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Many people think socialism is an extreme philosophy. It speaks volumes about the rottenness of capitalist society that ideas of equality, of organising and democratically controlling the economy to eliminate poverty, and to remove the sources of exploitation and oppression, are considered radical.


Compare our ideas to those who seek to defend capitalism. What is justifiable about their world view? Capitalism is about the tiny minority who own or control large amounts of capital – CEOs, bankers, billionaires – increasing their capital by making profits. And there are profits to be made from war, destroying the planet, driving down wages, and backing the repressive regimes that let corporations do such things.


Capitalism today is rapidly creating an environmental disaster that may ultimately threaten the viability of life on this earth. The scientific community has been reporting for decades about the threat of climate change. Yet the governments of the world have failed to reduce carbon emissions. The fossil fuel energy sector is one of the world’s most profitable. As energy demand increases, energy prices and profits increase. Ruling classes are not willing to give up these profits and write-off the trillions of dollars they have invested in this sector - the planet and its people be damned!


Even if the resulting floods and bushfires do not claim your life, if you live in Gaza, Iraq or Afghanistan, war might. War is an essential part of capitalist business. Not only because the arms industry is profitable, but because the richer nations on earth are competing for influence, resources and markets for their goods. The major corporations of large powers like the US rely on their state to secure access to natural resources like oil, to pry open access to markets for their goods, and to ensure "stability" so they can continue to control strategic regions or to exploit cheap labour. The US’s status as the richest and most powerful nation was not achieved or maintained through peaceful means. T he US has militarily attacked or invaded more countries since World War II than any other nation in world history in a comparable timeframe.


Capitalism also involves economic violence. There is an ever-widening gulf between rich and poor. Decade after decade, poverty figures from the third world get worse. 880 million children lived in poverty in 1996; by 2006 the figure had topped 1 billion. So much for the idea of a “trickle-down effect” where letting the rich enrich themselves further on the free market will result in wealth filtering down to rest of us!


At the beginning of 2011, global food prices reached an all-time high. The market is now pricing more people out of basic nutrients than ever before. The food crisis (which is not caused by an inability to produce food, but rather by market forces) has now helped to provoke a wave of revolutionary strikes and protests in Tunisia and Egypt. This confirms what socialists have long argued: that the crises and deprivations of the system will ultimately provoke powerful mass movements of workers and the oppressed.


Importantly, the process of increasing wealth disparity has been occurring in the richer nations as well. So in the US, real median incomes for working age families fell by over 8 per cent between 2000 and 2009. Even as the Great Recession continued unabated, executive payouts for Wall Street bankers reached a record level $US135 billion last year. The ruling class views the current economic crisis as an opportunity to accelerate their class war on workers. So at the behest of the Internaional Monetary Fund and European Union, the Greek government eliminated the 13th and 14th month annual bonus to public sector workers, plus cut their pay by 7–11 per cent, raised taxes and cut pensions by 55 per cent! Austerity measures – cuts to public spending – are occurring throughout Europe and North America.


Socialists have always recognised that you cannot understand capitalism at all unless you first understand that it is a class society. That is, a wealthy minority class rules, and a majority subordinate class is exploited. The profits that the capitalist ruling class so fiercely covet do not fall from the sky. They come from exploiting the labour of the working class majority – millions of workers in Canada, and billions globally.


Capitalists profits grow the more they hold down our wages, the more they force us to work harder and perform more unpaid overtime. They can do all this better if they are able to weaken our trade unions, organisations that try to improve the wages and conditions of workers. The Harper government with a majority legislates back to work any group who challenge this – like the postal workers.


The control that the ruling class has over the economy gives them power over us. Work under capitalism is experienced as a dictatorship. We do not elect our employers or managers – no media worker voted to have Murdoch own much of the world’s press. Instead the bosses get to select from among us who will even get to have a livelihood and who will suffer unemployment. The capitalists make all the decisions about what will be produced, where and how it will be produced.


The social and economic power that the capitalists have over the majority of workers is then translated into political power for the rich. Most of the world’s population do not even have the political rights afforded by liberal democracies. Two examples are China, the fast-growing capitalist power where most of the clothes and electronic goods we own are made on behalf of large corporations, and Egypt where the vile Mubarak dictatorship ruled for 30 years with the support of Western interests and a super-rich local elite.


