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2013: PO POW 3-1, Teasers 0-0, Overall 4-5-1
Posted RX SB: 2-3


DEN (-2) proved they could hold onto the div & #1 seed after being seriously threatened by KC, despite a slew of injuries esp on "D". They've been a team that's held it together, despite being the biggest gm on the calendar for every team they faced. And their schedule was far from cupcake softness. They played PO teams 7 times during the season, w/a really hyped up opener vs the SB Champs. On "O", there was uncertainty @ LT & C w/all-pro Ryan Clady going on IR early & losing Dan Koppen in July. RB's struggled early & DEN was w/out Welker & Julius Thomas in stretches. They even loss their HC for a while. Yet the "O" didn't miss a beat. Why? What's the 1 consistent in all of that? That person (likely MVP for SB & the NFL) is the reason why I give the Broncos a big edge in the big gm. SEA's "D" is special but it's not great. Their secondary hits hard, but they can be outsmarted. Sherman is a great cover corner, & KJ Wright is a TE specialist, but who will shut down Decker, Welker & Moreno? And will SEA's "D" be able to handle all the different plays out of multiple formations? Containing the 1 dimensional Kaepernick & Drew Brees away from a dome are ok, but this is a completely different animal. In fact SEA's secondary had major difficulties w/T.Y. Hilton @ IND w/Sherman on Reggie most of the gm. SEA plays a very basic "D" which relies on its talent to make plays. This works great against running QB's (SF & CAR) & dysfunctional "O"s (NYG & ATL). So I strongly feel DEN will win that battle of their "O" vs SEA's "D". On the other side, DEN's "D" again is getting no respect. They've lost starters Vickerson, Miller, Wolfe, Moore & Harris over the course of the season, yet still finished #8 vs the run w/an avg under 100 rypg (SEA was #13). Their major problem is late gm swoons. DEN has had the lead @ halftime in all their gms except 2, yet a lot of their gms have been close @ the end. Chances are if SEA is to pull this one off, they'll need to make a 2nd half comeback. Russell Wilson's #'s take a noticeable dip in the 2nd half, & in the 4th Q. This is the time when SEA has relied on Lynch to close out opponents, but they've always been in the lead. Wilson has been awful since their Wk 14 tilt @ SF. SEA's oline is not the best (some would say they're below avg) & w/the way DT Knighton is playing, I expect Wilson to be under duress often. Seeing as defending the run is DEN's specialty, Lynch shouldn't expect much success either. CBs Tony Carter & Champ Bailey did a great job replacing Chris Harris vs NE. R-Cromartie should shut down Tate or Harvin, w/Carter & Champ more than able to contain Baldwin & Kearse. Percy is a major wildcard rt now, but being out that long & now coming off a concussion, I have a feeling he won't be a factor as some people expect. If I were DEN I'd be hitting him hard & early, & always attempting to force a fumble. Finally the experience factor will loom large here. Fox has been thru SB preps while Carroll has not. This is Peyton's 3rd SB & he's been telling the team to not take this opportunity for granted. Watching the reactions from DEN & SEA postgame last wk tells the tale. SEA is yelling, hugging, crying & giving WWE-type interviews (I so wanted Sherman to say "Uuuuuugh, WHAT A RUSH!!" after his interview), while DEN personnel were definitely happy, but there's one more game. Don't get me wrong, SEA will be focused, I just feel DEN will be more so, esp @ the critical positions. A friend of mine (who's on SEA) mentioned this SB reminds him of the first NE/NYG epic; where the juggernaut "O" faces off against a stout "D". If you read my post last wk about Peyton vs Brady, then you'll know what I feel about that comparison. I agree that the 2 SB's are similar but for a much different reason. The heavy public fav will win this one too.


SEA 16
DEN 27
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Note: Weather is currently forecast to be 27-34 degrees w/80% chance of rain/snow. This will likely impact the final score, but definitely not my prediction. Peyton has taken preparations for cold & wind before, and playing @ DEN the last 2 yrs has helped that. Also, my Units is low because I'm waiting for MVP odds to come out (currently looking like 11/10) for Peyton, which acts like a ML play. I'll post that when it comes.


GL to everyone, and as always, comments are most welcome.
 

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8mph winds is almost non-existent if that holds up Denver will destroy them.
 

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Its not like I have short term memory but this superbowl reminds me so much of last years superbowl. Not from a team matchup stand point.but purely from what team everyone in the public is on. I would ask random people who they have and it was always SF last year. Now its the same thing. Everyone is picking denver that I talk to because 1) they love peyton manning and "he will not let them lose" and or 2) they dont like sherman... Im sure most of these people never even heard of sherman before his rant on tv.... how is denver going to destroy seattle when manning has 1 td and 1 int in each of his two sbs and seattles defense is better than the other two he faced? Even espn is all over mannings dick
 

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Dude if you are not worried about Manning getting 2 weeks to take a look at your defense then you must be crazy. The Denver o-line has held up, even without Clady
 

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Doesnt the defense get two weeks to look at his tendencies? Seems to me he has a tendency to not perform well in big games and in cold weather on top of that. I guess past performances dont mean much to you. Just supposed to buy into the fact that he had a record breaking season and he will just keep on cruising with a superbowl win? I dont have the stats on players with record breaking regular seasons that dont go on to win the superbowl, but it seems to me that it was written somewhere that it spells doom in the playoffs at some point.
 

