Who won the Pres debate and why?

[C-Gold]

I thought Barrack Hussein Obama was going to crush old man Mccain. It has nothing to do with views, but presentation and debate....

Barrack Obama is a lawyer... a stinking lawyer
John Mccain isn't as sharp as he probably once was. I expected the clever fox to outwit Mccain in a landslide.


Early on I saw Obama come out with his fancy planned little lines, him trying to tie Mccain to Iraq, and his speaches where he went off on a tangent while Mccain kept talking about spending spending and spending.

It was as though the mod wasn't even asking Obama questions, but he would just spit off a 2 min message.

There was a time when the mod was asking both guys... answer the damn questions... If we were to inject 700 billion on a bailout... what would you cut... answer... say something... you can't just dodge the question.... but both did. They will both spend too much money.... I fault both of them for not just coming out and saying it.

Once they got to foreign policy though, it was as though Mccain was LECTURING Obama. Mccain was spitting off logic and solid examples to back up his points. Mccain was naming foreign leaders I had never heard of, and problems ... and Obama " agreed".

The first half Obama sounded better in his "speeches" and I'd say he would slightly come out more positive ( not based on his views, but how he expressed them), but in the second half ( foreign policy) Mccain crushed him.

Mccain just isn't very comfortbale talking about the economy. He isn't pretending to be a genius, but he is very comfortable talking foreign policy, and Obama is about as green as they come.

 

[TTinCO]

I want 90 minutes of my life back.

The whole thing was f'ing worthless.

 

[festeringZit]

McCain won.

Obama was exposed to be a total poser, and inept without
his scripts.

 

[gtc08]

hard to grade this. not compelled by either. i dont like obama saying john is right, but i can see why as a possibility that hey i can reach across party lines while mccain is just saying your wrong the entire time.

mccain talked down, played the inexperience angle. you dont understand, your a bit naive.

both stuck to there talking points. mccain got obama going a bit on the earmarks, but obama got him back on the conditional meetings and mccain backer agreeing with that.

and then you got obama constantly reiterating mccain backing bush.

same thing basically in a regular mccain obama ad or talking point.

id say tie probably

the spending freeze was stupid though.

 

[horns2695]

Unfortunately I would have to agree with gtc08. Didnt think McCain seperated himself

 

[Georgiaboy]

I would say McCain. His points were I've done where Obama said I will. McCain probably gained with the avg voter when he got to talking about all of the heads of states. He knew them by name and said I've met with them. Just my opinion of course.

 

[hippieki11er]

Obama started off smoother and more composed and I thought McCain was in for a beating.

Then it all started going down hill when McCain nailed Obama with his $923M in excess spending and then kept on hammering that figure again and again. Afterwards McCain spoke more convincingly about being committed to cutting spending.

Foreign policy wise it was an absolute blowout and the Dems know it. McCain was a teacher up there and stole the show. He had everyone eating out of the palm of his hand and even made the audience laugh (they're suppose to remain silent) when he nailed Obama on his ridiculous idea of having talks with Ahmenejad. Obama could only say in the end "You know, John and I agree on most points here, let's just move this along". This only came after finally admitting that he was "naive" in thinking that talks with Ahmenejad was a good idea.

Finally, I counted Obama saying the phrase "Senator McCain's right" a good 7 to 10 times.

1-0 McCain by a wide margin.

 

[festeringZit]

Obama started off smoother and more composed and I thought McCain was in for a beating.

Then it all started going down hill when McCain nailed Obama with his $923M in excess spending and then kept on hammering that figure again and again. Afterwards he spoke more about being committed to cutting spending.

Foreign policy wise it was an absolute blowout and the Dems know it. McCain was a teacher up there and stole the show. He had everyone eating out of the palm of his hand and even made the audience laugh (they're suppose to remain silent) when he nailed Obama on his ridiculous idea of having talks with Ahmenejad. Obama could only say in the end "You know, John and I agree on most points here, let's just move this along". This only came after finally admitting that he was "naive" in thinking that talks with Ahmenejad was a good idea.

1-0 McCain by a wide margin.

100% spot on.

 

[Whoson1st]

If the winner is the candidate that raised up on their heels more times; McCain must have foot sores.

 

[gtc08]

Obama started off smoother and more composed and I thought McCain was in for a beating.

Then it all started going down hill when McCain nailed Obama with his $923M in excess spending and then kept on hammering that figure again and again. Afterwards McCain spoke more convincingly about being committed to cutting spending.

Foreign policy wise it was an absolute blowout and the Dems know it. McCain was a teacher up there and stole the show. He had everyone eating out of the palm of his hand and even made the audience laugh (they're suppose to remain silent) when he nailed Obama on his ridiculous idea of having talks with Ahmenejad. Obama could only say in the end "You know, John and I agree on most points here, let's just move this along". This only came after finally admitting that he was "naive" in thinking that talks with Ahmenejad was a good idea.

Finally, I counted Obama saying the phrase "Senator McCain's right" a good 7 to 10 times.

