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This may not apply to everybody , but if the shoe fits please wear it and chime in.

Other than MONEY , why are you a fan of an entire conference rather than just a team ? ... Now i get the money part. You want the confernce that your team plays in to have enough bowl bids that even in a down season you can still go to a bowl game. ...I get the money part and the revenue sharing , but why do people root for entire conferences.

I'm an Alabama fan and nothing sickened or repulsed me more than other bama fans rooting for Auburn to win the NC just so the SEC would win.

I used to think it was just a "bubba" cultural thing from people in the SEC , but we've got Big-12 fans , Big-10 fans , and Pac-12 fans , so it's not just a geographical bubba thing.

What is it ? Why do you root for an entire conference ?
 

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For example , today i'm having lunch with my bro in law and he asks if i'm betting the basketball game tonight , i told him i was leaning uconn and he said he hated to pull against me but he had to pull for kentucky b/c there from the sec.

I just said - oh yeah you gotta keep that sec going. ... i mean , WTF ?
 

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I only have an interest in the Big 12 because OU plays in it. As far as the other teams, the hell with them, especially Texass! I only root for them if I'm betting on them. Otherwise I don't really care. If they finish the season with a better record than the Sooners, it could benefit them in recruiting. I'm not going to ever root for that to happen. You'll never hear me chanting Big 12...Big 12...Big 12
 

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had this discussion here right before the NCG this year, maybe mid-Dec 2013...should see if you can find it

i don't get it. i take no satisfaction from the barn or viles winning a football game. If I had a foam tomahawk I'd have been swinging it in January

I know you hear "SEC" chants at some games but these forum PAC-10 guys act like they're all one team. Pretty f'd up
 

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My loyalties are a little divided but not completely. I study the Pac-12 because the teams I root for have been playing the rest of the conference for a long time. in the process, I get to know a few of the opposition's players, especially if they are quality players. After a couple of years, watching them play a few times arouses my curiosity to a point where I hope they play well for the sake of the game. That means I will root for his team because it usually results in a better performance on his part when everyone plays well, but when he's gone, my interest falls back to almost zero by comparison. In the one instance of Stanford, Andrew Luck was one of my favorite players and I found myself pulling for Stanford because Luck was playing. The next thing you know, I can practically name off their depth chart.

There are also some instances where my sentiments for a Pac-12 team could impact personnel in the opposite direction. I have admired Chris Petersen, Boise's HC for almost a decade. However now I find myself in conflict with him because he is now the head coach at the University of Washington who's players I hope become violently ill on their next flight to Eugene or LA. Aside from that, it's on a case per case basis. WSU is a team I would root for because I like their coach a lot. Colorado has a new head coach that I also think very highly of. I wish them both well. Utah I've been watching for a while because they pulled out some dramatic wins on the national stage as underdogs, but I don't feel much for them otherwise. The Arizona schools I could give two shits for. The Cal Bears I could give only one shit for. Both LA teams were my childhood heroes at one time or another so it's kind of a sentimental thing i harbor for both the Trojans and Bruins. Having lived here in Oregon for 25 years, the Ducks have grown on me and have become my most favorite team and their story is a great one still in progress... Oregon State is the underdog nobody expects to win which finds me rooting for them as the local team nobody expects much from... but they win in that situation quite often.

The conference as a whole doesn't do much for me as a conference, but I like seeing their teams prevail because it makes the Ducks look better when they are atop a stronger conference. Also I have Larry Scott as one of my great heroes for the way he has pulled the Pac up from their former image of USC and the 9 dwarfs. He took over in the TV contract department and really did a hell of a job marketing their image. He's taken on the role of the most pioneering of all conference head honchos even beyond Mike Slive of the SEC which is no small matter because the next conference in line lags miles behind the two front runners in terms of their influence over the direction of the college game. I can only think of a couple of posters that actually root for a team because they play in the Pac-12, however they are vague impressions, nothing like the sort of "fanship" I see sickenly posted often by too many SEC posters... even to the point of rooting for their own teams worst rival. I was never anyone's hater but around the 1000th time I heard "5 NCs in a row" repeated ad nauseum, I was pretty turned off by it. If it wasn't for several SEC posters in here, I'd think there was some sort of ego disease that had become rampant in the south to the point where nothing outside of the Southeast even mattered. I do appreciate the input of the few who have grown up and demonstrated maturity and restraint. You know who you are.
 

