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Who’s Shutting Down DHS? Democrats!

Jonathan S. Tobin | @tobincommentary
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02.27.2015 - 5:30 PM

With only hours to go before the deadline for a Department of Homeland Security shutdown expired, a last minute compromise attempt to continue the funding failed late Friday afternoon. After the Senate passed a temporary spending bill to fund DHS, the House took up a measure that would keep the money flowing for three weeks until a more permanent solution can be found.

But though the White House and the rest of the Democratic Party have been citing Republican efforts to stop funding those parts of the DHS budget that enable President Obama’s executive orders granting amnesty to up to five million illegal aliens as the cause of the shutdown, when push came to shove it was the Democrats who voted overwhelming against the compromise that could have ended the standoff.

Though efforts to try again may continue through the evening and the weekend, the House vote showed that the Democratic talking points about the GOP being the party of obstruction that has been endlessly repeated by the president’s liberal mainstream media cheering section is a transparent lie.

The vote on the compromise plan was a narrow defeat for the proposal put forward by House Speaker John Boehner. But while there were significant Republican defections from their leadership’s proposal, the reason the measure failed was due to the Democrats. Republicans supported the funding by a margin of 192 to 50. But Democrats opposed it by a 172-12 vote.

Why did the Democrats who have been accusing Republicans of playing politics with funding for DHS at a time when the terrorist threat from ISIS and its sympathizers is so great vote no? The answer is simple. They were playing politics.

Rather than accept a compromise that would have kept the department funded, they chose to grandstand in favor of a bill that would have extended throughout the fiscal year. That’s their privilege but if the goal here was to ensure that DHS is funded while the leaders decide on a permanent solution to a problem created by the president’s extralegal end run around Congress on illegal immigration, then their stunt failed miserably.

The point here isn’t to say that Republicans were not doing their own grandstanding as 50 GOP members also voted no because they want no funding of DHS so long as the executive orders stand. But with almost all the Democratic caucus decided to play “chicken” with the majority and thus run the risk of defunding DHS when a compromise was there to be passed, the mainstream media’s favorite theme about Republican obstructionism just became obsolete.

Neither side is without blame in this standoff. The notion that the Republicans who are standing on principle as they seek to use their power of the purse to defund the amnesty program are the extremists while the Democrats are the adults in the room has always been pure partisan bunk. By refusing to compromise on his executive orders, the president is just as guilty of pushing the nation to the brink over DHS funding as the Republicans.

But by torpedoing a measure that would have kept the money flowing to DHS — the thing that Democrats have been telling us is the only thing that matters — the president’s party revealed themselves to be just as cynical and mindlessly partisan as anyone on the other side of the aisle.

If anything, they are far worse because they are hypocrites for decrying obstructionism while acting as the prime force behind today’s gridlock spectacle. If Republicans can be smeared as “terrorists” for holding the budget hostage to make their political points, what do we call Democrats who do the same thing?

This may not stop liberals from using the same tired meme about Congressional Republicans in the future. But if they do, honest observers will remember the DHS shutdown that illustrated just how specious Democratic claims of innocence truly are.
 

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I hope all efforts fail. It’s time for the Republicans to call Obama's bluff.

At least grannies at airports can board a plane without a cavity search.
 

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Total and complete Republican BS. Immigration is NOT an issue. That's tied up in the courts, and will be decided Judicially whether What Obama did is legal or not. Let it play out in the courts, and in the meantime fund DHS cleanly and completely for the rest of the fiscal year, not for a ridiculous 3 weeks so we can do it again. This is just a dog and pony show by Boner.
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[h=2]GOP Rep. Peter King on the potential DHS shutdown: 'People think we're crazy'[/h] by Kerry EleveldFollow for Kerry Eleveld

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GOP Rep. Peter King of New York

It's not just Senate Republicans anymore. Some GOP House members are warning that shutting down Homeland Security over Obama's 2014 immigration actions is not the work of sane people. From the New York Times:
“We can’t allow D.H.S. [to] not be funded,” said Representative Peter T. King, Republican of New York. “People think we’re crazy. There’re terrorist attacks all over the world, and we’re talking about closing down Homeland Security. This is like living in the world of the crazy people.”
We couldn't have said it better ourselves, Mr. King. According to a whip list in The Hill, at least 10 GOP House members are inclined to agree with Rep. Peter King (not to be confused with Rep. Steve King of Iowa, chair of the House crazies) and vote for a "clean" bill to fund Homeland Security. However, 15 others are on record saying, "Not gonna do it."
If Boehner puts a clean bill on the floor, he can afford to lose 28 Republicans of his 245 and still meet the 217 threshold to pass the bill.
But the other way of looking at it is that he only needs 29 Republicans to pass a clean bill if all 188 Democrats vote for it.
So in some ways, it might still come down to whether Boehner's job is more important to him than the safety of the nation—if Senate Republicans can get it together to pass the bill (Senate Democrats are ready to do it "right now," per Sen. Harry Reid this morning). Republicans might just be too busy making CPAC speeches today to fund Homeland Security.
 

