Who the hell will hire Bliss now??? Report: Baylor Coach Told Players to Lie About Dennehy

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He's on tape ... and I would say he's ****ed ... way to go, Dave, you lying asshole
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WACO, Texas — Dave Bliss (search), the former Baylor basketball coach forced out last week amid the growing scandal surrounding the death of star player Patrick Dennehy (search), not only ordered players to lie to investigators probing the case, but went as far as to write scripts for them, detailing exactly what they should say.

The new revelations, supported by hand-written notes allegedly written by Bliss, were made public on Saturday by Bill Underwood (search), chairman of a university-sanctioned committee conducting its own investigation.

In an audio taped conversation, Bliss is heard encouraging a player to leave investigators with the impression that Dennehy may have supported himself, including paying more than $7,000 in tuition, by dealing drugs.

"I think the thing we want to do — and you think about this — if there's a way we can create the perception that Pat may have been a dealer," the coach told the player in a conversation secretly taped by assistant coach Abar Rouse and obtained by the Fort Worth Star-Telegram (search). "Even if we had to kind of make some things look a little better than they are, that can save us."

None of any of the subsequent investigations has turned up any evidence that Dennehy was involved in drug dealing or had any access to drug money, school officials said.

Rouse, who only joined the Baylor staff on June 1, told investigators he recorded the tapes around a month later, after Bliss threatened to fire him if he did not go along with the plan to incriminate Dennehy.

The tapes also show Bliss knew some players smoked marijuana and that Baylor coaches lied when they denied knowledge another player, Harvey Thomas (search), had threatened Dennehy.

In another conversation, Bliss indicated Thomas would be willing to lie about Dennehy's activities because Baylor coaches publicly said they knew nothing about Thomas' threats.

"Harvey will do anything," Bliss told Rouse. "And the reason is because we did it for Harvey."

Thomas has denied the threats or involvement in Dennehy's death.

Bliss later told the newspaper he has been trying to "share some of the stories that I had heard, and I was completely wrong in what I did."

"But the bizarre circumstances painted me into a corner and I chose the wrong way to react. As of last Friday (Aug. 8), however, those days are over and I have cooperated completely and will continue to do so because I know I have disappointed a lot of people," Bliss said.

When Bliss resigned on that day, Baylor President Robert B. Sloan Jr. said an internal review committee found two players had received improper tuition payments and that Bliss admitted involvement. Attempts by The Associated Press to reach Bliss by telephone were unsuccessful Friday night.

Dennehy, who disappeared in mid-June, died from two gunshot wounds to the head. His body was found July 25 a few miles from Baylor. Carlton Dotson (search), who played basketball at Baylor last year, has been charged with the slaying.

In a statement Friday night, Sloan said he felt betrayed by Bliss' attempt "to suppress and conceal the truth."

Kirk Watson, counsel for the review committee, said members were stunned.

"These tapes are evidence of a desperate person trying to cover up his activities. It is shocking. But the good news is it failed," Watson said.

Dennehy's stepfather, Brian Brabazon, was outraged by the new information, particularly the drug allegations.

"You know what? Somebody is going down, because that is bull talking like that, especially trying to besmirch my son's name when he is dead," Brabazon said
 

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I hope this isn`t a typical college situation, I read alot of negative stuff a month ago about Bliss, but this is 100xS WORSE...SCRIPTING A COVER UP??? Is this not criminal? No way in hell he ever coaches Division I again!
 

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Obstruction of justice for sure. Thank God Bobby Knight is there to keep some order in the conferance
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all the players will be able to change schools and get an exemption for the 1 year off rule. another hit on college sports!
 

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I thought the dude was out in Iraq looking for WMD
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Didn't realize he quit that job and started coaching basketball
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WACO, Texas — Investigators looking into allegations of NCAA violations at Baylor University (search) have another audio tape of former basketball coach Dave Bliss (search) to inspect in the ever-widening scandal at the school.

