Why does Arizona have such bad sports teams?

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OK, I know that the Diamondbacks won the World Series in 2001 and the Rattlers are often in the championship game of the arena league, but why do so many of Arizona's teams do so poorly?

Case in point, the Coyotes were one of the NHL's worst teams last season. This year the Diamondbacks are THE worst team in MLB. And now the Cardinals are the worst team in the NFL.

The Suns haven't been top-tier since Barkley left. What gives???
 

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I've never been there, but I imagine it is hard to build a fanbase when half your population is retiring people from the North who have decades old allegiances to the teams back home.
 
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In the Cardinals' case, it's Bill Bidwell. He knows that, thanks to the NFL's lucrative broadcasting and merchandising deals, that if he just keeps salaries down then he can guarantee himself a small profit every year regardless of how poor attendance is.
 

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poor ownership and no one breathing down the owners back to get some quailty players.


You "ALMOST" have the same problem in Pittsburgh the old Rooney finally lets his younger son make some decisions and run the team but that old guy was a CHEAP bastard IMO....He let a plethora of talent leave pitt.....and im a HUGE fan but I have tell it like it is
 

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How about a smallish population base, just Phoenix really, can't compete with major metropolitan areas like NY, LA, Chi. That and a lot of old folks, illegal aliens, etc.
 

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Lots of reasons for the poor teams, but not a small population base, the Phoenix metro area is one of the fastest growing in the country.

Lack of continuity in coaching has hurt teams the last several years. The Cardinals fired two of their best coaches after each had been in Arizona less than 2 years (Stallings and Ryan). Both were somewhat successful their first year, but got canned at the first sign of a downturn. They fired Vince Tobin after 7 games in 2000 despite his having led the Cards to their only playoff win since 1947 during a surprising 10-8 1998 campaign.

Look at ASU football. The program hasn't really been a national power since the first half of the 70s, but has had its ups and downs. Larry Marmie got fired after his fourth season in 1991 despite showing improvement from the previous year (4-7 to 6-5), just because his contract was up and the boosters were restless. Bruce Snyder took ASU to an 11-0 regular season and a Rose Bowl eight years ago, and got canned in 2000 even though his team went to bowl games four of his last five years. Now the program is much weaker, but the coach Koetter (who has started worse than his predecessors at 17-20)has been guaranteed his job for 2005 no matter what happens this year (because ASU really can't afford to buy him out, having spent all that money on Snyder's buyout).

Too much looking at short term $, attendance problems and impatience with winning in the postseason has really hurt. The Coyotes were a winning franchise a few years ago, but attendance wasn't enough to justify some of their high priced players so they got traded. The Coyotes also fired two head coaches with winning records their first three years in Arizona, even though they made the playoffs each year.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> but that old guy was a CHEAP
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bastard IMO....He let a plethora of talent leave pitt..... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dante way way off base about Art Rooney!
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I hope you are not talking about NFL patriarch Art Rooney bro?
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Belch One:
In the Cardinals' case, it's Bill Bidwell. He knows that, thanks to the NFL's lucrative broadcasting and merchandising deals, that if he just keeps salaries down then he can guarantee himself a small profit every year regardless of how poor attendance is. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not to mention revenue sharing among the teams. Why produce a good team if you're going to get paid anyway? Cut salaries and still continue to make money.

I think Bidwill's son is having more of a say in the Card's decisions and as a result have gone with Denny Green to get some more wins.
 

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the 110 degree summers can't help. Tough to stay fit and motivated
 

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