and i wasn't looking so good down 15) but minnesota might have been a tough game as very young, active team and i think GSW is getting tired/tight down the stretch.
 

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I like it more than college personally. crazy upset, T wolves were hungry tonight.

I haven't watched NBA since early 90's ... IMO NCAAB is following and going right down the drain ... I still follow NBA scores and glad to see the Whorearriors take it deep tonight.
 
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i didn't understand that when they reversed that call.......... did they reverse it because curry was outside the circle (he was) or because they looked at curry's movement (which i assumed wasn't reviewable).
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Even if they did reverse it because his feet were out of the circle.... according to that call.... it is the easiest thing in the world to take a charge now. You apparently can be moving your feet as long as you are outside of the circle and you also can lean into the offensive player to try to get full contact. That's what happened.

The call wasn't that his feet were out of the circle. This is where there is a judgement decision in the rules and that's my issue with this.

If the ref points to the circle like they normally do when there is a blocking foul( which they should be doing) that means his feet were on the line. Holtkamp never pointed to the circle because that wasn't the call. His feet were clearly not touching the line...the issue with it was he was leaning and still moving. So how do you go to the monitor and say... "oh the feet moving and the leaning of his body doesn't matter, all that matters is that his feet were out of the circle."

Lol that is ridiculous. That is a convo they literally probably had. So easy to manipulate the rules it's wild.
 
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If he is not on the line you have to judge the block/charge call just like any other at any spot on the floor. He clearly was not on the line so wtf were they reviewing? He could of been at half court trying to take a charge... 99% of the time they call that a blocking foul when a player tries to take a charge at half court off a trap or something. ... do they go review that and say you know what... that wasn't a block that was a charge. Keep football for the misunderstandings.
 

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Mobdeeper, i was agreeing with you - i think..

you just didn't like the call - regardless of what the whole replay was about?

i'm not really enough of a basketball fan to know.. to a layman he was pretty much standing still, but to NBA observors i think he was moving slightly

i just wanted to know what the video overrule was about...... announcers made it sound like they were checking the contact i.e. the foul action - not the feet placement.
 

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It was easily a charge. I'll give you that Curry was moving slightly, but it was more to protect himself than it was to slide into the call. Karl Anthony Towns is 7' tall and at least 250/260 lbs. Curry is 6' 3" and 190 lbs. What is he supposed to do when someone that is 8" taller and 60 lbs heavier is running at him full speed?

Yes, that overturn is something you don't see much. But that's because it's a new rule that they just added exactly for cases like this. When it's at the end of the game and a bad call can decide who wins or loses.

Also, watching Holtkamp ref is brutal. The LA Times voted her the 2nd worst ref in the league earlier this year and the King T Jr. times voted her the worst ref in the league today.
 
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My point is if that isn't a blocking foul....then they don't call blocking fouls in the nba as long as the player is above the circle.

That's my problem. You can move and have one foot in the air without being set..... if that's not a blocking foul then nothing is if a player is about to take a charge under the basket and he is above the circle.

Ktjr. Bro. Karly Anthony towns only half of his body caught curry because Curry had to lean in to the left to even get half of that contact.


Just because he's small doesn't mean shit. If a big guy has his feet set and is not moving and gets run over that's a charge.


What they replayed in a close game was the fact that curry had his foot above the circle. But that wasn't the call on the floor. Apparently you can just manipulate it to whatever outcome you want in this situation. She clearly saw that his feet were above the circle....becuz if she didn't she is by rule, supposed to point to the circle.

She didn't point. Which tells you she saw that his feet were above and she still thought it was a block because he wasn't set and because karl was trying to angle his body away and curry was trying to position himself more while Karl was in the air. That's a blocking foul on any level. It was a great call by the terrible ref.

I'm telling you the main issue was that it would be Currys 5th in a potential tie game. That's a big call.
 

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Not sure what the link rule here is, but I'll try to post: https://streamable.com/lezh. If that is not enough for you to say it's a charge, then idk what else to say. Yes, he's manipulating himself slightly to get extra contact, as well as tensing up to get hit.

Harden gets calls, James gets calls, Curry gets calls, Durant gets calls, etc etc etc. The stars get the benefit of the doubt, everyone knows that. But this is a charge, if anything. I would've been cool with a no-call too, but since whatsherface blew her whistle it has to go one way.

I'd also like to point out, Mob, that you do not have to be stationary to take a charge. You have to establish position, which he did.
 

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