It would be absurd, however, to say that the so-called liberal democracies like the US and Canada are governed by the democratic wishes of the majority. Governments the world over are committed to the profit-driven logic of capitalism. Governments seek to ensure that those with the power to make or withhold investments are kept satisfied. The entire Obama administration puts paid to the myth of capitalist democracy. People voted for change, but have gotten more unemployment, more housing evictions, cuts to Medicaid, more troops to Afghanistan and an extension of Bush’s tax cuts to the richest one per cent of Americans.


Given what capitalism means for the world, we should be proud to oppose this order. Socialists stand for the mass of working people taking control of the schools, hospitals, factories, mines and offices in which we work, and reorganising the economy to meet human need. It has been true for decades that modern society has the technological and productive capacity to provide everyone with food, shelter, healthcare, clean electricity, clean water, education and all of rest of life’s wants and needs. Just imagine how productive society could be if we stopped spending such vast sums on war and on advertising, and involved everyone capable of working in the work process, rather than condemning large minorities of the population to unemployment. This type of society, that we call socialism, has nothing in common with the state capitalist regimes that existed in Stalin’s Russia, Mao’s China, or in Vietnam today. These are vile class societies just like in West where workers are dictated to and exploited by a minority.


The capitalist class tries to dragoon people into accepting their system by asserting that there is no alternative. They pretend that we need them and their schemes for profit. But we do not need them, they need us. All of the useful labour in society is conducted by workers – all of the agriculture and manufacturing, the construction of buildings and roads, electricity production, transport and so on. None of this is possible without workers. The bosses on the other hand do none of this activity, they simply profit from the labour of others.


Here lies the great weakness of the ruling class. Their system relies on our labour. This is why workers’ strikes are the most powerful weapon for fighting the ruling class. Strikes have been essential parts of winning equal pay for women, in ending apartheid, in winning the eight-hour day and other gains.


But more than this, when working people defy the orders of the ruling class by taking mass collective action in the workplaces and on the streets, we can break even the most tyrannical of regimes. This fact has been repeatedly proven from Russia in 1917 to Egypt and Tunisia in 2011. And it is when workers set up their own democratic institutions and move to replace the old state machine that we can set about reorganising society for everyone’s benefit.


Being a socialist is about more than acknowledging that the world could be better. It is certainly not about sitting around and waiting for a revolution. Socialists are always the ones trying to campaign against injustice. We demonstrate in solidarity with the oppressed people of Palestine or the innocent refugees cruelly locked up in Canadian detention centres, organise in our unions to improve working conditions and get involved in struggles for a better world whenever we can. If there were more of us, these struggles would be all the more effective. We think that the system to today is unacceptable in so many ways – and it is just as unacceptable to sit back and do nothing.


Mainstream politics under capitalism is a cesspool. Politicians are incapable of doing anything but cutting social spending, cutting corporate taxes, and then blaming refugees for somehow “threatening our way of life”. We need more organised socialists today to stand up to these political lackeys of the rich and to begin organising more resistance to their system.

Adapted with permission from Socialist Alternative (Australia).


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I'm guessing you didn't write this, so I'm not going to go through and explain how wrong this is.

I would like to ask a question: If socialism works so well, why do you need to force everyone to do it? Why not just get some like minded individuals, form your own socialist community, and let everyone freely join when they see how superior it is?

If it worked so well to eliminate poverty, you would see people in poverty forming socialist contracts with each other and get out of it. The fact they won't tells me 1 of 2 things: either they're too lazy to work, or they realize they won't get what they want out of it.
 

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I'm guessing you didn't write this, so I'm not going to go through and explain how wrong this is.

I would like to ask a question: If socialism works so well, why do you need to force everyone to do it? Why not just get some like minded individuals, form your own socialist community, and let everyone freely join when they see how superior it is?

If it worked so well to eliminate poverty, you would see people in poverty forming socialist contracts with each other and get out of it. The fact they won't tells me 1 of 2 things: either they're too lazy to work, or they realize they won't get what they want out of it.

Well first off you don't have to force everyone to do It. I'm not really sure what you mean by that. I'm not talking about some bs Soviet Union totalitarian set up.

And your second idea is beyond belief. How exactly are they going to establish a socialist community in the United States ? I know their are groups who live off the land in communes but that is not practical for large populations. So poor people in the us who are struggling to survive are supposedly to magically make their own socialist societies and get out of poverty ?
 

