robert, you are in an industry that can be very profitable and promising if you handle the customers properly. BetJamaica, WSEX, and PINNY rarely/never take any heat because they don't screw around with the customer and his deposit goals. You can be here for the long haul, but your company reeks of squeaking out a profit and then bailing out. All these deposit bonuses are also a red flag, contrary to what you people think. That and the cold calls smell of desperation.
Bdgear
I posted this earlier in this thread..
No one is denying that The Iorn Horse is not involved in the Kill Carlo promotion that LazerWager is conducting. In fact is is fairly common for books to employ promotional firms or private individuals to create and run promotions such as the Kill Carlo Contest at LazerWager. Many books have entire PR firms under contract for this very function.
Personally I volantarily run three promotions a week for three diffferent books that advertise here at The Rx.com but that does not mean I work for any of those books directly and certainly doesn't mean I am paid any extra money to run these type of contests at all, (for example the 4 team parlay contests now advertised at the top of this forum) Click Here to view contests. I am paid by The Rx.com ONLY to help promote each individual sponsor that chooses to be generous enough to offer $1,000 per week to the winning qualified Rx.com poster who is lucky enough to win one of the weekly contests. There is also a weekly $1,000 Thursday Night Football Contest sponsored by LazerWager that is run by Rx.com Moderator Sportsavant. To view details click here.
Many of our sponsors use marketing firms or people to help create interest in their books. The Kill Carlo contest is one of those types of contests that was created to attract players to LazerWager and nothing more. The difference is that it is not an Rx.com only contest. They may use it at any website or advertising outlet they see fit because it is not strictly an Rx/LazerWager contest. Another example of such a contest is the BetJamaica Pick 15 Contest that is open to Rxers but also open to players from other BetJamaica advertising outlets.
LazerWager also offers other contests that are run by Rx.com Contest Coordinator Sportsavant and are only available here at The Rx.com. Click here to view details of The LazerWager Rx.com Hockey contest and Click here to view details of The Lazer Wager NBA Contest.
Marketing is a part of nearly every business in the world, internet or not and this "Kill Carlo" promotion is simpy another example of marketing a product for a company to attract new customers, there is nothing sinister happeneing here..
wilheim.
I posted this earlier in this thread..
No one is denying that The Iorn Horse is not involved in the Kill Carlo promotion that LazerWager is conducting. In fact is is fairly common for books to employ promotional firms or private individuals to create and run promotions such as the Kill Carlo Contest at LazerWager. Many books have entire PR firms under contract for this very function.
Personally I volantarily run three promotions a week for three diffferent books that advertise here at The Rx.com but that does not mean I work for any of those books directly and certainly doesn't mean I am paid any extra money to run these type of contests at all, (for example the 4 team parlay contests now advertised at the top of this forum) Click Here to view contests. I am paid by The Rx.com ONLY to help promote each individual sponsor that chooses to be generous enough to offer $1,000 per week to the winning qualified Rx.com poster who is lucky enough to win one of the weekly contests. There is also a weekly $1,000 Thursday Night Football Contest sponsored by LazerWager that is run by Rx.com Moderator Sportsavant. To view details click here.
Many of our sponsors use marketing firms or people to help create interest in their books. The Kill Carlo contest is one of those types of contests that was created to attract players to LazerWager and nothing more. The difference is that it is not an Rx.com only contest. They may use it at any website or advertising outlet they see fit because it is not strictly an Rx/LazerWager contest. Another example of such a contest is the BetJamaica Pick 15 Contest that is open to Rxers but also open to players from other BetJamaica advertising outlets.
LazerWager also offers other contests that are run by Rx.com Contest Coordinator Sportsavant and are only available here at The Rx.com. Click here to view details of The LazerWager Rx.com Hockey contest and Click here to view details of The Lazer Wager NBA Contest.
Marketing is a part of nearly every business in the world, internet or not and this "Kill Carlo" promotion is simpy another example of marketing a product for a company to attract new customers, there is nothing sinister happeneing here..
wilheim.
wilheim
i can read can you? it doesnt add up
:toast:
you can post whatever you want read what is said and what i said
ironhorse states he is just a handicapper thats fine
how does he get the players info to post about what the player has played towards a rollover?