1-0 McCain by a wide margin.

nobody won by a wide margin. nothing will resound in anyones head. look at polls in the morning to get a better idea. this was a very forgettable debate on both sides.

 

[C-Gold]

I thought Obama would have crushed Mccain in this debate... even a tie would suffice for Mccain...


Early on Obama didn't answer the questions but went with his scripted 2 min messages while Mccain was nervous and only talked spending... I'd give Obama a slight edge because neither answered the questions... if Obama answered the questions he should have won.

The came foreign policy and it was teacher student. Mccain was talking about the Ukraine, diplomacy, preconditions... A;ajsdoifasdoih blowing up Israel and us just saying "No"?

I also thought Mccain came off as more experienced and honest, while Obama was like a snake oil salesman.

 

[C-Gold]

nobody won by a wide margin. nothing will resound in anyones head. look at polls in the morning to get a better idea. this was a very forgettable debate on both sides.

Obama had a slight lead early on, but Mccain crushed him on foreign policy to take the overal lead. Mccain was talks slower and less stern about the economy ( he is no expert, but neither is Obama), but he was literally teaching Obama foreign policy 101 out there.

 

[JDeuce]

After watching tonight, I wish I knew a little more about higher math.

I'd like to better understand Obama's plans to cut taxes for 95% of us when 40% of us don't pay any to begin with. He didn't say 95% of taxpayers, did he?

Anyone? Bueller...?

 

[gtc08]

I thought Obama would have crushed Mccain in this debate... even a tie would suffice for Mccain...


Early on Obama didn't answer the questions but went with his scripted 2 min messages while Mccain was nervous and only talked spending... I'd give Obama a slight edge because neither answered the questions... if Obama answered the questions he should have won.

The came foreign policy and it was teacher student. Mccain was talking about the Ukraine, diplomacy, preconditions... A;ajsdoifasdoih blowing up Israel and us just saying "No"?

I also thought Mccain came off as more experienced and honest, while Obama was like a snake oil salesman.

mccain is the foreign policy guy. he should look good in this type of debate. i don't think he did anything to prove he won, but like i said wait and see what the polls say in the morning. your naturally going to say mccain won because your a mccain supporter so it's pretty much a moot point to debate who did better. both sides will say they won

 

[D2bets]

After watching tonight, I wish I knew a little more about higher math.

I'd like to better understand Obama's plans to cut taxes for 95% of us when 40% of us don't pay any to begin with. Anyone? Bueller...?

Haha, yeah, you caught him, he's not going to cut taxes on toddlers.

 

[hippieki11er]

nobody won by a wide margin. nothing will resound in anyones head. look at polls in the morning to get a better idea. this was a very forgettable debate on both sides.

That may be true from a polls perspective, but I studied Obama's body language very closely tonight and he was practically shitting himself. Swallowing hard all night long, reaching for that glass of water, and clearly displaying emotion on his face when nailed to a point he was wrong on. I can assure you that Obama was glad when it was finally over.

That being said, this one wasn't suppose to be one of Obama's stronger showings anyway, so I'm not saying all is lost for him, but Obama clearly failed to take advantage more on the economy earlier in the debate. Once it got to foreign policy, his inexperience really showed and all he could do was admit that McCain was right.

 

[C-Gold]

After watching tonight, I wish I knew a little more about higher math.

I'd like to better understand Obama's plans to cut taxes for 95% of us when 40% of us don't pay any to begin with. Anyone? Bueller...?

Obama is no robin hood. Most of the people he talks about would get an extra 300 to 1000 bucks from the government, while "the rich", which he hasn't defined yet would pay even more in tax...

Mccain has a similar proposal for the average joe, only "the rich" who already pay a much higher pct of income into taxes, wouldn't be paying as much.

Also, we would all pay more in cap gains and divy taxes in our 401k's and trading accounts.

 

[C-Gold]

mccain is the foreign policy guy. he should look good in this type of debate. i don't think he did anything to prove he won, but like i said wait and see what the polls say in the morning. your naturally going to say mccain won because your a mccain supporter so it's pretty much a moot point to debate who did better. both sides will say they won

So what is Obama an expert on... getting ghetto hood rats in the chicago slums to sign his clip board by day, and snorting coke by night?


Stirring up racial hatred with his buddy J. Wright?

 

[cincy_]

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[C-Gold]

That may be true from a polls perspective, but I studied Obama's body language very closely tonight and he was practically shitting himself. Swallowing hard all night long, reaching for that glass of water, and clearly displaying emotion on his face when nailed to a point he was wrong on. I can assure you that Obama was glad when it was finally over.

That being said, this one wasn't suppose to be one of Obama's stronger showings anyway, so I'm not saying all is lost for him, but Obama clearly failed to take advantage more on the economy earlier in the debate. Once it got to foreign policy, his inexperience really showed and all he could do was admit that McCain was right.

I agree, I was sure Obama would win, I just didn't want it to be too wide of a margin, but Mccain won and it wasn't even close.