Worst Possible Suckout

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This happened to me on Absolute Poker last night. It is the worst
possible suckout you can have in Hold Em, a two outter
followed by a 1 outter.

(2/45) * (1/44) = ~ .001
Hand info:

<table><tbody><tr><td>Date:</td><td style="padding-left: 6px;">2009-06-26 03:24:25 (ET)</td></tr><tr><td>Type:</td><td style="padding-left: 6px;">Cash Games</td></tr><tr><td>Game:</td><td style="padding-left: 6px;">Hold'em NL</td></tr><tr><td>Table:</td><td style="padding-left: 6px;">CYPRESS</td></tr><tr><td>Blinds: </td><td style="padding-left: 6px;">$0.05/0.10</td></tr></tbody></table>


Table info:

<table class="small" width="250"><tbody><tr><td align="left"> Posts small blind $0.05</td></tr></tbody></table>
Seat 1: PHIMK ($17.17)
<table class="small" width="250"><tbody><tr><td align="left"> Posts big blind $0.10</td></tr></tbody></table>
Seat 2: UNCLEFREIZO ($27.60)
Seat 3: FesterZ ($20.50)
Seat 4: RANWIN1009 ($3.25)
Seat 5: YOUATRIP2 ($4.55)
<table class="small" width="250"><tbody><tr><td align="left"> Dealer</td></tr></tbody></table>
Seat 6: VURMIN1602 ($33.54)

Dealt to FesterZ
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Check odds
Preflop: (Pot: $0.15)

CALL FesterZ, $.10
FOLD RANWIN1009
CALL YOUATRIP2, $.10
CALL VURMIN1602, $.10
CALL PHIMK, $.05
CHECK UNCLEFREIZO


Check odds
Flop: (Pot: $.50)

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CHECK PHIMK
CHECK UNCLEFREIZO
BET FesterZ, $.20
CALL YOUATRIP2, $.20
CALL VURMIN1602, $.20
FOLD PHIMK
FOLD UNCLEFREIZO



Check odds
Turn: (Pot: $1.10)

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BET FesterZ, $.20
CALL YOUATRIP2, $.20
CALL VURMIN1602, $.20



River: (Pot: $1.70)

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BET FesterZ, $.40
FOLD YOUATRIP2
RAISE VURMIN1602, to $2.20
RAISE FesterZ, to $4.40
RAISE VURMIN1602, to $18.80
RAISE FesterZ, to $20 and is ALL-IN
CALL VURMIN1602, $1.20



Showdown:

SHOWS FesterZ
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SHOWS VURMIN1602
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VURMIN1602 wins the pot of $39.62 with Four of a kind, eights
 
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terible bet sizing, and it would help to see the cards

I love how someone can view one hand history, and not take into account
that I've been playing with these guys at this table for 3 hours - and has to make some stupid-ass comment about bet sizing.

The fact is, I had a monster, especially on the turn, and didn't want to
blow these guys out of the pot, but wanted to build it, and let them
possibly improve their hand. I think I played the hand just fine.

He caught a < 1/1000 runner, runner. Nothing I can do about that
lightening strike.
 

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Not bad beats here but missed draws that were probably favorities to win. This 1st 1 the guy is playing every hand, its a short table but still i know he's loose and buying pots. I got in this game to go against him....ive got a zillion outs, hit the straight on the turn and he hits a gutshot on the river...Puke fucking city..3 outer cus the Kd would have won it for me


Stage #1500198993: Omaha Hi/Lo Normal $30/$60 - 2009-06-26 10:13:00.008 (ET) [ 2009-06-26 10:13:00 ]
Table: EAST St.1 (Real Money) Seat #6 is the dealer
Seat 6 - NEBKILL ($577 in chips)
Seat 1 - ALLYNLONG ($785.50 in chips)
Seat 4 - FREECOOKIES ($2,347.55 in chips)
Seat 5 - SAMPSONWB ($3,633.3 in chips)
ALLYNLONG - Posts small blind $15
FREECOOKIES - Posts big blind $30
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to ALLYNLONG [Qd 9d 8d Qs]
SAMPSONWB - Calls $30
NEBKILL - Folds
ALLYNLONG - Calls $15
FREECOOKIES - Checks
*** FLOP *** [10c Ad 2h]
ALLYNLONG - Checks
FREECOOKIES - Bets $30
SAMPSONWB - Calls $30
ALLYNLONG - Calls $30
*** TURN *** [10c Ad 2h] [Jd]
ALLYNLONG - Checks
FREECOOKIES - Checks
SAMPSONWB - Checks
*** RIVER *** [10c Ad 2h Jd] [Kh]
ALLYNLONG - Checks
FREECOOKIES - Bets $60
SAMPSONWB - Folds
ALLYNLONG - Calls $60
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FREECOOKIES - Shows [5c 10s Qh 4s] (Straight, ten to ace)
ALLYNLONG - Mucks
FREECOOKIES Collects $297 from main pot

