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Notre Dame
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Syracuse.

ND is just flat out bad and had one toughest schedules in nation.
 

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both are huge frauds along with georgetown.

huge difference between pitt/ville/uconn and the rest of the big east. overall the big east isn't really that great imo. tough conference, but not nearly as good as people made it out to be.

acc is almost as good and they don't have all the shitty teams the big east has.
 

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Both are equally lost. Neither team plays any resemblance of defense. Syracuse has a number of heartless players on the team. Onaku could play if he could deal with the pain, but he chooses to sit out, and not play through the pain. It wouldn't matter either. Bohiem's inability to coach is showing this year more than any other. No way they should be getting beat like this with those players. I mean these aren't even losses, these are beatdowns. As bad as Syracuse is ND is worse since they lost to Syracuse by 20
 

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Both are equally lost.

Nice of you to finally admit that. I bet it feels good to get that off your chest.

So when you said Syracuse was a title contender earlier in the year you were speaking about the NIT tournament? Very sly my man, very sly.
 

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Overrated in order
ND
GTown
Cuse



while Cincy & Prov may be the most underrated teams in the BEAST

I think I'm about 1-6 on Cuse this year, that's it for me. I've been mostly betting against ND until today. :ohno:
 

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They are not very good, not frauds.

they were all ranked in the top 10 at some point this year. they are now struggling to even make the tournament and get public love almost every game. i'd say that's a pretty solid definition of a fraud.
 

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they were all ranked in the top 10 at some point this year. they are now struggling to even make the tournament and get public love almost every game. i'd say that's a pretty solid definition of a fraud.


You could have said they were frauds then, but now they are what they are.
 

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they were all ranked in the top 10 at some point this year. they are now struggling to even make the tournament and get public love almost every game. i'd say that's a pretty solid definition of a fraud.
All 3 would still be on top or at the top in most other conferences.

The Big East's physical style of play, does take it's toll on teams that don't have a strong bench. All 3 of these teams are beat up and/or have a short bench.
 

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All 3 would still be on top or at the top in most other conferences.

The Big East's physical style of play, does take it's toll on teams that don't have a strong bench. All 3 of these teams are beat up and/or have a short bench.

none of these teams would win any major conference other than maybe the sec, but the sec is terrible and shouldn't even be mentioned as a major conference.

pac 10 the best any of those three finish is 5th. big 10 the best they finish is 4th. big 12 sucks, but the best cuse, gtown or nd would finish is 4th. acc the best they would finish is like 5th or 6th.

the big east is the best conference probably, but it is incredibly overrated. three very good teams, the rest are barely above average with A LOT of shitty teams. marquette has built themselves into a top 10 team by having a joke schedule early in conference play. they haven't played pitt, ville, or uconn, got wvu at home, got gtown at home..really ZERO impressive wins by marquette so far this year and they would get crushed by top teams.

when you have games against rutgers, so florida, seton hall, depaul, nd, providence, cinci, st johns, syracuse, georgetown..it really isn't that hard of a schedule, especially if you get the top teams at home.

big east is only the best because they have so many damn teams. i would actually rate acc as the toughest conference to play in because they dont have the amount of shitty teams big east has
 

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ND has the opposite of Marquette's achedule

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</td> <td class="row-text">Louisville, Ky.</td> <td class="row-text">L, 87-73 (ot)</td> </tr> <tr id="997139" title="2009,0,17,12,00,00" class="" bgcolor="#f1f1f1" valign="top"> <td class="row-text">01/17/09</td> <td class="row-text">at Syracuse *
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</td> <td class="row-text">Notre Dame, Ind.</td> <td class="row-text">L, 69-61</td> </tr> <tr id="997154" title="2009,0,26,19,00,00" class="" bgcolor="#d1d1d1" valign="top"> <td class="row-text">01/26/09</td> <td class="row-text">vs. Marquette *
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</td> <td class="row-text">Pittsburgh, Pa.</td> <td class="row-text">L, 93-80</td> </tr> <tr id="997180" title="2009,1,04,19,30,00" class="" bgcolor="#f1f1f1" valign="top"> <td class="row-text">02/04/09</td> <td class="row-text">at Cincinnati *
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</td> <td class="row-text">Cincinnati, Ohio</td> <td class="row-text">L, 93-83</td> </tr> <tr id="997192" title="2009,1,07,13,00,00" class="" bgcolor="#f1f1f1" valign="top"> <td class="row-text">02/07/09</td> <td class="row-text">at UCLA
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none of these teams would win any major conference other than maybe the sec, but the sec is terrible and shouldn't even be mentioned as a major conference.

pac 10 the best any of those three finish is 5th. big 10 the best they finish is 4th. big 12 sucks, but the best cuse, gtown or nd would finish is 4th. acc the best they would finish is like 5th or 6th.

the big east is the best conference probably, but it is incredibly overrated. three very good teams, the rest are barely above average with A LOT of shitty teams. marquette has built themselves into a top 10 team by having a joke schedule early in conference play. they haven't played pitt, ville, or uconn, got wvu at home, got gtown at home..really ZERO impressive wins by marquette so far this year and they would get crushed by top teams.

when you have games against rutgers, so florida, seton hall, depaul, nd, providence, cinci, st johns, syracuse, georgetown..it really isn't that hard of a schedule, especially if you get the top teams at home.

big east is only the best because they have so many damn teams. i would actually rate acc as the toughest conference to play in because they dont have the amount of shitty teams big east has
I have my opinions and you have yours. IMO if the ACC and Big East were to combine, teams like Duke and NC wouldn't be in the top 3.
 

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I have my opinions and you have yours. IMO if the ACC and Big East were to combine, teams like Duke and NC wouldn't be in the top 3.

unc is the best team in the nation..

there's a reason last time i checked unc was +275 and the next best was pitt at +1100
 

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unc is the best team in the nation..

there's a reason last time i checked unc was +275 and the next best was pitt at +1100
Like I said, that's your opinion.:ohno:
Doesn't make it right or wrong:lol:
 

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unc is the best team in the nation..

there's a reason last time i checked unc was +275 and the next best was pitt at +1100
Please, UNC couldn't carry UCONN's jocks.
Pretty boy Tyler would be rejected by Thabeet all night.
 

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UNC is not the best team in the country. They are the best team in the ACC but that isnt saying much. Duke is inconsistent, and neither wake or clemson are really ready to step up and be true contenders.

louisville, marquette, and Uconn are three teams out of the big east that can play and play solid night in and night out. and lets not forget pitt and nova are playing some good basketball as of late.
 

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