Will books ban you?

Salain · Nov 3, 2005

Hypothetically, say that you win a moderate % of games in large numbers consistently. Would the books ban you if you've taken them for two times your starting bankroll? 6 times? 100?

If so - and if it is important that you are allowed to play at a certain small (3-4) number of books - what would you do to prevent this from happening? Moving the money around? beards?

This has nothing to do with anything of questionable legitimacy like bonus shopping. Serious replies only please, save the commentary.

bigbet1234 · Nov 3, 2005

I have won 10 times my starting BR, and no problem at some books, some will boot you for moving your mouse wrong(Legendz)

BBQUOTE=Salain]Hypothetically, say that you win a moderate % of games in large numbers consistently. Would the books ban you if you've taken them for two times your starting bankroll? 6 times? 100?

If so - and if it is important that you are allowed to play at a certain small (3-4) number of books - what would you do to prevent this from happening? Moving the money around? beards?

This has nothing to do with anything of questionable legitimacy like bonus shopping. Serious replies only please, save the commentary.[/QUOTE]

TTinCO · Nov 3, 2005

It depends entirely upon the book

Salain · Nov 3, 2005

I deal with the books that seem to have the better reps here, including betcris, pinnacle, olympic, millenium, and 5dimes.

bigbet1234 · Nov 3, 2005

Wint have a problem, maybe MILL, but no problems with pinny OLY, CRIS, 5 dimes

Salain said:
I deal with the books that seem to have the better reps here, including betcris, pinnacle, olympic, millenium, and 5dimes.

MillenniumSportsbook · Nov 3, 2005

Salain said:
I deal with the books that seem to have the better reps here, including betcris, pinnacle, olympic, millenium, and 5dimes.

Truthfully yars ago Millennium used to toss the shakers, makers, and steam players. In some instances we have actually invited guys back in from years ago that were let loose. Bookmaking is all about harnessing these guys, and playing them against each other to the company's best interests. Not to say that betmill doesn't limit action on some of these guys, or limit bonus policies, but they take em right on now. Betmill has some sharp guys that want their money weekly etc....in return they ask for no bonus, or reload bonuses, rather they just want a shop that has a good number, has great odds, and pays upon demand. Millennium can honestly say that there has not been one customer tossed in over a year because they were sharp. And that's a strong statement from an establishment known for the receational bettor.

ChuckSims · Nov 3, 2005

Alot of phony books out there. They will boot you if you show them an ability to pick off soft numbers. Some will just boot you because you won right away. The real books like Pinnacle...WSEX...Olympic...CRIS, you have no worries.

MillenniumSportsbook · Nov 3, 2005

Chuck Sims said:
Alot of phony books out there. They will boot you if you show them an ability to pick off soft numbers. Some will just boot you because you won right away. The real books like Pinnacle...WSEX...Olympic...CRIS, you have no worries.

I love to see you, Chucky, back in the fold at Betmill. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised....and I think they'll give you the $150 that you claimed was lost (probably in the software changeover).

Revere14 · Nov 3, 2005

Serious Reply

The following books should not bother you at all for winning:
5 Dimes
777rock
Betfair
Bluegrass
Bowmans
Cascade/Del Mar
Grande
IIS
Matchbook
Olympic
Pinnacle
Rio/Click&Bet/Skybook
Tradesports

The following books WILL cut your limits if you win:
ABC/Jazz/Looselines
Bet365
Canbet
Carib
CRIS
Intertops
Jamaica
Royal
V-Wager
Vietbet
Wagerstreet
WSEX
WWTS

The following books WILL boot you if you win:
BetOnSports/Gibraltar/Millennium
Bodog
Heritage
Las Palmas
Legendz
SportsInteraction
VIP/Gameday

Revere14

MillenniumSportsbook · Nov 3, 2005

Revere14 said:
The following books should not bother you at all for winning:
5 Dimes
777rock
Betfair
Bluegrass
Bowmans
Cascade/Del Mar
Grande
IIS
Matchbook
Olympic
Pinnacle
Rio/Click&Bet/Skybook
Tradesports