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I only have an interest in the Big 12 because OU plays in it. As far as the other teams, the hell with them, especially Texass! I only root for them if I'm betting on them. Otherwise I don't really care. If they finish the season with a better record than the Sooners, it could benefit them in recruiting. I'm not going to ever root for that to happen. You'll never hear me chanting Big 12...Big 12...Big 12

I'm pretty neutral about the B-12, Oklahoma being my favorite especially after the Pac-10 refs stole a game from them in Eugene back when. Their fans are 1st class, especially when traveling to or hosting a team I follow (e.g. the Ducks) that tipped me off to their sportsmanship and classiness. On the other hand, Texas fans screw it all up like the way that I consider the "Burnt Orange" as the "Pravda" of the college press that does misinformation so well. When Joe Castiglione could take it no more and finally spoke out about the condition of the B-12 and what to do about it right in the face of Deloss Dodds, that was a great day in the annals of college sports. It had the VERY SURPRISING effect of shutting Dodds piehole right up. Thank you, thank you, thank you Mr. Castiglione. You actually saved (to a point) the format of college football conferences as we know it and the welfare of several lesser B-12 school's football programs. In so doing, I believe that Castiglione remains the one most powerful influence that took down a corrupt dynasty within their own circle of teams and schools by denying them the patronizing and the control over the B-12 that they had previously bullied their way into. That denial now appears to have left them floundering in the lurch as just one of the conference members to a much larger extent, territory unknown to the Longhorns. And I also like watching Baylor.
 

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I take a different view than most of you. I pull for the SEC teams, especially when they play out of conference. I've been an Alabama fan all my life but I don't hate Auburn, other than playing Bama, I pull for them. I have some very close family members who attended Auburn and they loved the place. I lived in the Atlanta area 27 years and attented tons of Georgia games, even bought season tickets a couple of years. I tend to pull for the Dawgs in most games. Why, maybe because I was brought up on southern football and for years that's about all we had in the south to crow about. I remember as a kid our family getting up early on Saturdays and driving to Tuscaloosa for an Alabama game...I looked forward to football season and those trips all year....fond memories to me.
 

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The biggest reason I feel the way I do about the Big 12 is because of the way the conference has changed. The conferecne is just a shell of what it used to be with just 4 teams left from the original Big 8 Conference. Back in the old days I actually liked Nebraska quite a bit because of the rivalry. The Sooners and the Huskers were very similar and almost mirrored each other back in the Tom Osborne days. I always rooted for the Big Red of the North when they weren't playing OU. But I also knew because of our geographic locations and OU's proximity to Texas, they weren't ever going to out recruit us. But I've never felt that way about Texas. I've always hated that team and program with a passion. These days, the Big 12 name is well, just a name. Recuiting is getting much harder for Stoops, especially with Art Briles brother using some very cut throat methods to undermine Oklahoma when it comes to recruiting. They can suck balls too as far as I'm concerned. With their recent success, they are my new enemy on the block.
 

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I take a different view than most of you. I pull for the SEC teams, especially when they play out of conference. I've been an Alabama fan all my life but I don't hate Auburn, other than playing Bama, I pull for them. I have some very close family members who attended Auburn and they loved the place. I lived in the Atlanta area 27 years and attented tons of Georgia games, even bought season tickets a couple of years. I tend to pull for the Dawgs in most games. Why, maybe because I was brought up on southern football and for years that's about all we had in the south to crow about. I remember as a kid our family getting up early on Saturdays and driving to Tuscaloosa for an Alabama game...I looked forward to football season and those trips all year....fond memories to me.

Yeah clover i can understand some of that. I can understand not hating auburn due to family members and i always encounter people who say they pull for both teams until they play each other (i personaly dont agree with that philsophy but i understand) ... and i certainly understand pulling for georgia if you lived there (once a fan always a fan) ... but i'm still not grasping the part about pulling for "any" sec team over "any" non conference team. I try to understand this mind set but i'm picturing a guy waving a confederate flag and going to a civil war reenactment. ...THOSE DAMN YANKEES !
 

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Conan , I was just joking around with cloverleaf , but i'm serious when i say this to you.

