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As a retired player with $MILLIONS AND $MILLIONS--what difference does it make? He ain't going to jail either way-?
 

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As a retired player with $MILLIONS AND $MILLIONS--what difference does it make? He ain't going to jail either way-?

Hassle of having to deal with it, his legacy and the HOF, if he cares about either (which, by all indications, he does).
 
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that isn't "real solid proof", that is exactly what I said, he said, she said. real solid proof would be checks, picture of a needle in his ass, failed tests, drugs, fedex deliveries to his house/clubhouse. I'm not saying Clemens is clean, but it is exactly what I said and Clemens will likely deny, claiming the guy is lying and saying it under duress and threat of prosecution, blah blah blah. All lies I am sure, but that is what he will likely say.

the only people who know are him and mcnamee.

and you are right, there is no tangible proof, importantly no checks that were so prominantly put in the report. and of course, there is no failed drug test, since, ya know, IT WASN'T BANNED OR TESTED FOR AT THE TIME!

so it comes down to strictly one persons word against another. is that enough to put it in a report and tarnish a HOF career? i guess thats in the eye of the beholder, but i think that this entire report has alot of holes and question marks...
 

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His lawyer was just on the news here locally and he stated that the same guy had stated earlier in the year that Clemens has never used steroids.
 
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His lawyer was just on the news here locally and he stated that the same guy had stated earlier in the year that Clemens has never used steroids.


that is true....... mcnamee was very quick to clear his name a few months ago. amazing how things will change when the feds come in and threaten you with jail time. who knows if what he says is true.
 

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the guy who spoke out to mitchell said he injected him in the ass at his skydome apartment multiple times.

You sure it was steroids?
 

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This Prick has been on the juice for years...I dont need the inept MLB to tell me who and who wasnt on the juice...the public should have figured this out the minute Brady Anderson hit his 50th homer...back in 96....What kind of idiot mistakes a bat for a ball?.......lol....fuck Clemons..I respect his game regardless if he took them or not...but this guys card needs to be pulled...hes a bigger jackass than Bonds ever was....
 
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This Prick has been on the juice for years...I dont need the inept MLB to tell me who and who wasnt on the juice...the public should have figured this out the minute Brady Anderson hit his 50th homer...back in 96....What kind of idiot mistakes a bat for a ball?.......lol....fuck Clemons..I respect his game regardless if he took them or not...but this guys card needs to be pulled...hes a bigger jackass than Bonds ever was....


who is 'clemons'

and as for the ball- he picked up the bat, thinking it was the ball. then when he realized it wasn't the ball, tossed it away.
 

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who is 'clemons'

and as for the ball- he picked up the bat, thinking it was the ball. then when he realized it wasn't the ball, tossed it away.

naw he threw it at Piazza's head....lol...it was hilarious but if I was Piazza I would have put my foot in his ear....bad enough he gets beaned 30 times a year...but now he gotta hit by a flying bat from a juiced up pitcher no less....Christ...
 

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The 8th Wonder of the World (actually 8th joke of the World is the Baseball Hall of Fame!) No Pete Rose--what else. Yet maybe Roger won't have to sign baseball cards for $10. autographs!
 

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he has reported thru his agent that he did not use steroids.


i believe. and dont care if he did

he's still the games top draw ands one helluva pitcher
 

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All this shit kinda makes Pete (Rose) look like a saint to me. lol
 
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All this shit kinda makes Pete (Rose) look like a saint to me. lol


well, actually what pete rose did was worse. he broke one of baseball's rules. as stupid as it sounds, most of the time period being discussed, steriods weren't banned or tested for by MLB.
 

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Maybe Clemens should sue since he is so innocent :103631605

Maybe this trainer should challenge him in public to take a lit detector test :103631605
 

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well, actually what pete rose did was worse. he broke one of baseball's rules. as stupid as it sounds, most of the time period being discussed, steriods weren't banned or tested for by MLB.

Another idiotic Boston fan closing his eyes to the obvious. Rose made a mistake as a coach, not a player, and he gambled on the game; he didn't cheat it.

Clemens cheated and stole awards and records from people who won honestly. Clemens hurt the game 1000000 more than Rose ever did.
 
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Another idiotic Boston fan closing his eyes to the obvious. Rose made a mistake as a coach, not a player, and he gambled on the game; he didn't cheat it.

Clemens cheated and stole awards and records from people who won honestly. Clemens hurt the game 1000000 more than Rose ever did.


you are an idiot, plain and simple. first off, clemens is hated in boston, so i don't know what that has to do with anything.

pete rose broke baseball's rule: no gambling on baseball, and it was proven.

at the time clemens did steroids: THEY WEREN'T BANNED BY MLB! he didn't break any of the sports rules!

therefore, one broke a rule of the sport, the other didn't.

and by no means am i saying clemens is innocent, but there is absolutely no proof he did anything, unlike rose.
 

