Western Union Deposit DENIED by Sportsbook?

[GoBlue34]

Long story short I mainly use Matchbook but wanted to try another solid book and my 2 check/debit cards weren't working so I thought I would give Western Union a shot.

Took a dime in cash down to the local Western Union depot (one of those check cashing places) gave them the first last and 2nd last name and the location.

Got my control number, back to work and the book to ensure they got it. After they didn't get it for a couple hours I asked what the hold up was and the manager said I paid for it via credit card so they can't pick it up?

I paid cash but the book told me there was no way they could prove that so I had to cancel the transaction. Come to find out I lose the fee I paid to transfer the money if I cancel the transaction. So I did cancel it and it's not a ton of money but I don't really want to lose the fee money again.

Western Union also asked why I was canceling and I told them they couldn't pick up the money because it wasn't cash. They started asking questions so I simply told them I wired them the money so I don't need to do it anymore.

Anyone else ever run into this? Was supposed to be a quick post...

 

[Doug]

You won't be able to deposit anywhere come Dec 1st., when Uigea ENFORCEMENT kicks in. It's voluntary now.

Game is over ( for US players).

 

[silver7]

WU Dep.

I use my CC all the time to dep. over the phone. NEVER fails.

 

[patswin]

You won't be able to deposit anywhere come Dec 1st., when Uigea ENFORCEMENT kicks in. It's voluntary now.

Game is over ( for US players).

Doug where did you see this?

 

[tatehill2000]

doug, Patswin, check this out

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UIGEA

its written up pretty well.

tater

 

[PO69]

And who said that OBAMA would actually help internet gambling.


Hell everything has gotten worse since Obama has taken office

 

[silver7]

It's Obvious

OBAMA'S hands were tied. It's getting too hard to conduct $$ transactions unless something changes!

 

[Doug]

Doug where did you see this?

UIGEA Regulations Approved

By Dan Cypra for POKER NEWS DAILY | Posted on November 13, 2008

Once again, last minute actions were taken regarding the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act (UIGEA). In the waning moments of the 2006 Congressional session, the UIGEA was attached to the SAFE Port Act, an unrelated port security bill, and passed by unanimous consent in the Senate. On Wednesday, the regulations of the UIGEA were finalized as part of so-called midnight rule-making by the Bush Administration and will be implemented on January 19, 2009, one day before Barack Obama is sworn in as the 44th President of the United States.
Banks and other financial institutions have until December 1st, 2009 to comply with the UIGEA rules. However, its regulations still do not spell out what is illegal and legal under the law, instead deferring to existing state and federal statutes. The rules read, “Creating such a list [of what is legal and what is not] would require the Agencies to formally interpret those laws that are written and enforced by other entities… The Agencies believe that appropriate due diligence conducted by participants opening accounts would be the most effective method for preventing unlawful internet gambling businesses from gaining access to the payment system.” You can view the full UIGEA regulations by visiting the website of the Poker Players Alliance (PPA).
The UIGEA defines a bet as “the staking or risking by any person of something of value upon the outcome of a contest of others, a sporting event, or a game subject to chance.” Fantasy sports receive an exemption in the following language: “Participation in any fantasy or simulation sports game or educational game” is allowed, subject to certain restrictions which the fantasy sports industry has had to adopt. These include up-front prize declarations and rosters not being composed of every player from a certain team.
The definition that the poker and political worlds have been talking about is that of “unlawful internet gambling.” The UIGEA states that the term refers to a “bet or wager [that is] unlawful under any applicable Federal or State law in the State or Tribal lands in which the bet or wager is initiated, received, or otherwise made.” Any bets allowed under the Interstate Horseracing Act of 1978 are allowed, although Congressman Barney Frank, the Chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, stated in a mark-up hearing that online horse racing’s legality ultimately “depended on which department you asked.”
The lack of clarity as to what is allowed under the UIGEA is noted multiple times in the final regulations. HR 6870, the second version of the Payments System Protection Act, sought to develop a list of what is permissible under the law. In September, the bill passed by a 30-19 vote in the House Financial Services Committee. With a lame duck session potentially beginning next week, the attention of Congress will most likely center on the faltering economy. If HR 6870 is not acted upon prior to the adjournment for 2008, it must be reintroduced in 2009.
An article that appeared on Politico outlined some hope for the online poker industry. The piece described the significance of the Congressional Review Act of 1996: “The law contains a clause determining that any regulation finalized within 60 legislative days of congressional adjournment is considered to have been legally finalized on the 15th legislative day of the new Congress, likely sometime in February.” Therefore, it’s conceivable that when Obama takes office, he will look to overturn some of the last-minute rulemaking of the Bush Administration.
Poker News Daily learned last week that the regulations of the UIGEA were sent from the U.S. Treasury to the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) on October 21st. The Bush Administration had a target date of November 19th to pass the rules initially in order to have a 60 day review period expire before Obama took office.
We’ll have more for you on this breaking story right here on Poker News Daily.
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[Sammy439]

Guys not much is going to change on December 1st that hasnt already happened. They cant stop Western Union transfers to central/south america to a person. If it was to the book then it would be different.

As for getting paid, they cant stop all the different processors using banks located in other countries from writing checks to people getting paid. Its just impossible. They never put the name of the book on the check so the bank has no choice but to accept the check. The checks look like a million other checks they get from out of the US that are not gambling related.

 

[patswin]

can't help but think there will be ways to send/receive money, goods shops will find a way to get it done

 

[gtc08]

glad i got out years ago

 

[silver7]

It's depressing.

 

[tatehill2000]

glad i got out years ago

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
thats depressing!!! lolol

tater

 

[buddym]

glad i got out years ago

Wish i had, 35 years and going.<<

 

[DTP]

damn..

 

[BAGIANT]

I'd have thought by this time that we would've had a "new" NETteller. Guess that's never going to happen.