LMFAO!:toast:
<table id="post4630990" class="tborder" align="center" border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td class="thead" style="border-style: solid none solid solid; border-color: rgb(253, 222, 130) -moz-use-text-color rgb(253, 222, 130) rgb(253, 222, 130); border-width: 1px 0px 1px 1px; font-weight: normal;"> 10-21-2007, 08:16 PM <!-- / status icon and date --> </td> <td class="thead" style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: rgb(253, 222, 130) rgb(253, 222, 130) rgb(253, 222, 130) -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 0px; font-weight: normal;" align="right"> #25 </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td class="alt2" style="border-style: none solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color rgb(253, 222, 130); border-width: 0px 1px;" width="175"> TheIronHorse <script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_4630990", true); </script>
RX Junior
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Cleveland
Posts: 10
</td> <td class="alt1" id="td_post_4630990" style="border-right: 1px solid rgb(253, 222, 130);"> <!-- icon and title -->
<hr style="color: rgb(253, 222, 130);" size="1"> <!-- / icon and title --> <!-- message --> I am NOT a wagering supervisor. I am not employeed in any way by LazerWager. I only provide a selections, articles, contest stuff for them. I've been a public handicapper, and only a handicapper, since 1992. (they call me for my quote/thought on a topic and then post it for me....Just to clairify the situation</td></tr></tbody> </table>
same guy above just stated they call him? next they say he is in office visiting:think2:
no matter if above is true or not he still posted this
<table id="post4607907" class="tborder" align="center" border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td class="thead" style="border-style: solid none solid solid; border-color: rgb(253, 222, 130) -moz-use-text-color rgb(253, 222, 130) rgb(253, 222, 130); border-width: 1px 0px 1px 1px; font-weight: normal;">
10-16-2007, 07:09 PM <!-- / status icon and date --> </td> <td class="thead" style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: rgb(253, 222, 130) rgb(253, 222, 130) rgb(253, 222, 130) -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 0px; font-weight: normal;" align="right"> #8 </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td class="alt2" style="border-style: none solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color rgb(253, 222, 130); border-width: 0px 1px;" width="175"> TheIronHorse <script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_4607907", true); </script>
RX Junior
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Cleveland
Posts: 10
</td> <td class="alt1" id="td_post_4607907" style="border-right: 1px solid rgb(253, 222, 130);"> <!-- icon and title -->
LazerWager Withdrawal Policy
<hr style="color: rgb(253, 222, 130);" size="1"> <!-- / icon and title --> <!-- message --> FIrst off, this player has made 63..yes, 63 wagers since getting credited with the $250 Kill Carlo prize money. That in itself has made it impossible to correctly keep track of where the money actually came from when making these wagers.
With that said, this player's account balance was 50% LESS of the amount of the withdrawal request (before the additional $250 contest money was added). Therefore, there is NO QUESTION that at least HALF of the money which would be sent out would have come from contest winnings.
Third, the contest clearly states the rollover and 30 day requirements. The money was issued last Monday, October 8th. Said money has only been in account 8 days now.
Fourth, the money in the account that is NOT from the $250 contest winnings also includes a 100%...yes, 100% depsoit bonus, of which THAT ROLLOVER HAS NOT YET BEEN MET!!!
So....The player is not entitled to a withdrawal at this time. He was politely told that if his rollover requirment was met in the next 22 days (contest rule) that he could withdrawal ALL of his money if he wanted without any issues or problems.
ONCE AGAIN...it's NOT ALWAYS the books fault!!!!</td></tr></tbody> </table>
again how does a paid handicaper from cleveland know this about a customer:think2:
<table id="post4607918" class="tborder" align="center" border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td class="thead" style="border-style: solid none solid solid; border-color: rgb(253, 222, 130) -moz-use-text-color rgb(253, 222, 130) rgb(253, 222, 130); border-width: 1px 0px 1px 1px; font-weight: normal;"> 10-16-2007, 07:10 PM <!-- / status icon and date --> </td> <td class="thead" style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: rgb(253, 222, 130) rgb(253, 222, 130) rgb(253, 222, 130) -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 0px; font-weight: normal;" align="right"> #9 </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td class="alt2" style="border-style: none solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color rgb(253, 222, 130); border-width: 0px 1px;" width="175"> TheIronHorse <script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_4607918", true); </script>
RX Junior
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Cleveland
Posts: 10
</td> <td class="alt1" id="td_post_4607918" style="border-right: 1px solid rgb(253, 222, 130);"> <!-- icon and title -->
<hr style="color: rgb(253, 222, 130);" size="1"> <!-- / icon and title --> <!-- message --> Quote:
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border: 1px inset ;"> Originally Posted by bigtex
I just received my WU NTC number a few minutes ago for my 3rd payout in two weeks.
Customer service has been great.
Thanks Rx and Lazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzerwager!
</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
THANKS BIG TEX FOR THE COMMENT!!!
We'll make sure that you get paid on time...everytime! That's the Payout Guaranteed offered and we stick by it!</td></tr></tbody> </table>
last time i post about this if people cant figure out this doesnt add :missingte
i can read can you? it doesnt add up
:toast:
you can post whatever you want read what is said and what i said
ironhorse states he is just a handicapper thats fine
how does he get the players info to post about what the player has played towards a rollover?
