Who is the worst NBA player talent wise in the league?

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He's playing with all DLeague caliber guys and they're tanking

He's getting old but obviously pretty good in his prime. This season isn't some referendum on his entire career.
 

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Why was memphis so good for so long? And so terrible so quickly? If he was really elite....they wouldn't be on a 15 game losing streak. Without an all star caliber big man alongside him he is average at best. Wish I started fading them 15 games ago. He's not going to save them that's for sure.


Marc Gasol playoff stats....Not bad.

POSTSEASON AVERAGES
SEASONTEAMGPGSMINFGM-AFG%3PM-A3P%FTM-AFT%ORDRREBASTBLKSTLPFTOPTS
'10-'11
131339.95.5-10.8.5110.0-0.2.0003.9-5.6.6993.28.111.22.22.21.13.42.015.0
'11-'12
7737.35.1-9.9.5220.0-0.1.0004.9-6.1.7912.34.46.73.11.90.33.61.915.1
'12-'13
151540.66.2-13.7.4540.0-0.0.0004.8-6.0.8001.76.88.53.22.20.93.51.217.2
'13-'14
7742.76.7-16.6.4050.0-0.1.0003.9-4.9.7941.95.97.74.40.91.73.91.717.3
'14-'15
111137.86.5-16.4.3940.0-0.2.0006.8-8.0.8521.78.610.34.51.70.93.01.519.7
'16-'17
6640.06.5-13.8.4701.2-2.0.5835.2-5.5.9391.25.36.54.20.70.33.72.519.3
Career595939.76.1-13.5.4510.1-0.3.3894.9-6.1.8032.16.98.93.51.70.93.51.717.2

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Marc Gasol regular season stats.

EGULAR SEASON AVERAGES
SEASONTEAMGPGSMINFGM-AFG%3PM-A3P%FTM-AFT%ORDRREBASTBLKSTLPFTOPTS
'08-'09
827430.74.3-8.1.5300.0-0.0.0003.4-4.6.7332.54.97.41.71.10.83.22.011.9
'09-'10
696935.85.5-9.4.5810.0-0.0.0003.7-5.4.6703.06.39.32.41.61.03.72.014.6
'10-'11
818131.94.5-8.5.5270.0-0.1.4292.7-3.6.7481.95.17.02.51.70.93.31.811.7
'11-'12
656536.55.5-11.4.4820.0-0.2.0833.6-4.9.7481.97.18.93.11.91.03.11.914.6
'12-'13
808035.05.4-10.9.4940.0-0.2.0713.4-4.0.8482.35.57.84.01.71.03.22.014.1
'13-'14
595933.45.7-12.1.4730.0-0.2.1823.1-4.1.7681.45.87.23.61.31.02.51.914.6
'14-'15
818133.26.5-13.2.4940.0-0.2.1764.3-5.4.7951.46.47.83.81.60.92.62.217.4
'15-'16
525234.46.3-13.6.4640.0-0.1.6673.9-4.7.8291.15.97.03.81.31.02.72.316.6
'16-'17
747434.27.2-15.7.4591.4-3.6.3883.8-4.5.8370.85.56.34.61.30.92.32.219.5
'17-'18
616133.96.1-14.7.4161.4-4.4.3304.2-5.0.8441.17.48.54.11.40.72.52.817.9
Career70469633.85.6-11.6.4870.3-0.9.3393.6-4.6.7791.85.97.73.31.50.92.92.115.2

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He's playing with all DLeague caliber guys and they're tanking

He's getting old but obviously pretty good in his prime. This season isn't some referendum on his entire career.

He's not tanking lol. Yes the team sucks. But they were very good very recently. The immediate drop off has a lot to do with him being their star and not being able to cut it.

Weren't we saying how bad the pelicans were for like five years until Anthony davis started taking over? The difference is pelicans have holiday maybe and Anthony Davis is a million times better than marc gasol. Memphis went downhill so fast. He didn't get old that quickly. He's overrated.
 

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Yeah, Marc Gasol isn't as good as Anthony Davis.

That means he is overrated. Sounds logical.

The Parsons signing was a huge bust, Conley is always hurt, ZBo/Allen got old/are gone, Gasol is older. I mean, the team is way, way worse now. That's why they suck.
 

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And Julius Randle is pretty good too fwiw

Looks like he got on the good HGH. Should get paid this summer by someone.
 
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Yeah, Marc Gasol isn't as good as Anthony Davis.

That means he is overrated. Sounds logical.

That's not what I said though. You said his team sucks. I am saying yeah well so did the Pelicans. And Anthony Davis has not received much additional help from a few years ago. Am I wrong? Is boogie playing?

So my point is if Marc Gasol was elite...how is he on a 15 game losing streak? Without an elite big man to finish for his whack ass he isn't even close to elite now. By himself he is average. Can't carry shit. Has little to no post game. Most of his points come from pick and pops. He's nothing special and never was. Not saying he's terrible. But very very overrated.
 