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you are an idiot, plain and simple. first off, clemens is hated in boston, so i don't know what that has to do with anything.

pete rose broke baseball's rule: no gambling on baseball, and it was proven.

at the time clemens did steroids: THEY WEREN'T BANNED BY MLB! he didn't break any of the sports rules!

therefore, one broke a rule of the sport, the other didn't.

and by no means am i saying clemens is innocent, but there is absolutely no proof he did anything, unlike rose.

Wait? They were banned AUTOMATICALLY. It was a given that they were banned. Want to know why? Because they were fucking illegal ass clown. Just because murdering someone on the field isn't against the MLB play book doesn't mean the league wouldn't ban the player.

Where in the NFL rule book does it say you can't fight dogs? Oh wait it doesn't but odds are Vick will be suspended from the league for the incident because it is against the fucking law.

I think it is much worse to break a rule of the nation than a rule of the sport. And Clemens did steroids while they were illegal. What you think he suddenly stopped when baseball made it illegal haha? Is that what you think? You think his sub 3 ERA at the age of 43 with Houston was done legitimately. He was just like oh I don't need them anymore?

He is just as bad as Bonds, if not worse. It's funny I bet you were one of the people that ripped bonds to shreds.

Wait Bonds never failed a drug test did he? So there is no proof, but he was forced to testify in front of a grand jury where he had to admit to using steroids. Lets put Clemens in front of a grand juror and see what he says.

CLEMENS IS A CHEATER, LIAR, and CROOK.

And there is plenty of proof. A guy who is under investigation and more than likely wouldn't lie because he could face more charges, said he shot Clemens up with Steroids.
 
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Wait? They were banned AUTOMATICALLY. It was a given that they were banned. Want to know why? Because they were fucking illegal ass clown. Just because murdering someone on the field isn't against the MLB play book doesn't mean the league wouldn't ban the player.

Where in the NFL rule book does it say you can't fight dogs? Oh wait it doesn't but odds are Vick will be suspended from the league for the incident because it is against the fucking law.

I think it is much worse to break a rule of the nation than a rule of the sport. And Clemens did steroids while they were illegal. What you think he suddenly stopped when baseball made it illegal haha? Is that what you think? You think his sub 3 ERA at the age of 43 with Houston was done legitimately. He was just like oh I don't need them anymore?

He is just as bad as Bonds, if not worse. It's funny I bet you were one of the people that ripped bonds to shreds.

Wait Bonds never failed a drug test did he? So there is no proof, but he was forced to testify in front of a grand jury where he had to admit to using steroids. Lets put Clemens in front of a grand juror and see what he says.

CLEMENS IS A CHEATER, LIAR, and CROOK.

And there is plenty of proof. A guy who is under investigation and more than likely wouldn't lie because he could face more charges, said he shot Clemens up with Steroids.

so what rose did was illegal too, so you argument still isn't valid.

and i never ripped into bonds. as obvious as it is he did it, so what. if MLB didn't care, why should I? the whole game was rampant with the shit, and I see no point in singling anyone out.
 

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so what rose did was illegal too, so you argument still isn't valid.

and i never ripped into bonds. as obvious as it is he did it, so what. if MLB didn't care, why should I? the whole game was rampant with the shit, and I see no point in singling anyone out.

Why is it obvious that Bonds did it but not Clemens? Your biased opinion is a joke.

Also Rose cheating didn't affect the game in any way, shape, or form. It has been proven he never bet against his team.

Roger cheated the game and affected how it was played. Rose didn't. Rose's crime was much less than Roger's.

Roger is about as clear of a cheater as Bonds.
 
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Why is it obvious that Bonds did it but not Clemens? Your biased opinion is a joke.

Also Rose cheating didn't affect the game in any way, shape, or form. It has been proven he never bet against his team.

Roger cheated the game and affected how it was played. Rose didn't. Rose's crime was much less than Roger's.

Roger is about as clear of a cheater as Bonds.

clemens wasn't part of balco. they don't have the records and calenders like they do with bonds and anderson.

all they have is an ex-trainers word. who's to say who is lying? is an ex-trainer trying to avoid jailtime really evidence? there are no cancelled checks or fedex shipments like they have on the other guys on the list today.

to think he is innocent is naive, but this evidence is nowhere near is bad as it is to bonds.


and like i said, i really could care less if any of these guys used, and it is a witch hunt, mostly to make uncle bud look good.
 

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