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Anyone foolish enough to post information/strategies that are not widely available and that make him money is either a fool or doesn't understand that he is killing the golden goose.

For you guys who post scalps (I don't scalp myself) with the excuse " I already got down for the limit so it doesn't matter" don't realize that you are giving away books that are scalpable and future scalps will be diminished since you have introduced others to this strategy and the books that allow them to carry it out.

Other guys who post long thesis on middling, buying on off numbers are educating the squares and making the betting market place more efficient such that money making opportunites will be all but gone in a few years.

Look at the stock /options market, try to arbitrage those markets. You won't even come close.
 

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Question:
Would it be in a sharp's interest to post misleading information to generate more action on one side? Is the forum even powerful enough to have any such effect?

If it is not that powerful in moving lines, then sharing good information shouldn't make much difference either. Admittedly, the "good" information might convince more posters than misleading info. It could be like poker where the sharp player occasionally posts a "bluff".

I think a sharp player may be able to get some value from posting, but it might just not be enough to make it worth his time.

(Of course, the Touts post their picks the following day.)
 

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Here's why sharps don't post :

I consider Doc to be quite sharp.
He openly says "sorry, i can't give information that would hurt me". And he's right - without an edge we'd all lose. If he helps a little then other guys call him an asshole for not sharing all his knowledge. So he can either post "selectively" and be called an asshole, post entirely and hurt his wallett or just not post.

Doc's a cool cat & brushes the flames off, but many people are more type "A" and just won't post so they don't have to put up with the flames.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Info from squares is just as valuable it its own way<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Good point judge, someone who picks 40 % ATS is just as useful as someone who picks 60 %.
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Pancho, Areef, Judge, great posts.

Its obvious you guys know what you are talking about...
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Java, to answer your first question because it answers the rest, yes I think so...
 

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sharps..........the guys that keep books on their toes, the guys that can sometimes make bookies wish they had chosen another profession....

prefer to stay out of the limelight, their motto is "outa sight outa mind" they try not to raise red flags, when they are marked as sharp, they tread lightly...

i think that there are plenty of "educated gamblers" that post on forums.....but few sharps imo
 

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The simple truth on this matter:

1. Never forget this is entertainment and no wise person would ever try to make money from unverified info like a posting board.

2. Sharps aren't quite as sharp as people think. I know quite a few and if you told them pick me some winners from these numbers you would be hard pressed to find guys go much over 55% over a full year of different sports. What sharps do though is have innumerable outs, offshore/locals/Vegas, and that is worth a lot more value than I think almost everyone betting today realizes.

3. People have touched on it and its very true. Just who is a sharp? How do you know? You could be book manager and think this guy you got isn't all that sharp because he isn't hitting with you that much, but that is just luck involved. If a guy is betting with 10 outs, chances are pretty good that one or two will make money off of him just as a matter of luck. The others might lose more than is expected. The only real way to judge a sharp is to talk to other books and pay very close attention to what he bets on and at what price relative to other key books.

4. Not so much that sharps are worried about their info getting out, its just it serves no purpose. I knew and spent a lot of time with many of the old school sharps in Vegas and most of them would openly talk about who they played and maybe some of the reasons why. Thing is that most of us when we talked didn't even bother with that. We talked big picture, much like this site does. To people seriously involved its not really about the basics of who to bet on a given day, its about whats going on and where things are going. Don't forget that if you are a winning player you are not picking winners, you are merely investing your money in spots you think have an advantage so you need to stay out of day to day thinking that I suppose a lot of posters wish sharps would talk about.

5. The edges you think sharps have access to really aren't much of an edge. Further a lot of the info is out there for you to find. I will tell you this, once again the secret to many a sharp is discipline and having lots of outs. If a sharp said that on here, people would say "yeah yeah, but who do you like in such and such game today".

6. Lastly the number of sharps is small and they come in all shapes and forms. Some are very publicity shy and want to stay completely off the radar, for strategic or just privacy reasons. It is true, the more someone boasts about how sharp they are, the more likely they are a fraud. A sharp is just someone that does his job well. Think about it, a good cop doesn't go tell the world "damn I am a good cop", he just shows up everyday looking to make things better for his city. Sharps are much the same, they don't see value in boasting, they just concern themselves with getting the job done right. Posting boards often are such a distraction full of directionless info that it can often be more hassle than value. Once again never forget we come here first and foremost because its entertaining.
 

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wb agree #1 key to gambling is self control , decipline

how do you react when yiou lose 1, 2 in arow, 3in a row

99.99999% cant handle it( chase baby- can you say martingale)

if a square followed a sharps 60% winning, the square will still go broke with the only 40% losses

people cant handle streaks & and gambling is all about streaks &runs
 

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2. Sharps aren't quite as sharp as people think. I know quite a few and if you told them pick me some winners from these numbers you would be hard pressed to find guys go much over 55% over a full year of different sports.

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I would think a "sharp" is someone who has an area of expertise. Someone who knows one sport, like college football exclusively, far better than any other sport.
 
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good point Java if you can't manipulate the crowd, what's the point.

the amount of thiefs, crooks, wannabee geniuses and just dishonest folks such as yourself that patrol these forums is astounding.
 

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If you're ever gonna revive poster of the week, give this one to Wild Bill. Good stuff.
 

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