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I hit 2 games quickly with good numbers. We'll see what happens later on. Still looking through the lines. Maybe there will be some more.


Oregon St. +3.5/AZ The Beavers know what to expect on the road. The rest is.... we'll see what develops.

Stanford +9.5/Cal I was impressed with how the Card held USC for most of 3 quarters. I think they will stay with Cal and last it out. They were pretty banged up going into the game last week. Nothing new on the injury front so that's a good thing.
 

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UW IS -9.5/WSU and I have to give that one some thought. I've never bet an 0-10 team laying almost double digits!!!!

Think I'll wait for the total and bet that.
 

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UW IS -9.5/WSU and I have to give that one some thought. I've never bet an 0-10 team laying almost double digits!!!!

Think I'll wait for the total and bet that.

I'm not much for systems/trends but I'd be interested to see what kind of system Wash falls into being 0-10 and being chalk over a td
 

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Funny how the line fell by a point since I looked.

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How about a system where the home dog is getting more than a TD vs an 0-10 team? :think2:

Maybe that has something to do with the move. Not too sure if it's a good one in this case.

The UW/WSU game defies all known trends and angles.
 

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As I said last week, the Pac-crap has 10 million reasons to protect Oregon State and will continue to do so. Keep riding this team
 
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I think Washington might be a good bet this week.. At least they have a pulse, WSU is just as bad as it gets.
 

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As I said last week, the Pac-crap has 10 million reasons to protect Oregon State and will continue to do so. Keep riding this team

As far as "riding" them... I would be inclined to play on any team that's been on a tear like OSU has and is also getting points.

As far as the rest of your statement goes.... let me get this straight.

You said "continue" to do so, as in "they" protected Oregon St. in the Cal game and "they" will again protect them in the Zona game. It looked to me like Oregon St. just outhustled, outhit and outplayed Cal. You claim that "protection" had something to do with it?

Explain it. How? And above all WHO (specifically) are these "protecting" Pac-10 people that are doing all this protecting of which you speak?

Please clarify.
 

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As far as "riding" them... I would be inclined to play on any team that's been on a tear like OSU has and is also getting points.

As far as the rest of your statement goes.... let me get this straight.

You said "continue" to do so, as in "they" protected Oregon St. in the Cal game and "they" will again protect them in the Zona game. It looked to me like Oregon St. just outhustled, outhit and outplayed Cal. You claim that "protection" had something to do with it?

Explain it. How? And above all WHO (specifically) are these "protecting" Pac-10 people that are doing all this protecting of which you speak?

Please clarify.

Are you just playing dumb? Im not gonna waste time explaining something that has been going on in the Pac-10 for years now. You claim to know every nuance of the conference. Have you not been watching USC the last 5 yrs and seeing the opponent TDs called back, horrible calls, etc on their behalf. Trust me, OSU will not be the victims of any screw jobs in the next two weeks. Of course they played better than Cal, but it helps to know you have a "13th man" in your back pocket just in case.
 

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Are you just playing dumb? Im not gonna waste time explaining something that has been going on in the Pac-10 for years now. You claim to know every nuance of the conference. Have you not been watching USC the last 5 yrs and seeing the opponent TDs called back, horrible calls, etc on their behalf. Trust me, OSU will not be the victims of any screw jobs in the next two weeks. Of course they played better than Cal, but it helps to know you have a "13th man" in your back pocket just in case.


Not exactly playing dumb... but asking you who they are, especially now that OSU is getting preferential treatment and USC doesn't seem to be shielded as you have been claiming for so long. They may not get their Rose Bowl or Pac-10 crown in light of this new OSU conspiracy. Are you saying that the Pac-10 commissioners are having backroom meetings with officals? What specifically do you mean? You've never spelled it out.
 
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I think Washington might be a good bet this week.. At least they have a pulse, WSU is just as bad as it gets.

I think so too Gyno. I nearly bet it at 9.5 but when I saw it move I decided to hold off. I guess the idea of laying a TD with a winless team on the road is just too much for the sharps to wrap their minds around. Let them have their action and whoever else thinks the points are rich. I'll wait.
 

