Marco said:Outside of seizing management personnel and freezing/seizing assets.....what can the US do if the staff never visit the US and the books have their assets out of the grubby reach of US govt?
How sovereign are foreign banks and banking systems?
Of course, if the US just decides to invade their country, then (pardon the pun) most bets are off.
Marco said:"Sheesh! Gimme your odds on invading Costa Rica to stop internet gambling."
Probably wouldn't go there just for that reason....but if we were in the neighborhood......I wouldn't put it past the US govt to overstep sovereign borders or take on impossible expeditions.....(impossible expeditions: Iraq and democracy, not to introduce politics to this thread)......
Noreiga got a wake up call one night in Panama from the dudes in helicopters who don't bother to knock on doors.....what was that over....drugs? You figure anyone here would just care less if some major US head of state was simply kidnapped and hauled off to some foreign country and thrown in jail?
Noreiga was just one example.....plenty of stories about countries getting invaded by the world cops flying American flags....
I love wrapping you guys around your own words. When the insults come, I know you've thrown in the towel.Marco said:"You didn't answer the question."
Absolutely did, in my first sentence: "probably wouldn't go there just for that reason..."
My tort about invading foreign countries was stated mainly out of sarcasm and US policy, not that we live to just go around kicking the doors of gamblers down.
Drop the bong and read some tonality into what I said in my initial response to this thread, Mr 46 post guy.:howdy:
The bottom line is that telephone wagering is dangerous for operators, and so for players.Santo said:The US didn't shut down BOS... BOS shut down BOS. The US had no power or means to enforce he TRO other than having Carruthers in custody.
BetOnSports’s problems were lovingly recorded back in 2002 by the St Petersburg Times in Florida: “Four men stood near a garishly painted motor home parked in front of Raymond James Stadium. It was Sunday, Buccaneers game day.
“They tossed footballs, T-shirts and hats to the throngs of fans walking into the stadium. ‘Action you can bet on!’ said the letters on the side of the motor home. ‘World’s Largest, Legal and Licensed Sports Book.’ Two Tampa police detectives who passed by the display disagreed . . .”
The policemen walked into the mobile home, placed a bet on the American football team, then pulled out their badges and arrested four men taking bets ranging from $25 to $100,000.
The four men, working for the Miami company Mobile Promotions, had been hired to advertise and promote the betting site, Mr Carruthers said.Then he made his fateful error. He bragged that he had asked the company to drive another mobile home, emblazoned with the BetOnSports name, to the forthcoming St Louis Rams match against the Seattle Seahawks.
That journey to the Midwest state was a trip into the lion’s den. The US Attorney for the Eastern District of Missouri had just begun a crusade against online gaming. That campaign married old-style temperance zeal with an imaginative use of the legislative armoury. The attorney even employed the Patriot Act, which bans transmitting funds from lawbreaking, to make eBay forfeit $10 million taken by its PayPal service for online gaming companies.
In the BoS case you're right but if this is the start of a crackdown then if the Leach bill doesn't pass the Senate they will go after phone operators as for the Wire Act there are cases that support their position for sports so I don't agree that phones and Internet are the same.sean1 said:Internet or phone makes no difference.
The DOJ did not shut down BOS. BOS chose to shut down.
WSEX, Goldmedalsports, and WWTS have all been indicted and did not skip a beat.
The US government has no legal right to make sportsbooks offshore shut down.
sean1 said:I should also add -
I do not think the DOJ thought indicting BOS would cause them not to pay US players. The DOJ likely thought they would pay right away.
If offshores make $12,000,000,000 from US players each year (And most think that is a low estimate) they hold far more than $12,000,000,000 offshore. Costing the US generally public many times $12B is not good for the economy.
-Sean
If offshores make $12,000,000,000 from US players each year (And most think that is a low estimate) they hold far more than $12,000,000,000 offshore. Costing the US generally public many times $12B is not good for the economy.