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'Why not Texit?': Texas nationalists look to the Brexit vote for inspiration

Shortly after Obama’s re-election, the White House was forced to respond to a Texit petition that garnered more than 125,000 votes. The answer was no.

Sunday 19 June 2016 12.00 BSTLast modified on Sunday 19 June 201612.01 BST

How closely is Daniel Miller tracking the news ahead of the referendum about whether Britain should leave the European Union? “Hourly!” he grins.

The Sun’s recent editorial calling for the UK’s departure got him quite excited.

Miller, though, is not from London or Liverpool. He hails from Longview, Texas, and we are talking in a cafe in the bleakly industrial Gulf coast town of Port Arthur, some 5,000 miles from Westminster.

Culturally, too, we are a long way from Europe. Heck, we are even a long way from Dallas. But the referendum matters deeply to Miller and like-minded Texans. As the president of the Texas Nationalist Movement, which wants Texas to secede from the United States, he is hoping for a Leave vote that he believes will ripple all the way from Austria to Austin.

“There are a lot of people asking, if Brexit why not Texit?” he says. “I do talk with some folks over there on a pretty regular basis that are involved in Ukip and the Conservative party.”

The night before we met, Miller addressed a local Tea Party group, drawing parallels between Brexit and Texit, which the TNM is pushing as a hashtag. In Miller’s telling, Britain’s relationship with Europe was a marriage of convenience between ill-suited partners that has become stormy and ripe for divorce on grounds of irreconcilable differences, with too much sovereignty ceded to an ineffective central bureaucracy and too much hard-earned money sent elsewhere.

Daniel Miller wants to take off the shackles he says the federal government has placed on Texas. Photograph: Alamy Stock Photo“Sound familiar?” he asked the audience. “Nigel Farage, you guys ever heard of him? Look him up on YouTube – trust me, you will enjoy.”

Added to the near-miss of Scottish independence in 2014, a vote for Brexit on 23 June, Miller tells me, “only helps our case because there is a concrete first world example of a modern democracy having a legitimate and public debate where the people of a country, not the political class, get to vote on how they govern themselves and that will resonate not just through Europe but here as well”.

The arguments are fundamentally identical, he insists. “You could take ‘Britain’ out and replace it with ‘Texas’. You could take ‘EU’ out and replace it with ‘US’. You could take ‘Brussels’ out and replace it with ‘Washington DC’. You could give you guys a nice Texas drawl and no one would know any different. So much of it is exactly the same.”

The TNM, based in this humid corner of south-east Texas near the Louisiana border, is the most prominent and best organised of the groups that want the Lone Star state to go it alone, and plausibly asserts that the issue is growing in popularity and gathering more mainstream credibility (or at least, less mainstream ridicule).

Miller, 42, is a polished advocate who grew up in a politically active household and became frustrated by what he sees as the shackles of a federal government that are stopping Texas from reaching its full potential.

Buoyed by the rearguard action at the battle of the Alamo, Texas toiled to free itself from Mexican rule and was an independent nation from 1836 to 1845. But its fiercely solitary spirit did not fade when it became part of the union. Texas Independence Day, 2 March, is still an annual state holiday. In 2003 a state law was passed requiring schoolchildren to pledge allegiance daily to the Texas flag as well as the US flag.

“We come from a heritage of people that carved an empire out of a wilderness. The fact of the matter is that Texas has always been rough. When people first moved to Texas and settled here, you were independent or you died,” Miller says.

In 1997 a member of a separatist group, the Republic of Texas, was killed in a shootout with police after a standoff in the mountains of west Texas.

The current body calling itself the Republic of Texas believes that Texas never actually ceded its sovereignty to the United States when it joined the union (some prefer the term annexed) in 1845. “The great deception can be undone – stay tuned,” their website states. They run a parallel system of government, with Republic of Texas identity cards and coins.

The TNM, meanwhile, seeks secession through political avenues and calls for the people of Texas to decide via a referendum. Miller claims that the group has 260,000 supporters. It has fans in Russia among mischief-makers who would relish the break-up of the United States.

It also has advocates in the Texas Republican party, even though removing one of the biggest and most reliably red states from the US would make it far easier for the Democrats to win presidential elections.

Shortly after Obama’s re-election, the White House was forced to respond to a Texit petition that garnered more than 125,000 votes. The answer was no.

Another petition drive last year to put the matter to a non-binding vote did not gather enough signatures, but secession was debated at the party convention in Dallas last month, a notable moment even though it narrowly failed to make it to a floor vote.

Jeff Sadighi, a TNM backer, wants “Texas solutions” on hot-button issues such as gun rights, marriage equality and, perhaps above all, immigration and border control. “The bottom line is, the federal government due to their legal structures can only offer one size fits all solutions,” the 54-year-old says. “People in Massachusetts aren’t going to approach challenges the same way we are.”

What would the country of Texas be like? “I don’t think we’ll have checkpoints at the border with Louisiana,” Miller deadpans. “Trump may have to move his wall a little further north.”