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Are you just playing dumb? Im not gonna waste time explaining something that has been going on in the Pac-10 for years now. You claim to know every nuance of the conference. Have you not been watching USC the last 5 yrs and seeing the opponent TDs called back, horrible calls, etc on their behalf. Trust me, OSU will not be the victims of any screw jobs in the next two weeks. Of course they played better than Cal, but it helps to know you have a "13th man" in your back pocket just in case.

I'm convinced now! :missingte
(that you're still a moron!)
 

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UW now down to -7.5.... getting closer. That's a 2 pt. move in less than 24 hrs.
Maybe it will keep going lower and lower and lower.

By the way, this may not qualify as a major breaking headline (outside of the Palouse,) but WSU's 4th string QB Lopina has been knocked out and they will likely play Levenseller, a true freshman making his first start ever.

Hard to believe that an 0-10 team is laying a TD+ on the road, but they look like a solid bet anyway. :think2:
...because of SUPERIOR personnel!! :103631605

I'd wait on the total here. It could be the best angle of all.
 

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I figure maybe it would be nice to put a tag on the Oregon St. game and explain how I think they will beat the Wildcats.

First of all, Oregon State's defense will be far superior to any that Zona has seen this year. People were making note of Cal's defense last week but look at how well Oregon St.'s defense shut down Cal. In the Cal game, OSU's OL eventually won out eventually wearing down Cal's LB's and DL's. Quizz and Quan took over in the 2nd half and I think a lot of it had to do with Cal's guys being winded and just plain getting beat.

Credit goes to Mark Banker, the Beaver DC who I hope sticks around for a few years. He's a miracle worker as evidenced by an entirely revamped group of DL's and LB's this year. OSU's defense was written off early this season because that (#1 in the nation vs the run last year) defense of theirs that gained so much notoriety last year graduated. All gone. However this season their new defense is #1 in the conference vs the pass (they are fast and nasty) and #2 behind USC in defensing the run. That is some remarkable work by Banker.

Second reason: OSU's rushing game. Relentless. Zona has had their problems with teams that run well. Of course most people know by now that Jacquizz Rogers leads the conference in rushing yards and it would take a natural disaster for him to lose the title over the last 2 games. He's had about 7 or 8 100 yard games this year and he'll probably get one more on Saturday. Oregon State rotates their OL's and they've gained a lot of depth over the year. Since Tavita Pritchard's return a couple weeks ago, they've become even more effective.

Still studying Zona's latest tendencies and trends so I'll probably be back with more from their side. It gets interesting when you start looking at individual matchups and coaching strengths. Sonny Dykes vs Mark Banker is an intriguing one. I give the edge to Banker because his schemes are far more effective than anything QB Tuitama has seen this year. Banker's mid-game adjustments have caught my attention a few times this past month.

Oregon's record vs Zona over the past several seasons has been very lopsided too. If you were to ask me which of the 2 teams this week have changed the most for the better, I'd have to give it to the Beavers because of their strong play in clutch situations. When the chips are down, they turn up the heat.

Footnote: Lyle Moevao seemed a bit rusty coming back from a minor shoulder injury but you can also credit his average numbers to the fact that he played with a cold during the game. I live in Oregon too and I bet he had the same cold I had a month ago. Nasty thing. I'm sure he's over it by now and he should be back in form for Saturday's matchup. Other than that, OSU's injuries are almost non-existent.
 

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conan,

I appreciate all of your analysis on the Oregon St. vs. Arizona game, but I'm on Arizona this week...will get back to you shortly with my thoughts on the game...
 

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conan,

I appreciate all of your analysis on the Oregon St. vs. Arizona game, but I'm on Arizona this week...will get back to you shortly with my thoughts on the game...

I'd like to hear some counter-points Pags. It will stretch my thinking. I have said for the last couple of weeks that this game would be the Beaver's toughest challenge. So sure, spell it out. In your opinion, why is that?
 
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I'm on Arizona this week as well.

For starters, it's unranked home team against ranked team. That's a red flag to me.

Second major point is Arizona plays much better at home. Much, much better.

Third...Arizona is good for a big win once a year, aren't they? Couldn't do it against USC, but I think it happens this weekend. Call it a trend, or superstition, or a gut feeling...whatever...

Fourth...imho Willie at home > Moaevo on the road.

GL with your play, but I'm very tempted to make AZ my biggest play of the weekend.
 

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