You have more geographical patriotism of anybody i've ever seen. If you had been born in Alabama i damn sure know you would be waving the rebel flag. @):mad:
 

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I only have an interest in the Big 12 because OU plays in it. As far as the other teams, the hell with them, especially Texass! I only root for them if I'm betting on them. Otherwise I don't really care. If they finish the season with a better record than the Sooners, it could benefit them in recruiting. I'm not going to ever root for that to happen. You'll never hear me chanting Big 12...Big 12...Big 12

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had this discussion here right before the NCG this year, maybe mid-Dec 2013...should see if you can find it

i don't get it. i take no satisfaction from the barn or viles winning a football game. If I had a foam tomahawk I'd have been swinging it in January

I know you hear "SEC" chants at some games but these forum PAC-10 guys act like they're all one team. Pretty f'd up

Yeah lol now that you mention it , i think i remeber posting in that thread.
 

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Hey Ty, I grew up on a horse farm, got a good education because of football, did well in the business world and after all these years, I still drive a truck. Looking for some Rebel flags and will consider putting a shotgun in my back window if I can qualify for a true southern redneck. I believe and love in the southern way of life. Even though I also have two Lincolns.....I'm a redneck concerning SEC football.

No apologies from me my friend.
 

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Conan , I was just joking around with cloverleaf , but i'm serious when i say this to you.

You have more geographical patriotism of anybody i've ever seen. If you had been born in Alabama i damn sure know you would be waving the rebel flag. @):mad:
That's probably a coincidence however I can understand why you would say that Ty. I have traveled the west coast abundantly over the years and visited many of the campuses. But notice that my interest peaks for just the coastal states, probably an I-5 or a US 101 journey that I have embarked upon dozens of times if not more. I know people all over the west coast from Orcas Island in the Peugeot Sound in the north to San Diego in the south. Just a couple of days ago, a friend from Vashon Island near Seattle stayed here and we talked at length about Chris Petersen and how well he has been accepted by the Husky fans. No love lost for Sarkisian whatsoever.

I feel as though the entire Pacific Coast is my stomping grounds if not my home in years past. It's geographic location seems to isolate it from the rest of the US population (likely due to the time difference) and that has been reflected in most people's attitude and knowledge about west coast CFB for the most part. With only an exception or two, that seems to put most of the west coast teams in a dog role time and time again in marquee interconference games because most people just don't know. That factor has often landed me in an "Oh yeah?" role, and for the amount of shit I've taken for that, the wins have more than well outnumbered the losses, particularly in major contests. However I've learned to accept the obvious on occasion too.

I'm 64 now. I was in my late 40s when I arrived here at the Rx. Over time my prejudice and bias has melted away because I just don't give a rip in a prejudicial manner like I used to. For the most part, I wouldn't say that I am a fan of most teams out west, I just study them a lot. Also due to lack interest or lack of press, I find myself defending teams against a lot of prejudice by people that only know the teams from some recent piece about them written by an equally uninformed beat writer from the east. This has been my experience going back many years. That list of Pac-12 coaches by strength is a perfect example of the crap I see. Players may come and go but the school's spirit is one thing that holds up (along with the coaching staffs) and that can often have a huge impact in numerous games both in and out of conference.
 

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The Big Ten has got a little bit of the conference-support disease (although not to the extent that we see with the SEC). I saw this in year one with Badger fans chanting "Big Ten Football". It's pretty laughable, from a Nebraskan perspective anyway. Besides Ohio State what has any other program done in the last 25 years? Come to think of it, they pump the basketball side of it too, and I cant remember the last time they won a title. I get the same chuckle when SEC programs that are doormats for Alabama, Florida and LSU chant the SEC title run up.

I can't recall really supporting any of the old Big 8 programs. I wanted Colorado to lose every game .... well, during their short run of quality. I hated Oklahoma because they most usually found a way to beat NU. I know GS said he liked Nebraska, but that's easy to do when you are winning! I can respect them a little now, knowing they faced some of the same obstacles and found a way to get it done. In the Big 12, I really hated Texas, they too found a way to weasel out victories against NU. I still hate Texas and will always watch them hoping they burn. Missouri, K-state.....fuck.... come to think of it, I pretty much hate them all. I'm starting to really hate some of these Big Ten teams too. The only reason I have been "kind of" rooting for Big Ten teams in bowl games is just to try and get this SEC reign slowed down. That's it! Really a lesser of two evils. Fuck em all, Go Big Red.
 