LMFAO!:toast:
<table id="post4630990" class="tborder" align="center" border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td class="thead" style="border-style: solid none solid solid; border-color: rgb(253, 222, 130) -moz-use-text-color rgb(253, 222, 130) rgb(253, 222, 130); border-width: 1px 0px 1px 1px; font-weight: normal;"> 10-21-2007, 08:16 PM <!-- / status icon and date --> </td> <td class="thead" style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: rgb(253, 222, 130) rgb(253, 222, 130) rgb(253, 222, 130) -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 0px; font-weight: normal;" align="right"> #25 </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td class="alt2" style="border-style: none solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color rgb(253, 222, 130); border-width: 0px 1px;" width="175"> TheIronHorse <script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_4630990", true); </script>
RX Junior
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Cleveland
Posts: 10
</td> <td class="alt1" id="td_post_4630990" style="border-right: 1px solid rgb(253, 222, 130);"> <!-- icon and title -->
<hr style="color: rgb(253, 222, 130);" size="1"> <!-- / icon and title --> <!-- message --> I am NOT a wagering supervisor. I am not employeed in any way by LazerWager. I only provide a selections, articles, contest stuff for them. I've been a public handicapper, and only a handicapper, since 1992. (they call me for my quote/thought on a topic and then post it for me....Just to clairify the situation</td></tr></tbody> </table>
same guy above just stated they call him? next they say he is in office visiting:think2:
no matter if above is true or not he still posted this
<table id="post4607907" class="tborder" align="center" border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td class="thead" style="border-style: solid none solid solid; border-color: rgb(253, 222, 130) -moz-use-text-color rgb(253, 222, 130) rgb(253, 222, 130); border-width: 1px 0px 1px 1px; font-weight: normal;">
RX Junior
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Cleveland
Posts: 10
</td> <td class="alt1" id="td_post_4607907" style="border-right: 1px solid rgb(253, 222, 130);"> <!-- icon and title -->
<hr style="color: rgb(253, 222, 130);" size="1"> <!-- / icon and title --> <!-- message --> FIrst off, this player has made 63..yes, 63 wagers since getting credited with the $250 Kill Carlo prize money. That in itself has made it impossible to correctly keep track of where the money actually came from when making these wagers.
With that said, this player's account balance was 50% LESS of the amount of the withdrawal request (before the additional $250 contest money was added). Therefore, there is NO QUESTION that at least HALF of the money which would be sent out would have come from contest winnings.
Third, the contest clearly states the rollover and 30 day requirements. The money was issued last Monday, October 8th. Said money has only been in account 8 days now.
Fourth, the money in the account that is NOT from the $250 contest winnings also includes a 100%...yes, 100% depsoit bonus, of which THAT ROLLOVER HAS NOT YET BEEN MET!!!
So....The player is not entitled to a withdrawal at this time. He was politely told that if his rollover requirment was met in the next 22 days (contest rule) that he could withdrawal ALL of his money if he wanted without any issues or problems.
ONCE AGAIN...it's NOT ALWAYS the books fault!!!!</td></tr></tbody> </table>
again how does a paid handicaper from cleveland know this about a customer:think2:
<table id="post4607918" class="tborder" align="center" border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td class="thead" style="border-style: solid none solid solid; border-color: rgb(253, 222, 130) -moz-use-text-color rgb(253, 222, 130) rgb(253, 222, 130); border-width: 1px 0px 1px 1px; font-weight: normal;"> 10-16-2007, 07:10 PM <!-- / status icon and date --> </td> <td class="thead" style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: rgb(253, 222, 130) rgb(253, 222, 130) rgb(253, 222, 130) -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 0px; font-weight: normal;" align="right"> #9 </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td class="alt2" style="border-style: none solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color rgb(253, 222, 130); border-width: 0px 1px;" width="175"> TheIronHorse <script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_4607918", true); </script>
RX Junior
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Cleveland
Posts: 10
</td> <td class="alt1" id="td_post_4607918" style="border-right: 1px solid rgb(253, 222, 130);"> <!-- icon and title -->
<hr style="color: rgb(253, 222, 130);" size="1"> <!-- / icon and title --> <!-- message --> Quote:
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border: 1px inset ;"> Originally Posted by bigtex
I just received my WU NTC number a few minutes ago for my 3rd payout in two weeks.
Customer service has been great.
Thanks Rx and Lazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzerwager!
</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
THANKS BIG TEX FOR THE COMMENT!!!
We'll make sure that you get paid on time...everytime! That's the Payout Guaranteed offered and we stick by it!</td></tr></tbody> </table>
last time i post about this if people cant figure out this doesnt add :missingte
Hello... I believe the answer is simply that Carlo "The Iron Horse" is the face and moderator of the contest bearing his name and an issue came up regarding a payout from a contest winner.- We therefore give Carlo the right to review the entrants and payouts to the winners. I hope that clears it up and at the time he was still here.
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