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ANN COULTER TELLS IT LIKE IT IS.

GOP Double-Crossing Traitors.

Now that a federal judge has held Obama’s illegal executive amnesty unconstitutional, perhaps U.S. senators will remember that they swore to uphold the Constitution, too.

Back when they needed our votes before the last election, Republicans were hairy-chested warriors, vowing to block Obama’s unconstitutional “executive amnesty” — if only voters gave them a Senate majority. The resulting Republican landslide suggested some opposition to amnesty.

Heading into the election, college professor Dave Brat took out the sitting House majority leader and amnesty supporter Eric Cantor in a primary, despite being outspent 40-1. It was the greatest upset in history since the 1980 “Miracle on Ice” at the Lake Placid Olympics: Never before has a House majority leader been defeated in a primary. And Brat did it by an astonishing 55.5 percent to 45.5 percent.

Again, the voters seemed to be expressing disquiet with amnesty.

After that, even amnesty-supporting Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., was denouncing Obama’s executive amnesty. “If the president were to do that,” he said, “and we have a Republican majority in the United States Senate, why, we have a number of options that we don’t now have to remind him to read Article I of the Constitution.”

Poll after poll showed Americans ranking illegal immigration as the No. 1 most important problem facing the nation. We haven’t changed our minds. Last week, an Associated Press-Gfk poll showed that Obama’s single most unpopular policy is his position on illegal immigration.

In other words, Obamacare is more popular than amnesty. That’s like losing a popularity contest to Ted Bundy.

Since at least 2006, voters have insistently told pollsters they don’t want amnesty. Seemingly bulletproof Republican congressmen have lost their seats over amnesty. President Bush lost the entire House of Representatives over amnesty. What else do we have to do to convince you we don’t want amnesty, Republicans? Make it a host on “The View”?

Before the election, then-Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell complained that Obama’s decision to delay his executive amnesty until after the election was a ploy to prevent Americans from “hold(ing) his party accountable in the November elections.”

But voters went ahead and held Obama accountable! Now McConnell is Senate majority leader — and he claims his hands are tied.

McConnell’s spokesman at the National Republican Senatorial Committee, Brad Dayspring, predicted that Obama’s amnesty threat would drive voters to “elect a new Senate (that) will stand up to the president.”

Check! Mission accomplished! Done and done! Officially off our bucket list. OK, guys, your turn. When do you start standing up to the president? Hello? Hell-oooo?

To gin up votes, “Republican insiders” told the Washington Examiner last fall that “the results of the midterm elections” would determine how “aggressive” the GOP would be in fighting Obama’s amnesty.

Voters gave you a blow-out victory, Republicans. You cleaned their clocks. (Have you seen Harry Reid lately?) Where’s that promised aggression on amnesty?

Republicans and George Will tell us they can’t stand up to Obama’s executive amnesty because the media are unfair.

Oh, well, in that case … never mind.

This is news to them? They didn’t know the media were unfair when they were promising to block Obama’s illegal amnesty before the elections? The media have blamed the GOP for every failure of Republicans and Democrats to reach an agreement since the Hoover administration. This isn’t a surprise development.

Why don’t Republicans attack the media? People hate the media! Their power is eroding — and it would erode a lot faster if Congress would challenge them. Instead of submitting to the media’s blackmail, my suggestion is, take their gun away.

Tell voters what the media won’t: that Obama’s “amnesty” will give illegal aliens Social Security cards and three years of back-payments through the Earned Income Tax Credit, even though they never paid taxes in the first place.

Could we get a poll on that: Should the government issue work permits to illegal aliens and give them each $25,000 in U.S. taxpayer money? I promise you, Obama would lose that vote by at least 80-20. Even people vaguely supportive of not hounding illegal aliens out of the country didn’t sign up to open the U.S. Treasury to them.

Tell voters that the media are refusing to report that, for the past two weeks, Senate Democrats have been filibustering a bill that would defund Obama’s illegal amnesty.

Whether or not the Democrats continue to filibuster the bill containing the amnesty defund, the government won’t shut down — contrary to hysterical claims by the media and George Will. The government is funded. Only the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) will be “defunded.”

