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Months After Plant Closed, Many Still Struggling


It has been 10 months since most of the workers walked out of the plain, low-slung factory here for the final time. The building, which had been home to the Manchester Tool Company since just after World War II, sits dormant now, a “for sale or lease” sign in front, buried recently in a fresh snowfall.
But the fallout of the plant’s closure last year by Kennametal, a global conglomerate based in Latrobe, Pa., just a few months into the recession, continues to weigh heavily on the lives of the roughly 100 employees who lost their livelihoods.
“Some of us bounced back,” said Bill Luplow, 66, who worked on the shop floor of the industrial tool-making plant for nearly 45 years. “And some of us haven’t.”
In fact, an examination by The New York Times of the fates of the laid-off workers found that less than 15 percent of the hourly workers had steady jobs almost a year later.
Many of the rest are sliding perilously close to the economic precipice. Some let their health insurance lapse; others are in danger of losing their modest homes. A similar experience — or worse — may lie ahead for the hundreds of thousands of Americans who continue to lose their jobs every month.
Age seems to have played a role in the outcome for the Manchester employees. Many of the older hourly workers, some of whom had worked at the plant since graduating from high school, appear paralyzed, struggling with their self-confidence as they consider their bleak odds of finding work.
The machines they worked with at Manchester tended to be specific to that plant, and the skills to run them were not necessarily transferable. Many have resisted retraining, deciding it did not make sense. A few who tried found it too daunting.
At least seven mostly younger workers, on the other hand, decided to take advantage of federal grants to go back to school.
With more education and skills, the approximately 35 salaried employees at Manchester, including engineers, accountants and other office workers, appear to have fared better than their hourly counterparts. About a third were asked to stay on at least several more months with Kennametal; several remain with the company. In all, some 40 percent of them appear to be earning a regular paycheck, according to interviews.
Among the hourly workers, at least four who did manage to find jobs were laid off a second time recently because of the slowing economy. Even the lucky few who are still working typically found they had to accept a significant decrease in pay.
Unemployment insurance has proved to be a critical bridge for those who remain jobless. But the regular checks also prevented many from considering lower-paying jobs, once they calculated that they would be earning roughly the same amount.
Nonetheless, it is slowly sinking in that the middle-class lives they constructed at Manchester, in this suburb of Akron, may now be slipping from their grasp.
“I think it’s gone forever for a lot of people,” said John Foss, 50, who worked at the plant for 13 years, most recently as a stockroom clerk, and remains jobless.
Around the nation, 3.6 million jobs have been lost since the recession began in December 2007, including 1.1 million in manufacturing, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. A dismal report from the bureau last week showed job losses accelerating in January.
At Manchester, plant workers, represented by the United Steelworkers, earned $18 to $22 an hour, adding up to more than $50,000 a year in some cases with regular overtime. Workers averaged some 20 years on the job.
Mr. Foss, who started as a machinist at Manchester, applied for scores of jobs after his layoff, combing the newspaper and Internet and dropping in on employers to fill out applications. He has not heard back from anyone.
A job search he initially thought might take a few weeks has stretched into its 11th month. And his initial hopes of landing a job that paid close to the $18.12 an hour he used to make have faded. He now believes $8 to $12 an hour is more likely.
“Some days are worse than others,” Mr. Foss said. “Sometimes depression takes over more than other times.”
The balm for Mr. Foss has been that his wife, Marie, is still working as an office manager at a printing company, enabling them to cover their bills for now. Mrs. Foss has been screwing up her courage to ask her customers if they are hiring. One called her back recently and said he might have some openings this month, lifting her spirits.
“Today was a good day,” she said. “At least it was something to hope on.”
 

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When your corperations pay the 2nd highest tax rate in the world, business is going to dry up and it has been doing so for a long time now. This however is what happens when you try to tax your way into prosperity. Ed Rendell is a cocksucking prick who doesnt have a clue on how to balance his checkbook much less the states. Hes a fucking disgrace. Once again Kiln, you are talking about something you have no idea what it is. This is 100 people, but too many people like this are forced to start all over because of stupid taxes set by the state. "Even the lucky few who are still working typically found they had to accept a significant decrease in pay." And why is this? Because this state is being ran by a fiscal liberal who is carrying on a fist fucking of the entire state. Next time do a little research before you make an ignorant post you fucking grape picking softy.
 

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Corp tax is high but why pay it? by end of the fiscal year corp should have spent toward capital improvements, expansion, bonuses and the rest is returned as stockholder dividends.
 

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Rendell is a joke...we have probably the most significant find in PA history, the Marcellus Shale, and he's already found a way to tax the hell out of the production which hasn't even started yet.
He's a total cvnt but thankfully out of office in a year, though he will try to double PA state income tax before he leaves.

lovely post Kiln...again showing your complete lack of real world knowledge. Kennametal happen to be a client of mine and their demise cuts deep through many businesses, not just the 100 employees cited in your meaningless article. You really just don't get it kid
 

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Corp tax is high but why pay it? by end of the fiscal year corp should have spent toward capital improvements, expansion, bonuses and the rest is returned as stockholder dividends.

Sure Punter, all the mass exodus is by publicly traded companies. :ohno:

Its these small businesses are the ones being drove out not the big businesses. Problem though is that more people work for small business then big business, so your post doesnt work here in this situation.
 

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Sure Punter, all the mass exodus is by publicly traded companies. :ohno:

Its these small businesses are the ones being drove out not the big businesses. Problem though is that more people work for small business then big business, so your post doesnt work here in this situation.

Small business can incorporate we have a corporation and there are basically 2 of us.

Only the corp tax is high (and that is by design) partnerships and sole proprietorships taxes are not that bad.

The reason for corporate flight are labor and special tax incentives.
ie: the clothing mfg have moved to the Orient so countries like Poland are giving incentives to other mfg to move in and take their place.
 

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Sounds to me, if I'm reading most of the responses correctly, that telling someone without a job to get off their ass and find one isn't much of a solution. Hmmmmm.

And gosh, feltchisrhsm, you really kiss your daddy with that mouth? For shame, for shame.
 

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Sounds to me, if I'm reading most of the responses correctly, that telling someone without a job to get off their ass and find one isn't much of a solution. Hmmmmm.

When living in a Socialist Society having a job is not necessarily a necessity. Hmmmmm
 

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When your corperations pay the 2nd highest tax rate in the world, business is going to dry up and it has been doing so for a long time now. This however is what happens when you try to tax your way into prosperity. Ed Rendell is a cocksucking prick who doesnt have a clue on how to balance his checkbook much less the states. Hes a fucking disgrace. Once again Kiln, you are talking about something you have no idea what it is. This is 100 people, but too many people like this are forced to start all over because of stupid taxes set by the state. "Even the lucky few who are still working typically found they had to accept a significant decrease in pay." And why is this? Because this state is being ran by a fiscal liberal who is carrying on a fist fucking of the entire state. Next time do a little research before you make an ignorant post you fucking grape picking.
exactly! rendell was a nut hair away from being kerry's running mate in 2004, and hes been screwing pa since.
 

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exactly! rendell was a nut hair away from being kerry's running mate in 2004, and hes been screwing pa since.

Se Taino, i knew you would come around babe.
 

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