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I root for the BIG 10 and MAC Conference with Ohio State being a favorite team but by no means Im a die hard. I just have people that i know let me know what going on with Ohio State football and some that let me know about the MAC with Miami Oh being a team that I follow with Akron and Kent State being near me also.
 

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This may not apply to everybody , but if the shoe fits please wear it and chime in.

Other than MONEY , why are you a fan of an entire conference rather than just a team ? ... Now i get the money part. You want the confernce that your team plays in to have enough bowl bids that even in a down season you can still go to a bowl game. ...I get the money part and the revenue sharing , but why do people root for entire conferences.

I'm an Alabama fan and nothing sickened or repulsed me more than other bama fans rooting for Auburn to win the NC just so the SEC would win.

I used to think it was just a "bubba" cultural thing from people in the SEC , but we've got Big-12 fans , Big-10 fans , and Pac-12 fans , so it's not just a geographical bubba thing.

What is it ? Why do you root for an entire conference ?
Ty, I could not agree with you more. I am obviously a SoCar fan, but try not to make that obvious and still be objective around these parts. I never say "we" or "our". But I have NEVER in my fucking life pulled for another SEC team "because they're in the SEC." That's a dumbass argument. My comment to other SEC people that say that is simple: we (SoCar, or whoever else you pull for in the SEC) recruits against those other SEC schools. So at least in that regard, their success could hurt your recruiting. And I see the money argument too, but I mean give me a break, it's negligible at this point.

Nothing pisses me off more than a SoCar fan, or a UT fan, or UGA fan, etc., pulling for Auburn in the MNC last year because they were in the SEC. I can think of 457 other reasons in addition to the recruitment argument as to why I would never pull for an SEC team just because of their conference affiliation. Now, there are certainly times I pull for an SEC team playing an OOC opponent. But I can assure you it's for a myriad of other reasons and is never simply because they are in the SEC. I'm with you 100% brother.
 

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Guess I don't have any problem with someone disagreeing with my "dumbass argument."

I leave that to XXXXXXX Obama liberal democrats. They're good labeling folks who disagree with them.

Ever wonder why new young guys are affraid to post on these forums?
 

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If you have a favorite team then it makes sense that you will follow the conference they are in more closely than others. I am not a big conference rooter anymore than I root against a particular conference either. It cracks me up to see these arguements about which conference is best etc. also. My primary interest is winning bets so I try to go into a season and take it week to week. One of the worst mistakes you can make is to over estimate a team or underestimate a team based on their conference when they are in a given weekly matchup. I judge every team on it's own merits and leave the conference thing alone.
 

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I take a different view than most of you. I pull for the SEC teams, especially when they play out of conference. I've been an Alabama fan all my life but I don't hate Auburn, other than playing Bama, I pull for them. I have some very close family members who attended Auburn and they loved the place. I lived in the Atlanta area 27 years and attented tons of Georgia games, even bought season tickets a couple of years. I tend to pull for the Dawgs in most games. Why, maybe because I was brought up on southern football and for years that's about all we had in the south to crow about. I remember as a kid our family getting up early on Saturdays and driving to Tuscaloosa for an Alabama game...I looked forward to football season and those trips all year....fond memories to me.
Clover, this blows my mind. I say that with respect, because I always value your insight and posts. And we're innanet friends! It blows my mind that someone who is a Bammer could not hate Auburn. I understand having family and friends. I equate this to a SoCar fan not hating Clemson. Except in your case, it's arguably worse because y'all are in the same conference. SoCar and Clemson are, as you know, bitter, heated rivals, and most hate the other. I loathe Clemson. I wouldn't pull for Clemson if they were playing Kim Jong Un. And some of my best friends in the whole world went to Clemson and are diehard fans. I still love those people. But I despise Clemson. And like I said, SoCar doesn't even compete against them for divisional titles! But, I tip my cap to you for being a better southern gentleman than I. I suppose? But fuck Auburn, I hate them too. Of course, I hate Alabama too but that's mainly because I hate everyone else in the SEC, because I want to and I have to. But I've never really had much beef with Alabama. It's hard to when they do most everything right and have one of the greatest of all times leading the program. And I witnessed first hand arguably the best game of Garcia's up and down career when he took down #1 Bama in Williams Brice.
 

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