I am assuming that they either love a side from their handicapper or some top professional gambler has pushed them in that direction. I haven't charted how often they are right, but i know that more often than not, when I bet that team where i am getting plus 102 or 101, I am on the losing side. Anyone else feel the same way?
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WEEKENDALKI:
but i know that more often than not, when I bet that team where i am getting plus 102 or 101, I am on the losing side. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Don't forget, hitting only 50% at (+101) or (+102) is profitable. I agree with acssports, you're wasting your time by trying to find patterns in their various vigs.
but i know that more often than not, when I bet that team where i am getting plus 102 or 101, I am on the losing side. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Don't forget, hitting only 50% at (+101) or (+102) is profitable. I agree with acssports, you're wasting your time by trying to find patterns in their various vigs.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dead on:
I thought you were pulling out your money Alki? Making a big speech about not supporting a book that paid the hackers,well get lost punk!
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posted January 20, 2004 05:54 AM
I for one, barring Pinnacle because of my greed,(just kidding), would seriously think of pulling my money from any book that backed down to these terrorists. Anyone here have an opinion on this issue?
I REALLY LOVE IT WHEN MORONS LIKE YOU MAKE TOTAL IDIOTS PUBLICLY. I BELIEVE THAT I SAID BARRING PINNACLE BECAUSE OF MY GREED PINHEAD, LOL. AND BY THE WAY, LET'S CONTACT ANY BOOK ON THE DON BEST SCREEN AND BET AS MUCH AS YOU WOULD LIKE THAT I AM A 10K BETTER, NOT A $5.00 LIKE YOU. I WILL BE HAPPY TO HAVE JOE OR WILL FROM HOLLYWOOD POST WHO I AM AND HOW MUCH I PLAY THERE.
I thought you were pulling out your money Alki? Making a big speech about not supporting a book that paid the hackers,well get lost punk!
posted January 20, 2004 05:54 AM
I for one, barring Pinnacle because of my greed,(just kidding), would seriously think of pulling my money from any book that backed down to these terrorists. Anyone here have an opinion on this issue?
I REALLY LOVE IT WHEN MORONS LIKE YOU MAKE TOTAL IDIOTS PUBLICLY. I BELIEVE THAT I SAID BARRING PINNACLE BECAUSE OF MY GREED PINHEAD, LOL. AND BY THE WAY, LET'S CONTACT ANY BOOK ON THE DON BEST SCREEN AND BET AS MUCH AS YOU WOULD LIKE THAT I AM A 10K BETTER, NOT A $5.00 LIKE YOU. I WILL BE HAPPY TO HAVE JOE OR WILL FROM HOLLYWOOD POST WHO I AM AND HOW MUCH I PLAY THERE.
They had 2 sitting ducks tonight on college hoops and I bet them both. One was Cincy on the ML for +171 (lost), the other was Alabama-1 +101 (won)
To me Pinnacle just seems like a giant stock market. Sharps, squares, their grandmothers and gerbils bet there so it's a real mishmash. I think they often come very close to the true theoretically correct line. It's hard to get an edge against them. But I think you can if you look for the right spots. The key is to just make up your mind about a game before looking at their odds. The +101 lines have no special predictive significance IMO.
To me Pinnacle just seems like a giant stock market. Sharps, squares, their grandmothers and gerbils bet there so it's a real mishmash. I think they often come very close to the true theoretically correct line. It's hard to get an edge against them. But I think you can if you look for the right spots. The key is to just make up your mind about a game before looking at their odds. The +101 lines have no special predictive significance IMO.
I agree with Darryl. Also, one needs to be very careful about drawing erroneous conclusions.
The Ohio State/Indiana game opened at 3. (I bet Indiana +3, -103). The line moved to 2.5, and not suprisingly Ohio State became the vig favorite at that line.
Often times books are split on lines. The SB is a good example, since the line is currently "6.7". If Pinny dealt it NE -6.5 -111 (or Carolina +7 -111), I really don't think either line shows they have any real opinion on the game.
The Ohio State/Indiana game opened at 3. (I bet Indiana +3, -103). The line moved to 2.5, and not suprisingly Ohio State became the vig favorite at that line.
Often times books are split on lines. The SB is a good example, since the line is currently "6.7". If Pinny dealt it NE -6.5 -111 (or Carolina +7 -111), I really don't think either line shows they have any real opinion on the game.
you will go broke trying to use pinnacle as a don best screen. ive followed their lines almost every night for three years. they know they have a base of players who will bet any move they make, especially halftimes. i think they move a line to maybe -111. this draws in the base of squares who run it up to -118, sometimes as much as -121. at that point i watch for their insiders(guys who can call in, credit players, etc.) to buy that other side that is now +105,+110,etc. if i see the buyback i will usually get on board. more times than not in that particular situation im on the right side for better than even money. but if you just use their line moves like a d.b board you'll lose your ass. their late line moves are not even close to always in the right direction and id love to see stats that prove otherwise.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cam:
Pinny's nfl shades were golden for the most part, especially from week 4-10
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I have to agree that more often than not they are right. They have to be with the best professional gamblers in the world firing away at them every day.
Pinny's nfl shades were golden for the most part, especially from week 4-10
I have to agree that more often than not they are right. They have to be with the best professional gamblers in the world firing away at them every day.