Which means, wait … I’m counting on my fingers … yes, that’s right: NOTHING.

Nearly all DHS employees are “essential” personnel required to stay on the job even if the department is defunded — the Secret Service, the Transportation Security Administration, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, Customs and Border Protection and the Coast Guard.

Approximately 200,000 of DHS’s 230,000 employees will keep working.

By “government shutdown,” the media mean: “some secretaries will not go to work.”

Why don’t Republicans spend all their airtime attacking the media for lying about what Obama’s amnesty does and what the Democrats are doing? It’s hard to avoid concluding that Republicans aren’t trying to make the right arguments. In fact, it kind of looks like they’re intentionally throwing the fight on amnesty.

If a Republican majority in both houses of Congress can’t stop Obama from issuing illegal immigrants Social Security cards and years of back welfare payments, there is no reason to vote Republican ever again.

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Politics as usual.... Scumbags on both sides just trying to grab as much money and power as possible while screwing the citizens.
 

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Politics as usual.... Scumbags on both sides just trying to grab as much money and power as possible while screwing the citizens.

Nope, that's false equivalency. On this one, one party wants to fund DHS for the fiscal year and move on. The other party has many members who want to put ridiculous restrictions on that funding, even though that issue they're hung up on is being decided in the Judicial system.
 

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Nope, that's false equivalency. On this one, one party wants to fund DHS for the fiscal year and move on. The other party has many members who want to put ridiculous restrictions on that funding, even though that issue they're hung up on is being decided in the Judicial system.

Both sides could vote it as-is and move on. then Obama could just sign a different immigration bill (which I am against, immigration should be done the right way and not a reward for being here illegally), and get it done.

Both sides would save face.

Repubs saying they are trying to stop the bill for their backers, and democrats saying they will still push it for theirs... both win.

But I leans towards Repubs on this one, cause AMERICAN employees should get paid before we do anything to help criminals who aren't even citizens and here illegally.

Still just power and money with this one.....
 

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Both sides could vote it as-is and move on. then Obama could just sign a different immigration bill (which I am against, immigration should be done the right way and not a reward for being here illegally), and get it done.

Both sides would save face.

Repubs saying they are trying to stop the bill for their backers, and democrats saying they will still push it for theirs... both win.

But I leans towards Repubs on this one, cause AMERICAN employees should get paid before we do anything to help criminals who aren't even citizens and here illegally.

Still just power and money with this one.....

As is, is a Clean Bill to fund DHS. THAT's what should be done. You can't pin this on 2 sides,, when only one is the problem on this issue. Immigration is totally a different issue, and is on a different path. It's this kind of BS that got UIEGA added on to an irrelevant bill. (R)Peter King says it better than I can.
 

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Total and complete Republican BS. Immigration is NOT an issue. That's tied up in the courts, and will be decided Judicially whether What Obama did is legal or not. Let it play out in the courts, and in the meantime fund DHS cleanly and completely for the rest of the fiscal year, not for a ridiculous 3 weeks so we can do it again. This is just a dog

Uh, actually it is an issue since the Obama Administration is ignoring the courts and moving forward in total disregard with the rule of law. Note, you care not 1 bit about this you pathetic little Obama dick-sucker.
 

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Nope, that's false equivalency. On this one, one party wants to fund DHS for the fiscal year and move on. The other party has many members who want to put ridiculous restrictions on that funding, even though that issue they're hung up on is being decided in the Judicial system.

Putting restrictions on funding and determining funding levels is the job of Congress.

There is literally no lie you will tell in service to your bullshit, idiotic political ideology. None. You are here just making shit up you stupid sewer rat.
 

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Immigration is totally a different issue, and is on a different path.

Yeah "totally different!!"

From the DHS mission Web page:

[h=1]Enforce and Administer our Immigration Laws[/h]
The Department is focused on smart and effective enforcement of U.S. immigration laws while streamlining and facilitating the legal immigration process.

http://www.dhs.gov/administer-immigration-laws

You are a fucking idiot and liar.
 

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Uh, actually it is an issue since the Obama Administration is ignoring the courts and moving forward in total disregard with the rule of law. Note, you care not 1 bit about this you pathetic little Obama dick-sucker.

Just another Lying Ace Lie, as Obama and the DHS are not ignoring the Courts, and are in fact following the ruling while preparing to appeal it. This has to go through the courts. In the meantime, The Lying Republicans are using this irrelevancy to hold innocent DHS employees and Americans hostage for another week.

"The court ruling gives Congress a good reason to pass a DHS funding bill this week, added Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas.