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That's not what I said though. You said his team sucks. I am saying yeah well so did the Pelicans. And Anthony Davis has not received much additional help from a few years ago. Am I wrong? Is boogie playing?

So my point is if Marc Gasol was elite...how is he on a 15 game losing streak?

But nobody thinks he is "elite" You said he sucks. This is literally a "worst player in the NBA" thread.

He was a very good player for many years, 1 of the best defensive bigs in the NBA. I mean, any reasonable metric you use will back this up.

If you put him on a good team, he'd be very useful even at 33 years old.
 
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And Julius Randle is pretty good too fwiw

Looks like he got on the good HGH. Should get paid this summer by someone.

True. Lonzo helps him. The pace they play at now helps him. Julius randle is nothing special. Me and lavar ball disagree finally on something.
 
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But nobody thinks he is "elite" You said he sucks. This is literally a "worst player in the NBA" thread.

He was a very good player for many years, 1 of the best defensive bigs in the NBA. I mean, any reasonable metric you use will back this up.

If you put him on a good team, he'd be very useful even at 33 years old.

That's why I said he's most overrated and not least talented. I didn't want to make a new thread.


He was a good player lol when he had his brother playing with him on Spain. He was a good player with Zbo. Now he is left to carry a team and is on a 15 game losing streak. Fill in the blanks. He didn't age that quickly bro.


Of course people think he is still elite.
 

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Yeah, if you put him around a bunch of DLeague caliber guys then the team will likely suck. He isn't going to be able to carry a team like that.

Doesn't mean he isn't a very good player. He was the best player on quality Memphis teams for years. Teams that won 50 games every season in the Western conference.
 
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Yeah, if you put him around a bunch of DLeague caliber guys then the team will likely suck. He isn't going to be able to carry a team like that.

Doesn't mean he isn't a very good player. He was the best player on quality Memphis teams for years. Teams that won 50 games every season in the Western conference.

Zbo and Conley. Same formula he had with Spain. His brother and Calderon.

Without those key pieces he is not very good at all. Yes he needs talent. So does every average player lmao.
 
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The best big men just need a point guard to be able to feed them where they like it. That's all they need. Him on the other hand needs an all star point and an all star caliber big man. He was never elite imo.
 

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What point are you making exactly? If you've got a team with all bums and Marc Gasol, you're gonna suck? Umm yeah, probably so.

How does that tell you he wasn't a very good player?

If you're just trying to say he isn't Shaq you should just say that.
 
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What point are you making exactly? If you've got a team with all bums and Marc Gasol, you're gonna suck? Umm yeah, probably so.

How does that tell you he wasn't a very good player?

If you're just trying to say he isn't Shaq you should just say that.

Hahahhahaha. Almost every starting big man can do what he can do nowadays but way better. That big man bringing the ball up shooting 3's isn't an anomaly. And he doesn't even do those things that well. Not even that great in the post. What does he do really well? He can pass. He can kind of shoot. Defense is decent. He's an average player. He doesn't do anything spectacular. Zbo was a force to be reckon with. Conley is still is one of the most underrated players in the league. He made up for gasols overratedness. I'd take Pau Gasol in his prime 10/10 days over marc gasol at his absolute best. It's really not even close if we are talking about basketball.
 
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Jokic, Porzingis, Towns, even Embiid all 10000x better than marc gasol ever was. That's just off the dome. Probably another handful
 

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He was the lynchpin on 1 of the best defensive teams in the league for pretty much his entire prime. And defense is the main reason Memphis outplayed their talent level every year.

To say he was just a decent defender is just uninformed.

Naming really good players that you would take over a guy that your calling "average" isn't really making your point.
 
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He was the lynchpin on 1 of the best defensive teams in the league for pretty much his entire prime. And defense is the main reason Memphis outplayed their talent level every year.

To say he was just a decent defender is just uninformed.

Naming really good players that you would take over a guy that your calling "average" isn't really making your point.


LaMarcus Aldrige. Exactly the same age. Aldrige older by a few months and 50x better. They are not even in the same ballpark. Hahaha it's laughable Marc Gasol doesn't hold a candle to LaMarcus Aldridges game. I haven't even dug yet honestly. Just was watching highlights at the gym. Shit give me steven adams today over marc gasol. Not career for career but right now, yes.
 
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Marc gasol is about as good as Al Horford. In fact if they switched teams celtics would be worse and Memphis would be better but regardless they are about as good as each other. And Al horford gets no praise. Marc Gasol very overrated.
 
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Dillion Brooks is a hell of a player. Marc Gasol on the other hand looking like Marc gasol tonight lol. Like I said he wont be stopping this 15game streak. It will be Brooks who will be the reason that it ends.


And actually I'll take Al Horford over Marc Gasol.
 

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