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It's just beyond belief that the wealthy have armies of people willing to defend their lavish living and praise the current system. We have people supporting some people starving to death and unable to get medical attention while others are worth millions of dollars.
 

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Well first off you don't have to force everyone to do It. I'm not really sure what you mean by that. I'm not talking about some bs Soviet Union totalitarian set up.

And your second idea is beyond belief. How exactly are they going to establish a socialist community in the United States ? I know their are groups who live off the land in communes but that is not practical for large populations. So poor people in the us who are struggling to survive are supposedly to magically make their own socialist societies and get out of poverty ?
You forcing everyone to do it. I don't want politicians running my health care and paying for it. If it passes, I have no choice.

There aren't any like minded individuals that you can work with? If you and some of your friends are impoverished you can't all get jobs, pool the money and get out of poverty?
 

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You forcing everyone to do it. I don't want politicians running my health care and paying for it. If it passes, I have no choice.

There aren't any like minded individuals that you can work with? If you and some of your friends are impoverished you can't all get jobs, pool the money and get out of poverty?

well yeah small groups of people could attempt to do things like that on a small scale I guess. It's still hard to really accomplish anything in a capitalist society.

And once again. Unless you live in some anarchist type society there is certain laws in every nation. So you're issue about forcing things is a worldwide issue. Capitalist societies are no different. You're already paying taxes for certain things and universal health care is paid with those taxes. Your healthcare decisions are your own to make
 

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well yeah small groups of people could attempt to do things like that on a small scale I guess. It's still hard to really accomplish anything in a capitalist society.

And once again. Unless you live in some anarchist type society there is certain laws in every nation. So you're issue about forcing things is a worldwide issue. Capitalist societies are no different. You're already paying taxes for certain things and universal health care is paid with those taxes. Your healthcare decisions are your own to make
But they're not! Why? Again, I can only see 2 reasons, they're too lazy, or they realize they won't have the playing field tilted in their favor as much as they want.

Why not just create your own non for profit healthcare program? People could pay what they could and never have to worry about your medical bills. Every person paying could have a vote on who runs the program, and since lefties love politicians so much, they could get former politicians like Bill Clinton or Al Gore to run everything.
 

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But they're not! Why? Again, I can only see 2 reasons, they're too lazy, or they realize they won't have the playing field tilted in their favor as much as they want.

Why not just create your own non for profit healthcare program? People could pay what they could and never have to worry about your medical bills. Every person paying could have a vote on who runs the program, and since lefties love politicians so much, they could get former politicians like Bill Clinton or Al Gore to run everything.

they're too poor to pay for their own healthcare. The fact that people like you think humans should be financially responsible for their own well being speaks volumes about humans in a capitalist society. If you don't have enough money you should just die.

If you think that charitable organizations by themselves can bridge the gap you're nuts.

current mixed economy countries dominate the human development index ratings
 

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But they're not! Why? Again, I can only see 2 reasons, they're too lazy, or they realize they won't have the playing field tilted in their favor as much as they want.

Why not just create your own non for profit healthcare program? People could pay what they could and never have to worry about your medical bills. Every person paying could have a vote on who runs the program, and since lefties love politicians so much, they could get former politicians like Bill Clinton or Al Gore to run everything.
not to mention most people in countries like the us don't even know what socialism is or that it's some evil soviet union type set up
 

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they're too poor to pay for their own healthcare. The fact that people like you think humans should be financially responsible for their own well being speaks volumes about humans in a capitalist society. If you don't have enough money you should just die.

If you think that charitable organizations by themselves can bridge the gap you're nuts.

current mixed economy countries dominate the human development index ratings

That's the point of having a voluntary non for profit healthcare system! All those true socialists like yourself, and all the rich socialist entertainers and politicians, would pay extra to see those poor people now have healthcare! Your second and third sentences just crazy. You should be able to produce enough to offset what you consume, unless someone will voluntarily take care of you. My belief in that principle is due to the fact that a society can't consume more than it produces. Ultimately, someone will have to be responsible for themselves and many others whether they want to or not in your system.

As a resident of America, and I'm guessing full time employed, you're one of the richest people in the world. Do you think your taxes should be raised to pay for a better life for people in 3rd world countries, or are you one of those socialists that only likes socialism when you get more benefits for the same amount of work, but hates it when you get less benefits for the same amount of work?

The places with the greatest increase in the standard of living of their average resident since WWII are the places with the freest economies.
 

