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ucle steve here's a simple formula from bob mccune's book which shows you how to rate the teams.. there are two different methods bob talks about in his book, this is the much simpler method.

"an effective formula we use is to first take the batting average and add it to the on-base percentage and divide by 2. This becomes FACTOR A. FACTOR B is determined by taking the total bases, times runs scored, divided by games played. FACTOR A + Factor B becomes FACTOR C. The final power index number is achieved by dividing factor C by runs allowed."

All of the information that you will need to use can be found on USATODAY's website, just go to the baseball stats section and click on the archives and you can get many of the past season's stats.. i think it's under "team batting/pitching statistics"

Now you have an overall power number but then you need to figure out an estimated runs allowed by both teams. I like to use XERA or FIP ERA as it has more predictive power than regular ERA.. I estimate how many innings the starter will pitch.. if i say he pitches 6 innings i take 6/9 * XERA.. then i find the bullpen's home or road ERA and multiply that by (3/9).. Now you must also account for unearned runs. On the usatoday site just take runs - earned runs, and divide that number by the amound of games played.
If you are betting on totals you need to make an adjustment for the effects of the ballpark.. that equation i can find for you, it is in michael murray's book, "betting baseball".
So if i figure out that the yankees are going to give up 4.6 runs i take their team index number (the first equation) and divide that number by 4.6 and lets say i end up with a number of 38.9 (this is the number i have for today's game with pettite pitching). And for the devil rays i have a number of 17.57.. I take 38.9/17.57 and that gives me 2.21.. then i had a home field advantage of 11 cents (home field is generally 18 cents but the pitching numbers i use take home and road into account) so now for this actual game i have a line of Yankees -232, devil rays +232.
Now for bet sizing purposes i use a conservative kelly criterion fraction.. i use 1/6 kelly because i don't plan on going broke.. so let's assume my bankroll is 1000 dollars.. the proper kelly bet at 1/6 kelly with my line of +232 and the line i'm betting into at let's say +260 would be $5.28.. using kelly your bets on large underdogs are going to be much smaller than bets on favorites...it is mathematically sound however.
You need to be able to make subjective adjustments to your line as well.. how does one team fare against left handed pitchers? how good is team A on the road? in day games? etc etc.. so you would make your adjustments to the line by either adding cents for the favorite or taking away cents.
I hope this helps you

hopefully you have a program like excel to do most of the work for you

WOW. Thanks a bunch. this will give me something to do, something new to LEARN.

I can't thank you enough.

I love new stuff, and it's gonna be fun trying this out. I hope you stay in touch and let me know how it is working for you. Once I get familiar with it, I'll let you know. I'll keep some good records, as well.

Forgive the slight rant-post. Gets frustrating sometimes when you put hard work into something, and it gets run over by a drunk cab driver. Or, a bulldozer. OR, worse yet = a bullpen guy!

LOL. You know what I mean.

I'm going to work on this starting tomorrow. Is it OK to bug you if I have any more questions ???? Thanks in advance.

Hey, and good luck to you all season long.

Uncle Steve in Texas = (feeling weekend-ish)
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so far using basically this method, i'm up about 5.5 units on moneylines on the games i have chosen to bet. this method obviously becomes a lot more accurate when you can use statistics from the current season. If teams made significant improvements during the offseason then it would be important to adjust last year's team index number or to just not bet on those games yet. For instance, i have yet to bet on cubs games because i want to wait and see just how good they are


News = thanks, again. Really appreciate the info.

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yeah no problem man. this is actually my first year applying this method to baseball.. I sort of adapted my own ratings to use in hockey by the end of the season and had a ridiculously good ROI of 32% and i made around 25 units.. but i'm just a micro bettor and i took most of my money out and now just am playing with 500 bucks and i'm trying to build it up a bit. i was at 370 before hockey and that worked out well so hopefully the same thing can happen for bases.

The book i'm referring to is Education of a Sportsbettor by bob mccune. I don't know how well the nba methods work as i just can't figure out hoops. Plus most of the articles were written back in the 80's and 90's and whatever edge the basketball methods secured probably don't exist anymore, the nba is tough i think. The book is basically a compilated bunch of articles he's written for various magazines i suppose. In one article of the baseball method he uses the formula and method i just gave you (he doesn't mention anything about xera though)... but in another article he explains how he makes a line and i'd be happy to explain that to you in an email. I used the statistics from this past season and made the offensive power ratings for the second method.. the only problem i had with this method was that it doesn't create enough of a gap from the top team to the bottom team. it seemed you would play the underdog almost everytime a team was -170 or higher.
The one thing that concerns me about the method i explained to you is that in theory it would be considered "double handicapping". this is because you divide by a runs allowed factor twice.. first in dividing FACTOR C by runs allowed and then by dividing that number by your expected runs allowed for the game. plus many of the runs that are found in runs allowed were not due to one starting pitcher or the defense. the other four starters accounted for this and since they aren't playing in the game their contribution shouldn't matter.
In the hockey method i made there is no double handicapping.. i have one offensive power number and that is divided by the goals allowed average (home or road) for the starting goalie.
If this baseball method does continue to work i suppose the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" comes into play and it would be best to just leave it alone.
I'd love to talk with you about this some more.. ask wilheim for my email, but if you want a hint it's my rx username @hotmail.com

i can't talk a ton about this with too many people simply because most aren't willing to actually do the work that's required in handicapping.. a lot of people come on to forums looking for an easy way to strike it big w/out much effort.
 

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My friend has a theory he came up with one night while we were drinking heavily.

He said "Its simple really to make money on sports. Just increase your units on your winners".

Easy enough?:)
 

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so far using basically this method, i'm up about 5.5 units on moneylines on the games i have chosen to bet. this method obviously becomes a lot more accurate when you can use statistics from the current season. If teams made significant improvements during the offseason then it would be important to adjust last year's team index number or to just not bet on those games yet. For instance, i have yet to bet on cubs games because i want to wait and see just how good they are

would like an update on your system bro. Are you still making out?
 

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oh hey manchild.. i'm still grinding it out right now, i'm up a little over 7 units (7.2) and it's been going okay for me. That tampa bay game i discussed in the first post was a real nice bet for me as i got them at +294 one thing i forgot to mention is that if you do use the method i described (from bob mccune) earlier to rate the teams you need to separate the NL from the AL.. when interleague comes i may just take a break or something, not sure yet. Right now i'm using the data from last season and once we get a month into the season i feel that my numbers will be much more accurate. i'm looking into totals right now as well but i'm gonna have to do some testing to see how that turns out.. thanks for asking manchild good luck to you. if you want to discuss anything i gave a hint of what my email is in this thread, or you can just ask wilheim.
good luck
 

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interleague system: bet american..

lol

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oh hey manchild.. i'm still grinding it out right now, i'm up a little over 7 units (7.2) and it's been going okay for me. That tampa bay game i discussed in the first post was a real nice bet for me as i got them at +294 one thing i forgot to mention is that if you do use the method i described (from bob mccune) earlier to rate the teams you need to separate the NL from the AL.. when interleague comes i may just take a break or something, not sure yet. Right now i'm using the data from last season and once we get a month into the season i feel that my numbers will be much more accurate. i'm looking into totals right now as well but i'm gonna have to do some testing to see how that turns out.. thanks for asking manchild good luck to you. if you want to discuss anything i gave a hint of what my email is in this thread, or you can just ask wilheim.
good luck

Thxs bro!
 

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