Ok this 1 should have folded PF but it was only 30 more, big pot coming , loose players, i think its a call.
I flop a straight draw on the turn a double belly buster draw and STILL this time when i miss the winner hits a 1 outer!! i didnt look at the other guys he may not have even needed it nut lifes a fucking bitch men......i shouldnt even have been in this game and i lost about 900 total in 16 hands. Christian will kill me for these 2 im sure and he's right, i just had a line on these guys and with just a lil help in the luck dept i would have left with a lot of money..
Stage #1500189535: Omaha Hi/Lo Normal $30/$60 - 2009-06-26 10:01:15.004 (ET) [ 2009-06-26 10:01:15 ]
Table: EAST St.1 (Real Money) Seat #5 is the dealer
Seat 5 - SAMPSONWB ($3,843.3 in chips)
Seat 6 - NEBKILL ($646.75 in chips)
Seat 1 - ALLYNLONG ($1,600 in chips)
Seat 3 - SPONSOR ($1,974.75 in chips)
Seat 4 - FREECOOKIES ($1,706.30 in chips)
NEBKILL - Posts small blind $15
ALLYNLONG - Posts big blind $30
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to ALLYNLONG [8h 10d 2s Kh]
SPONSOR - Calls $30
FREECOOKIES - Folds
SAMPSONWB - Raises $60 to $60
NEBKILL - Calls $45
ALLYNLONG - Calls $30
SPONSOR - Calls $30 (Preselection)
*** FLOP *** [9d 7h 2d]
NEBKILL - Checks
ALLYNLONG - Checks
SPONSOR - Checks
SAMPSONWB - Bets $30
NEBKILL - Folds
ALLYNLONG - Calls $30
SPONSOR - Calls $30
*** TURN *** [9d 7h 2d] [Qc]
ALLYNLONG - Checks
SPONSOR - Checks
SAMPSONWB - Bets $60
ALLYNLONG - Calls $60
SPONSOR - Raises $120 to $120
SAMPSONWB - Raises $120 to $180
ALLYNLONG - Calls $120
SPONSOR - Raises $120 to $240
SAMPSONWB - Calls $60
ALLYNLONG - Calls $60
*** RIVER *** [9d 7h 2d Qc] [9s]
ALLYNLONG - Checks
SPONSOR - Bets $60
SAMPSONWB - Calls $60
ALLYNLONG - Folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SPONSOR - Shows [Js Jh 9h 9c] (Four of a kind, nines)
SAMPSONWB - Mucks
SPONSOR Collects $1,167 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($1,170) | Rake ($3)
Board [9d 7h 2d Qc 9s]
Seat 1: ALLYNLONG (big blind) Folded on the RIVER
Seat 3: SPONSOR collected Total ($1,167) HI:($1,167) with Four of a kind, nines [Js Jh 9h 9c - B:9s,P:9h,B:9d,P:9c,B:Qc]
Seat 4: FREECOOKIES Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: SAMPSONWB (dealer) HI: [Mucked] [Ad 7c 7d 6h]
Seat 6: NEBKILL (small blind) Folded on the FLOP
 

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I love how someone can view one hand history, and not take into account
that I've been playing with these guys at this table for 3 hours - and has to make some stupid-ass comment about bet sizing.

The fact is, I had a monster, especially on the turn, and didn't want to
blow these guys out of the pot, but wanted to build it, and let them
possibly improve their hand. I think I played the hand just fine.

He caught a < 1/1000 runner, runner. Nothing I can do about that
lightening strike.

Since you were playing with these guys for 3 hours did none of them play this poorly during that whole time (to stay in with an 86 offsuit)? If they did take risks like this certainly you had to know that someone could have been playing with an 8.

Another thing to consider is the pot size. After 3 hours of playing it's possible for someone to say "fuck it, I'm going to take a chance and steal a pot. If I lose it's only $20 max."
 

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Playing for such small money you should never try to keep them in the pot. More times than not they would call you anyway with a bigger bet. I have changed my way of thinking when playing 1-2 NL. I bet and bet and bet bigger with the "nuts" players are so bad they will call you anyway.


Move up in $ and you might do better. At that low of stakes I would always want to see a flop.
 
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Playing for such small money you should never try to keep them in the pot. More times than not they would call you anyway with a bigger bet. I have changed my way of thinking when playing 1-2 NL. I bet and bet and bet bigger with the "nuts" players are so bad they will call you anyway.


Move up in $ and you might do better. At that low of stakes I would always want to see a flop.

I like to play at a level where I can play 5 tables at a time, and sit in
my recliner w/ my laptop and watch TV.

At these levels I can have $100 in play over 5 tables, (or $250 at the .10/.25 NL) and watch my sports shows, and still make a decent hourly
rate.
 

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post the Excel spreadsheet

play bodog?
lets play some time... i play .25/.50 NL 6 handed or .5/1 NL 6 handed, hit me up
 
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I'm admittedly not much of a heads up player.

My current career poker winnings stand today at just over $54,000.00

I'm curious why you are being such a prick?
 

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