The following books WILL cut your limits if you win:
ABC/Jazz/Looselines
Bet365
Canbet
Carib
CRIS
Intertops
Jamaica
Royal
V-Wager
Vietbet
Wagerstreet
WSEX
WWTS

The following books WILL boot you if you win:
BetOnSports/Gibraltar/Millennium
Bodog
Heritage
Las Palmas
Legendz
SportsInteraction
VIP/Gameday

Revere14

Name me one client booted in the last year for winning and I'll see that Betmill gives you a $500 funded account with a 3X rollover with no strings attached. Bonus limitations yes, reload bonus limitations yes, betting limits yes, but the boot ....no!

earl · Nov 3, 2005

revere - for the most part i know that your list is very very acurate from my experience.... as for you betmill, what a great endorsement, we won't boot you but we will tighten the hell out of the screws on you, no thanks!

Salain · Nov 3, 2005

Thanks a lot for the info guys, very helpful.

Halifax · Nov 4, 2005

Millennium Sportsbook * said:
Name me one client booted in the last year for winning and I'll see that Betmill gives you a $500 funded account with a 3X rollover with no strings attached. Bonus limitations yes, reload bonus limitations yes, betting limits yes, but the boot ....no!

How low have you reduced limits to in the past year, and how low does someone's limits need to be reduced to before these low limits become a de facto "boot".

If someone who originally started with $1,000 limits had their limits cut to $500, or even $250, I could buy your statement that you haven't booted anyone.

But, if someone starts out with $1,000 limits, and you drop their limits down to $50 ... then you can't really claim that you haven't booted anyone, because basically, by dropping their limits to $50, you HAVE effectively booted them.

PanchoSanza · Nov 4, 2005

Millennium Sportsbook * said:
Name me one client booted in the last year for winning and I'll see that Betmill gives you a $500 funded account with a 3X rollover with no strings attached. Bonus limitations yes, reload bonus limitations yes, betting limits yes, but the boot ....no!

I was booted from your book, they said I bet too many 2nd halfs as opposed to full game lines.

And I aint giving you my name, you can keep your $500

poopah · Nov 4, 2005

Any book that limits your action to less than $500 is pretty much booting you in my opinion. I have had my limits cut to $300 from a couple of big books and to me that is no different than booting a player. Also asking a player that they are not allowed to bet online, and that they have to call in all their action is BS.

ChuckSims · Nov 4, 2005

Millennium Sportsbook * said:
I love to see you, Chucky, back in the fold at Betmill. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised....and I think they'll give you the $150 that you claimed was lost (probably in the software changeover).

This is the first I have heard of a software change over being the cause of my account with the money being wiped clean.

Question: Will your website state that a 2-team teaser involving a loss & push is graded "no action"? Is that "no action" grade for 2-team basketball teasers too?

assassin · Nov 4, 2005

Never had a problem when I played with large books.

Smaller (at least reputation wide books) will lower your limits when you beat them on soft number consistently:

Sportbet (lower limits, promotions)
Royal (prop limits lowered 90% to $50 and required to call in)
V-Wager (baseball props limits "undefined" neaning you need to guess at your limit game by game)
Linewiz- give you da boot

MillenniumSportsbook · Nov 4, 2005

Chuck Sims said:
This is the first I have heard of a software change over being the cause of my account with the money being wiped clean.

Question: Will your website state that a 2-team teaser involving a loss & push is graded "no action"? Is that "no action" grade for 2-team basketball teasers too?

Only applies to Football or Football "mixed" teasers with baskets. Chucky...why don't you send Wilheim your account number and Betmill will load your account with the $150 you claim that you're owed, plus they'll drop an additional $200 into your account for your past troubles at a 3X rollover, no strings attached. If you're not happy at the end of all that, just ask for a payout and we'll all go on with our lives. I think you might have a change of heart.

mson · Nov 4, 2005

some will

some will not, it starts with lower limits.

GoHogsAR · Nov 4, 2005

Revere14 said:
The following books WILL boot you if you win:
BetOnSports/Gibraltar/Millennium
Bodog
Heritage
Las Palmas
Legendz
SportsInteraction
VIP/Gameday

Either I'm very fortunate or you have bad information, because Bodog hasn't blinked at a payout request of mine yet nor have they cut me off.