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Shark, I think the difference here is Peyton & his experience. SEA is very young & he can take advantage of that. Pete Carroll himself has very little PO experience compared w/Fox (4-2 vs 8-5 in POs). This matchup has more to do w/DEN's inspired "D", Peyton's mastering of his "O", & SEA's shortcomings on "O" than Peyton's regular season records.

I used to win a lot of SB's going against what the public thought, until 2008. And as you can see from my SB record, I continued to go against the sentimental fav & lose. NE was unstoppable going 18-0 & blowing out teams. I knew Brady didn't pass well when you moved him from his spot & that great dline definitely had the ability to do that. But, the 2 wks @ work, family events & w/friends leading up to the SB, all I heard was Giants Giants Giants. Ugh, I had to go against my initial lean based on history. Then NOR beats IND after Katrina, golden boy Aaron Rodgers takes it to the vanilla Steelers & NYG again beat the hated Patsies. The tides have turned & the public has been fortunate enough to be on the rt side, but for the wrong reasons.
 

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love it WP.

plus it's easier for Manning to change his play calls on the fly to what Seattle defense is doing than for Seattle D to change their schemes during the game. I'll take Denver by 7-10 next week, even in a blizzard.
 

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nyg vs ne ne -12 lost
pitt vs ariz pitt-7 won,didnt cover
ind vs no ind -5 lost
pitt vs gb gb -3 won , covered by 3
nyg vs ne ne -2.5 lost
balt vs sf sf -4 lost

We know the public was wrong last year,,,u telling me the publc had it right on the other 5?

If anything, I can see now that the favorite has covered only 1 superbowl in the last 6,,,,didnt look at prior to these 6
 

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love it WP.

plus it's easier for Manning to change his play calls on the fly to what Seattle defense is doing than for Seattle D to change their schemes during the game. I'll take Denver by 7-10 next week, even in a blizzard.
My sentiments exactly. SEA plays such a base "D" that if they tip their hand more often than not, Peyton will find openings. GL to us.

nyg vs ne ne -12 lost
pitt vs ariz pitt-7 won,didnt cover
ind vs no ind -5 lost
pitt vs gb gb -3 won , covered by 3
nyg vs ne ne -2.5 lost
balt vs sf sf -4 lost

We know the public was wrong last year,,,u telling me the publc had it right on the other 5?

If anything, I can see now that the favorite has covered only 1 superbowl in the last 6,,,,didnt look at prior to these 6
The sentimental, or public favorite has won or covered my friend. I don't have the numbers, but based off all my conversations & what I saw online, the general betting public has taken 5 of the last 6. I would venture to say BAL may have been the public darling last yr too outside of SF. A lot of folks I knew were cheering for the Ravens because of Ray Lewis, Ed Reed & thought they were a destiny team after beating DEN & NE. In fact, this would be the first yr where the bonafide public fav is also giving pts (although Vegas opened SEA @ -1).

Love the pick!
Best of Luck!
Thanks Sam, let's get this!!!
 

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peyton is great no doubt. a pocket passer like brees though still had trouble finding receivers open. seattle dbs not only hit hard but are fast to get to the reciever to either pick off or tackle so there wont be many yac yards.
saints receivers will tell u that the seattle db's were practically wearing their uniforms - that is how good seattle's d is. again peyton is great - but u cant throw to a receiver that is completely being covered.
gl ne ways wormy. i am on the other side
 

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peyton is great no doubt. a pocket passer like brees though still had trouble finding receivers open. seattle dbs not only hit hard but are fast to get to the reciever to either pick off or tackle so there wont be many yac yards.
saints receivers will tell u that the seattle db's were practically wearing their uniforms - that is how good seattle's d is. again peyton is great - but u cant throw to a receiver that is completely being covered.
gl ne ways wormy. i am on the other side

Brees isnt 6'5 like Peyton and he doesnt have the weapons Peyton has. Thomas, Decker, Thomas, Welker, Plus peyton reading the defense and opening up the run game...

also I think the Denver D comes to play. Wilson is not nearly the same QB on the road a Broncos run D has been good this season.
 

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Seer, like Swift mentioned, Peyton's height is definitely a huge advantage over Brees & although Peyton played most of his career in a dome, Brees & his "O" relies way more on it for quickness. He is also correct when he says DEN's receivers are better than NOR's. I mean, ATL's "D" held NOR this yr to 23 & 17 pts! And NOR's "O" IMO gave away that gm @ SEA (too many mental errors). Quite frankly Brees is not on the same level as Peyton either. The way he dissects "D"s, develops his receivers & RBs, AND creates his protection is 2nd to none. I like that "meme" w/the pic of Demaryius, Decker & Welker lined up ready to run w/caption saying, "You'd better have 3 Shermans!"