Richard Guinn recorded a conversation Bliss had Saturday with his son, senior center R.T. Guinn, at their Waco home. Richard Guinn turned his tape over to investigators.

Richard Guinn wouldn't disclose the nature of the conversation, but said Bliss at one point apologized to R.T. Guinn, saying, "I'm sorry about the things that happened."

An investigative committee has already heard secretly recorded tapes in which Bliss apparently tried to convince players and an assistant coach to portray a slain player as a drug dealer.

Those tapes — capturing conversations among Bliss, assistant Abar Rouse and players — indicate Bliss thought the drug story would steer investigators away from allegations the coach had improperly paid for player Patrick Dennehy's (search) tuition, an NCAA violation.

Dennehy was found shot to death on July 25. An autopsy found no alcohol, opiates, amphetamines or barbiturates in his system, but his body was too decomposed to test for marijuana.

Baylor investigator David Guinn, no relation, said Sunday he had locked the latest tape away and would play it for investigators as early as Monday. He said he had not listened to it.

Richard Guinn said Bliss was composed during their meeting.

"He said he was scared of what was coming out on the tapes," Richard Guinn said. Bliss also brought a tape recorder to the meeting but didn't say why he wanted to record the conversation.

"I told Bliss we're not going to lie, we're not going to cover up, we're not going to hold back anything," Richard Guinn said.

Bliss did not return a telephone message left at his home Sunday. Bliss resigned Aug. 8 when the school announced he had been involved in improper tuition payments to two players.

"What we've got to do here is create drugs," Bliss said on one of the first batch of tapes, which were recorded July 30 and 31 and Aug. 1.

Baylor investigators found no evidence Dennehy was involved in drug dealing. Baylor officials have said one unidentified player tried to use the drug story with investigators but he recanted once the tape surfaced.

A former teammate, Carlton Dotson, has been charged with Dennehy's murder.
 

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Hopefully no ones hires the lying asshole. The only coach more in need of being banned from college coaching is that lying prick Neuhiesal. He's been popped twice by the NCAA and his own school canned his ass.
 

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Dear Coach Bliss,

Hey dude how ya doin? Man what you doin down there in Dubya country anyway dude? You got them 2 degrees from Cornell and all. You an Ivy League boy, WTF? You in a heep a trouble boy. Now look here, what you needs here is DAMAGE CONTROL big time you hear.

Now lets start with this. You named your daughter Berkeley. Now thats cool and that will be the key to your defense. Now here's watcha do. Listen up! You claim that you was influenced by that Mario Savio free speech cat in the sixties at Berkeley. OK? All right, so you took it a bit too far but wait.

See Cornell and Berkeley and freedom of speech, see we gonna spin this for all its worth dude. Lets just call you a closet radical at that time for now.

So what do you do man? Well you a closet radical but you join the Army in the sixties. Use the patriot angle spin here. So bein a closet radical where do ya get your first coachin gig? Yeah we on to something now man. At West Point under Bobby Knight
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See you already got to be smokin some strange sh-t man to do that.

See you a 60's radical, but your head gets messed up with neo fascist sh-t. You now startin to live two different lives. You gettin' all this right wing family values propoganda piled on top of the Mario Savio and Cornell radical stuff and you start inhalin way too much. You gettin confused by things. See you becoming unstable coach. Hell, I mean didn't Coach K play on that team.
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Ok, so this here is what you do man. You plead insanity see, Cause you be pleadin something and soon man.

See you been torn between freedom of speech and family values all your life, obsessed by both. You was at West Point smokin weed and doin acid. You comin down from trips while facin Coach Knight
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Even if you wasn't, you say you was cause it shows you was an idiot both then and now. That is key to your defense.