"No money can be used to implement the president's illegal executive action under that injunction," Cornyn said. "What we need to do this week is make sure the Department of Homeland Security is funded."

Speaking of Lies, and the Biggest Liar on this site:
What party was Donald Sterling in?
How many times did Frasier Glenn Miller/Cross run as a Democratic candidate?
Did Vit post in the Poly Forum during the year he lost a bet to not post in the poly forum?



http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/26/us-usa-congress-obama-idUSKBN0LU00120150226
[h=1]Obama says court fight on immigration actions to take months[/h]

Wed, Feb 25 2015
By Roberta Rampton
MIAMI (Reuters) - President Barack Obama said on Wednesday that he is confident his administration ultimately will win a legal battle to proceed with his executive actions on immigration, but he told an audience of young Latinos that the fight will take months.
Obama told a town hall-style audience that the Justice Department has appealed a Texas court decision stopping his move to allow as many as 4.7 million undocumented immigrants to stay in the country and obtain work permits.
“That will take a couple of months” to file and argue the case, he said.
"We expect to win," he said, promising the audience that his administration would continue to fight the case even if the appeal fails.
 

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Boner finally came to his senses, and enough Republicans did the right thing. One for the good guys. Good Job standing your ground, common sense people.

Republicans Surrender In Homeland Security Row

The vote is a resounding victory for the President and an embarrassing climbdown for his conservative antagonists.
21:56, UK, Tuesday 03 March 2015



By Sky News US Team
The Republican-controlled US Congress has sent President Barack Obama a bill to fund the Department of Homeland Security, dropping a provision to repeal his immigration policies.

The House voted 257-167 for the measure, which Mr Obama is expected to sign, in a resounding victory for him and his Democratic allies.
All 182 Democrats present voted for the $40bn (£26bn) bill, but only 75 Republicans did so.

The result underscores the limits of Republican power following their takeover of Congress this year as they try to thwart Mr Obama's unilateral actions.
Republicans have been attempting to overturn Mr Obama's executive order in November, which removed the threat of deportation for 4.7 million undocumented US residents.

A federal court ruling has temporarily blocked the administration from implementing the new rules, pending a legal challenge by a number of US states.
"I am as outraged and frustrated as you at the lawless and unconstitutional actions of this president," House Speaker John Boehner told his caucus, according to aides.
"I believe this decision - considering where we are - is the right one for this team, and the right one for this country."

The White House and Democrats had staunchly opposed conservative attempts to shoehorn into the spending bill a provision that would have spayed the president's immigration policy.
The conservative fight-back ended in disarray last week amid internal divisions that resulted in the Republican leaders of the House and Senate each proposing duelling bills.
Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle said it was madness to threaten funding for an agency that secures US borders and airports at a time of heightened concerns over terrorism.
Mr Boehner's attempts last Friday to pass a short-term measure was defeated amid a rank-and-file conservative revolt and resistance by Democrats.
In a further humiliation, he then needed the help of Democrats to get a one-week spending bill over the line.
 

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Only in crazy right wing republican world can the dems be blamed for shutting down DHS. The stupidity of conservatives and their ability to be untruthful is something that you have to see to believe.
 

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Only in crazy right wing republican world can the dems be blamed for shutting down DHS. The stupidity of conservatives and their ability to be untruthful is something that you have to see to believe.

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This is the GOP I’m starting to hate.

From here on out this is what I expect to happen.

Ever major fight involving Republicans will end this way.

First, the GOP will take a stand that enrages the Democratic opposition. Then they will back down and enrage their remaining supporters.

Then wash, rinse, repeat.
 
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This is the GOP I’m starting to hate.

From here on out this is what I expect to happen.

Ever major fight involving Republicans will end this way.

First, the GOP will take a stand that enrages the Democratic opposition. Then they will back down and enrage their remaining supporters.

Then wash, rinse, repeat.

Not funding DHS is not the way to "take a stand".
 

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Not funding DHS is not the way to "take a stand".

Not funding the DHS would of had zero impact.

Approximately 30,000 DHS employees would have been temporarily laid off, all of them non essential.

No one would have known the difference.

If you agree that the administration has run amok, then where do you suggest Congress take a stand?

If you don’t agree then is no reason for you to respond.
 

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Not funding the DHS would of had zero impact.

Approximately 30,000 DHS employees would have been temporarily laid off, all of them non essential.

No one would have known the difference.

If you agree that the administration has run amok, then where do you suggest Congress take a stand?

If you don’t agree then is no reason for you to respond.

If you don't agree don't respond.

Spoken like a true republican.
 

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