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So once you like someone and think they are a great qb...that has to be your opinion forever? I though barry bonds was great with and without steriods...I loved michael jordan until I heard his bitter talk in interviews and his horrible hall of fame speech. Kinda like when you call bill maher a liberal hack...then he attacked liberals and then you were citing his quotes. See how it works now?

It is no story. I really enjoy the personal attacks about hitting refresh...shows your true character.

Brady will always be a great qb but he deflated football and lied about it. Sorry this is hard for you and other pats fan to accept. However, don't worry, the commish will find a way to lay blame elsewhere and you can say "I told ya so"

You see, that's the problem with your narratives on just about every issue. You say things as if they are factual when they are not.

You don't know that Tom Brady deflated the football, just like you weren't there when Trayvon Martin was killed - but in both cases you had your mind made up from day one.
 

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You see, that's the problem with your narratives on just about every issue. You say things as if they are factual when they are not.

You don't know that Tom Brady deflated the football, just like you weren't there when Trayvon Martin was killed - but in both cases you had your mind made up from day one.

Uh...this is a forum with opinions and discussion. If it wasn't, you would just see cut n paste articles. Just nbecause I'm not there or didn't see it...doesn't mean it didn't happen. You keep bringing up trayvon martin...I only cited facts in the case, those facts brought me to a conclusion...and guess what...my conclusion was that zimmerman was a wannabe cop that is a horrible human being. Time has proven me right on that one.

I look at the facts and conclude the obvious. You look at them and don't accept what is clear because you don't wanna believe it. Brady has said he likes deflated footballs, the balls are discovered deflated...his press conf was an embarrassment filled with lies...my conclusion remains the same...
 

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You see, that's the problem with your narratives on just about every issue. You say things as if they are factual when they are not.

You don't know that Tom Brady deflated the football, just like you weren't there when Trayvon Martin was killed - but in both cases you had your mind made up from day one.

Uh...this is a forum with opinions and discussion. If it wasn't, you would just see cut n paste articles. Just nbecause I'm not there or didn't see it...doesn't mean it didn't happen. You keep bringing up trayvon martin...I only cited facts in the case, those facts brought me to a conclusion...and guess what...my conclusion was that zimmerman was a wannabe cop that is a horrible human being. Time has proven me right on that one.

I look at the facts and conclude the obvious. You look at them and don't accept what is clear because you don't wanna believe it. Brady has said he likes deflated footballs, the balls are discovered deflated...his press conf was an embarrassment filled with lies...my conclusion remains the same...
 

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this thread is a joke, right???? looking at the list and comparing it to 15 yrs of cheating by the Pats must be a joke. plus, willie and festering zit support it. that's the biggest joke of all.
 

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But yet, supposedly last week you were sucking Tom Brady's dick, and this week you can't stop hitting refresh on the threads in here so you can comment every 30 seconds on
how wicked, evil the Patriot cheaters are.

Your story doesn't add up.

I managed to take more than 30 seconds from here on Monday to meet with and donate my 2 super bowl tickets to make-a-wish foundation...the tickets are going to a family with a child who was endured cancer treatment for most of his life....he's a diehard patriot and gronk fan....so be careful about the hater stuff when it comes to everyone
 
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I managed to take more than 30 seconds from here on Monday to meet with and donate my 2 super bowl tickets to make-a-wish foundation...the tickets are going to a family with a child who was endured cancer treatment for most of his life....he's a diehard patriot and gronk fan....so be careful about the hater stuff when it comes to everyone

That's awesome dude, I'm proud of you. Thumbs up.
 
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This has a lot of merit.. I asked about 10 people yesterday about 'spygate'.. Not one was even in the ballpark of what happened or got why they were fined. Heard the craziest stuff from stealing playbooks, taping practices, cameras in locker rooms, etc. none of which is obviously true so calm down. I would venture to say most of these analysts who are ex players don't even have half a clue.

when I explained what it was most laughed and asked why is it even a big deal.

kinda like red eye, who didn't even respond when I helped him learn what aaron Rodgers said. Which was much different than red eyes understanding of the matter.

Taping practices did happen
 

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SEATTLE SEAHAWKS: The Seahawks lead the league in performance-enhancing drug use since Pete Carroll's arrival in 2010, and that doesn't even include the overturning of Richard Sherman's positive test before the first of three straight playoff appearances. Talk about deflated balls in the Super Bowl.

A) The Patriots currently have more players on their SB roster that have tested positive for PED use than Seattle.
B) With the exception of Bruce Irvin, not one Seattle player testing positive for PED use since 2010 saw anything close to significant playing time. Actually, next to no playing time.

Add context to your argument or it doesn't hold an ounce of weight.

 
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SEATTLE SEAHAWKS: The Seahawks lead the league in performance-enhancing drug use since Pete Carroll's arrival in 2010, and that doesn't even include the overturning of Richard Sherman's positive test before the first of three straight playoff appearances. Talk about deflated balls in the Super Bowl.

A) The Patriots currently have more players on their SB roster that have tested positive for PED use than Seattle.
B) With the exception of Bruce Irvin, not one Seattle player testing positive for PED use since 2010 saw anything close to significant playing time. Actually, next to no playing time.

Add context to your argument or it doesn't hold an ounce of weight.


Translation of your argument: It's ok to cheat, as long as you don't cheat as much as the others. And, if the other team cheats more than you do,
you should scream bloody murder, and get your panties in a wad.
 

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Translation of your argument: It's ok to cheat, as long as you don't cheat as much as the others. And, if the other team cheats more than you do,
you should scream bloody murder, and get your panties in a wad.

No intellectual one. The point is if players test positive for PED use but never saw the field, there was no advantage gained by them whatsoever. The point is if a person wants to say Seattle cheats because of PED use, it's important to point out, their opponent in the SB has more players on their current roster that have tested positive for PED use.

It's called context but you already know that because you're smarter than me.
 

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Think the pats should get an extra draft pick in the first round since the NFL sullied their name? I do. Fuckers
 

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+1

great gesture Vit.

Thanks. Been to a few super bowls and I know these tickets have been one of the toughest SB tix in a long time to get hands on. I have no rooting interest and have a chance to make an impact on someone who has suffered so much. His parents were in tears about it. Prob best thing I've ever had the chance to do.
 

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