There are no plans for rival flotillas to clash along the Rio Grande or the bayous of Houston.

But as efforts to lobby Texas lawmakers to put the matter to a vote continue ahead of next year’s legislative session, Miller is eagerly awaiting this month’s verdict in what he sees as a kindred nation.

“At a cultural and spiritual level there are a lot of similarities. A fiercely independent spirit. Keep calm and carry on. The stoicism. There’s a sense that when you’re pushed, you don’t just crumple like yesterday’s newspaper, you stand up for what you believe in,” he says. “We are easygoing, we are friendly, but when our core values and principles are threatened, we don’t take kindly to it.”
 

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Take the federal taxes taken from its citizens and put it back into the state...abolish bullshit welfare by making them work at some capacity....Texas would be the wealthiest nation in the world.
 

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Trade oil and refineries with assholes such as California and rake them over the coals.
 

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I'm pretty sure you would get support from several other states including MS and hopefully LA. Alabama, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina sure would make a nice new world.
 

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The Lincoln Republicans would be against it, but I can't imagine anyone else would be. It would be great if they could make it happen. When will it be put up for a vote?
 

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Of course we would have to put the Dakotas and Midwest in their too.

Then we could invade the North and kick all of the welfare supporting socialist loser liberals out and send them to Mexico.
 

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Dakotas are nothing like Texas. If we're breaking up the country, North and South Dakota are with Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, Colorado, Washington, Oregon and Alaska: The wide open nature and woods states. California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico form the desert states, along with Hawaii. Texas is obviously it's own country. Nebraska, Kansas, Iowa, Missouri are the corn/plains states. The rest would be broken up into Northeast, Southern, and Big Ten countries. If we did that and built walls along all the borders the vast majority of us would be better off.
 

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Dakotas are nothing like Texas. If we're breaking up the country, North and South Dakota are with Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, Colorado, Washington, Oregon and Alaska: The wide open nature and woods states. California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico form the desert states, along with Hawaii. Texas is obviously it's own country. Nebraska, Kansas, Iowa, Missouri are the corn/plains states. The rest would be broken up into Northeast, Southern, and Big Ten countries. If we did that and built walls along all the borders the vast majority of us would be better off.

The Dakotas are arguably more red than Texas and Washington and Oregon are as loony left as NY and CA.

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A state where 23 percent think Obama is a Muslim, bunch of drunks yelling racist comments.....not to mention the state that gave us the Bush family

see ya......get the fuck out. Nobody will miss you byebye)(&^
 

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A state where 23 percent think Obama is a Muslim, bunch of drunks yelling racist comments.....not to mention the state that gave us the Bush family

see ya......get the fuck out. Nobody will miss you byebye)(&^
If Texas leaves, you'll see a mass exodus of states out of the country.
 

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Never gonna happen.

It WILL happen. All it takes is ONE state to get the ball rolling.

80% of the country (minus NY, CA, MA, OR and a few other loopy socialist states) are completely fed up with your party and ideology.
 

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It WILL happen. All it takes is ONE state to get the ball rolling.

80% of the country (minus NY, CA, MA, OR and a few other loopy socialist states) are completely fed up with your party and ideology.

All your outlandish predictions of what WILL happen....NEVER happen

Just st like your bombshell birther news that never happened. Just like your Fred Thompson prediction that never happened. The list is endless.
 

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The Dakotas are arguably more red than Texas and Washington and Oregon are as loony left as NY and CA.

Political leanings represent a very small part of a communities culture. But if most of our country is as small minding as you are we could instead make California, Oregon, Washington, Alaska and Hawaii one country, with Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, and Colorado another to appeal to voters. That leaves Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, North and South Dakota on their own.
 

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Why Americans are increasingly fed up with the Big Government party and its arrogant dictates from Washington, DC:

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All your outlandish predictions of what WILL happen....NEVER happen

Just st like your bombshell birther news that never happened. Just like your Fred Thompson prediction that never happened. The list is endless.

You are praying the conservative states never leave the union...all of your fucking welfare leaching scrubs would be fucked and you governments would collapse.

And before you get into "there are welfare people in those states too", I assure you those people will be reevaluated, assessed and recommended for what type of work they are capable of to keep their free bees. Once they are determined they get no more, and how much they can still get from liberal loserville, they would move there straining your economies even more until collapse.....OH WAIT...I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING! This is exactly what Obama is doing to our economy.
 

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You are praying the conservative states never leave the union...all of your fucking welfare leaching scrubs would be fucked and you governments would collapse.

And before you get into "there are welfare people in those states too", I assure you those people will be reevaluated, assessed and recommended for what type of work they are capable of to keep their free bees. Once they are determined they get no more, and how much they can still get from liberal loserville, they would move there straining your economies even more until collapse.....OH WAIT...I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING! This is exactly what Obama is doing to our economy.

Yeah, I'm sure all these rich red states will function well with everybody chasing the same nickel. The state will fall into classes and then will create its own welfare system. Don't just dismiss that conservative states have welfare people as well. Lots of fucking idiots in that state.....they will go with the rest.
 

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