So see all this is makin you one crazy SOB. But don't blame the Coachs' K. Dude, you gonna need them as character witnesses. Blame The Moody Blues and the Timothy Leary song, you know "taking trips around the bay" and all. Play that Berkeley obsession angle hard. I mean like, lie again and say you checked in for practice and said " Wow Coach Knight, that's a far out defensive scheme. By the way I had a couple of guys over at my place last night, including that young kid from Chicago, and like we watched game film and listened to the Moody Blues new album and , wow man, it was so cool. And then, see we sped up the film and man it was like really groovy." I mean Who'd remember something like that anyway.

Look here, I mean how many dudes name their daughter after a college. See I got a daughter and her name ain't Bob Jones Brown. It ain't even Bobbie Jones Brown. Blame the commie,pinko fags. Throw in Eldredge Cleaver. Tell them you was readin "Soul on Ice" and "The Tibetan Book of the Dead" during breaks from breakin down game film at West Point. I mean you gotta say something to protect your family right?

Which is really what you did, right? Protect your family. You don't have to worry about lyin in Texas especially if you blame commie,pinko fags for corrupting you at a young age. Stick to family values, it'll play well in a Texas courtroom. And see what was they doin tapin you anyway? I mean spin all this sh-t better than Meadowlark could spin the rock and you be OK.

Now the way I sees it you got two things goin for ya.

First, you got Berkeley graduating from Baylor soon with a law degree. Man she gets herself a high profile case right outta school and you saves your pitiful self lotsa $$$.

Second, you did come clean right? Yea, let's hope so, you lame ass. And see you worked for Proctor Gamble before that first coaching gig. No man, I know you didn't gamble
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. I sayin you worked for Proctor Gamble before your first coachin gig remember? You said coachin beats sellin toothpaste. Well maybe not.

Ok you claim temporary/permanent insanity, whatever. Berkeley gets the Coaches' K as character witnesses. Cop somekind of plea and write a book. You knows how that goes man. The American Way.

Then you drags your sorry ass back to Proctor and Gamble with this national TV ad campaign proposition. Its a natural.Its a lock. And YOU, sh-t for brains, can be the pitchman....

"Hi sports fans, I'm Coach Bliss remember me? I came clean and so can your teeth with.....

See, coach only in America. Then you takes a few hundred dimes and sends them off to Costa Rica or Jamaica [now here you remember Ole' Leroy and you gives him the referrals you hear]. Now you follows the money down there. You kick back at Hedo 2 or some such family values place and enjoy all the hoops action you can handle again.

Berkeley gets to defend the next Kobe or maybe one of your own ex-players.

See only in America you you sorry sack of sh-t.

By the way coach, in addition to the referrals I'll take 40% off all gross revenues after your trial.

If there is anything you don't understand here, which is likely you pea brain, send for the one and only "LeRoy Brown's Surefire Way To Profit From Lying in Texas" self explanatory kit. It normally sells for $995.00 plus shipping and handling. But if you order with 24 hours of receipt of this letter you'll receive an $11 discount--good enough to stay in minimal hoops action for the time being. Not only is this kit endorsed by the President of The United States, but can be used in other states as well.

Now If you send your request within ten minutes of receipt of this letter, I will personally send you, completely free of charge, pictures of at least 20 topless co-eds from Iowa State University personally supplied to me by a very satisfied client.

Hope to hear from soon your good friend and fan,

LeRoy Brown


Anyway boys that's who will hire Coach Bliss.
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AGREED BLISS is an ASSHOLE ... But are you telling me no one else was apart of this fiasco ? HE was PAYIN for Dennehy's Education ! Free Fvckin' RIDE . It's these Fvckin' players nowadays who DEMAND perks just so the university has to take them . If your BAYLOR and your going up against the KANSAS' , Okla state , and Misso what the fvck are you gonna do ? Don't you think these kids know they have bargaining power ? It wouldn't surprise me if a third of these colleges broke laws . BLISS is just the Fvckin' scapegoat ... They're all HYPOCRITES !
 

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