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not to mention most people in countries like the us don't even know what socialism is or that it's some evil soviet union type set up
Then explain it. Is it no one having to be financially responsible for themselves?
 

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Then explain it. Is it no one having to be financially responsible for themselves?
haha. No. It's not a free ticket to sit at home and do nothing.
Obviously it will take a long time for me to fully explain socialism as there is a lot of varying opinions and varying levels of it.

for example most European counties are half capitalist half socialist or what they call mixed economy countries.
The basic end game would be for no one in a society to be in poverty
 

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That's the point of having a voluntary non for profit healthcare system! All those true socialists like yourself, and all the rich socialist entertainers and politicians, would pay extra to see those poor people now have healthcare! Your second and third sentences just crazy. You should be able to produce enough to offset what you consume, unless someone will voluntarily take care of you. My belief in that principle is due to the fact that a society can't consume more than it produces. Ultimately, someone will have to be responsible for themselves and many others whether they want to or not in your system.

As a resident of America, and I'm guessing full time employed, you're one of the richest people in the world. Do you think your taxes should be raised to pay for a better life for people in 3rd world countries, or are you one of those socialists that only likes socialism when you get more benefits for the same amount of work, but hates it when you get less benefits for the same amount of work?

The places with the greatest increase in the standard of living of their average resident since WWII are the places with the freest economies.

The last statistic is actually incorrect.
 

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That's the point of having a voluntary non for profit healthcare system! All those true socialists like yourself, and all the rich socialist entertainers and politicians, would pay extra to see those poor people now have healthcare! Your second and third sentences just crazy. You should be able to produce enough to offset what you consume, unless someone will voluntarily take care of you. My belief in that principle is due to the fact that a society can't consume more than it produces. Ultimately, someone will have to be responsible for themselves and many others whether they want to or not in your system.

As a resident of America, and I'm guessing full time employed, you're one of the richest people in the world. Do you think your taxes should be raised to pay for a better life for people in 3rd world countries, or are you one of those socialists that only likes socialism when you get more benefits for the same amount of work, but hates it when you get less benefits for the same amount of work?

The places with the greatest increase in the standard of living of their average resident since WWII are the places with the freest economies.

And yes I'm willing to pay much higher taxes to support programs
 

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haha. No. It's not a free ticket to sit at home and do nothing.
Obviously it will take a long time for me to fully explain socialism as there is a lot of varying opinions and varying levels of it.

for example most European counties are half capitalist half socialist or what they call mixed economy countries.
The basic end game would be for no one in a society to be in poverty
You've got time. Feel like responding to post #10?

I live in Vegas, and I meet people from all over the world every week. Whenever I meet someone from a Nordic country, I always ask them about their healthcare system. You do get the occasional gushing review of how great it is since everyone is covered, but I don't typically get the glowing review that you hear from American socialists. I usually get told that it's good, since everyone is covered, but it makes everything so much more expensive (some of the most expensive places to live in the world are Nordic countries), the looming demographic issues with an aging population, even people saying that the system is going down hill since they've let in so many poor immigrants who can't offset their cost on society. There is a lot of abuse in those systems, as people take advantage of them so just sit home and do nothing.

And, if you live there, you WILL pay into that system whether you like it or not, which is my main question, if your system works so well, why must you force me to participate?
 

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Not to mention that the earth literally can't support capitalism continuing to be the dominant economic style.
 

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You've got time. Feel like responding to post #10?

I live in Vegas, and I meet people from all over the world every week. Whenever I meet someone from a Nordic country, I always ask them about their healthcare system. You do get the occasional gushing review of how great it is since everyone is covered, but I don't typically get the glowing review that you hear from American socialists. I usually get told that it's good, since everyone is covered, but it makes everything so much more expensive (some of the most expensive places to live in the world are Nordic countries), the looming demographic issues with an aging population, even people saying that the system is going down hill since they've let in so many poor immigrants who can't offset their cost on society. There is a lot of abuse in those systems, as people take advantage of them so just sit home and do nothing.

And, if you live there, you WILL pay into that system whether you like it or not, which is my main question, if your system works so well, why must you force me to participate?

yes you talking to people from Nordic countries in Vegas just debunked everything. The European health care systems are rated the best in the world by the WHO. there is no debating that they have a superior set up to here in the us. Those same Nordic countries that are just ravaged with their mixed economies continue to dominant the human development index. It's funny that it works that way
 

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