I am a big Dolphins fan, so I have no reason to like Peyton. But he is so incredible when it comes to controlling the fate of his team. There are players that make their teams better, and then there's Manning. The guy had me sold when Anthony Gonzalez was drafted by the Colts & shortly after Peyton called him to arrange throwing sessions @ Ohio St. He's a maestro on the field & is fun to watch. Kurt Warner is the closest thing to him since he also dominated on 2 different teams. Where was Julius Thomas & Moreno before this yr? DEN loses Welker, & then Andre Caldwell catches 2 TDs the next gm. Brady did a great job w/Edelman & Amendola but NE shifted to a great run "O" which was Belicheat & McDaniels' brainstorm. And look @ what happened when that run gm got shut down & NE needed Brady.

Seer, SEA needs to score to win this one, & I have zero faith in Wilson. Swift is wrong that Wilson is different w/out the 12th man, because he has been bad @ hm & away in recent wks. I have a hard time thinking a 2nd yr player will suddenly snap out of his funk on the biggest stage there is.

But, one never knows! That's why this is so fun. Thanks for voicing your opinion tho, & GL to you & Swift.
 

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Seer, like Swift mentioned, Peyton's height is definitely a huge advantage over Brees & although Peyton played most of his career in a dome, Brees & his "O" relies way more on it for quickness. He is also correct when he says DEN's receivers are better than NOR's. I mean, ATL's "D" held NOR this yr to 23 & 17 pts! And NOR's "O" IMO gave away that gm @ SEA (too many mental errors). Quite frankly Brees is not on the same level as Peyton either. The way he dissects "D"s, develops his receivers & RBs, AND creates his protection is 2nd to none. I like that "meme" w/the pic of Demaryius, Decker & Welker lined up ready to run w/caption saying, "You'd better have 3 Shermans!"

I am a big Dolphins fan, so I have no reason to like Peyton. But he is so incredible when it comes to controlling the fate of his team. There are players that make their teams better, and then there's Manning. The guy had me sold when Anthony Gonzalez was drafted by the Colts & shortly after Peyton called him to arrange throwing sessions @ Ohio St. He's a maestro on the field & is fun to watch. Kurt Warner is the closest thing to him since he also dominated on 2 different teams. Where was Julius Thomas & Moreno before this yr? DEN loses Welker, & then Andre Caldwell catches 2 TDs the next gm. Brady did a great job w/Edelman & Amendola but NE shifted to a great run "O" which was Belicheat & McDaniels' brainstorm. And look @ what happened when that run gm got shut down & NE needed Brady.

Seer, SEA needs to score to win this one, & I have zero faith in Wilson. Swift is wrong that Wilson is different w/out the 12th man, because he has been bad @ hm & away in recent wks. I have a hard time thinking a 2nd yr player will suddenly snap out of his funk on the biggest stage there is.

But, one never knows! That's why this is so fun. Thanks for voicing your opinion tho, & GL to you & Swift.

seattle has +21 in takeaways and will create them on sb sunday. compare that to den's even on give/takeaway.
frankly i hate seattle's o coordinator. wilson is fine. he is told not to take chances. if sea's o coordinator was more creative they would be routing teams like sf even.
i have full faith with lynch though and that swiss cheese #19 ranked d that denver has though.
my prop bet will be on lynch as sb mvp cuz of this. wilson is just there not to create errors. as much as seattle will have trouble stopping or limiting manning. den will have its hands full with beast mode. u cant stack the box up with harvin out there either.
ne ways gl i will have a near 3 pg w/u on this game that u will see once i finish on thurs- sat
 

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I also replied in your thread about DEN's "D". Great info!

I think if SEA is to win the SB, Wilson will have to be the MVP. Him or Harvin (STs & WR). Well, of course if Lynch runs for 200 yds then you've got yourself a winner! Yeah, I don't know how Carroll, coming from that high flying USC "O", can stomach Bevell. If he sticks to his guns, I'd be very worried about SEA. Even you have to admit SEA was extremely fortunate to get past both NOR & SF. Lynch & their "D" carried the team waay too much.
 

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I also replied in your thread about DEN's "D". Great info!

I think if SEA is to win the SB, Wilson will have to be the MVP. Him or Harvin (STs & WR). Well, of course if Lynch runs for 200 yds then you've got yourself a winner! Yeah, I don't know how Carroll, coming from that high flying USC "O", can stomach Bevell. If he sticks to his guns, I'd be very worried about SEA. Even you have to admit SEA was extremely fortunate to get past both NOR & SF. Lynch & their "D" carried the team waay too much.
Lynch will be a non-factor much like Blount was for N.E.
It won't take long for Manning for find holes in Seattle's "D" and then exploit them.
 

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cant throw lying on your back... Seattle D will be the difference... he hasn't seen anything like it this year... fact.

and the post above, of "lynch being a non factor much like blount...".. I cant believe someone would even type that...

go Seahawks...
 

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i believe Den's D is underrated

it cant be. no one talks about it.
they just see that they think it is adequate to stop the beast with'the number7' ranked run d.
den d is terrible - if the o can chew up big chunks of time off the clock like it has vs bad d's of chargers and pats then their terrible d wont be on the field.
but i doubt it
 

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