Some info is provided in this thread, although nothing by Velton himself. See 2nd Post by Royal Sports.
http://therxforum.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=100090022&f=988094022&m=543106611
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http://therxforum.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=100090022&f=988094022&m=543106611
wil.
After this incident and the slow pay during the organizational changes how can people continue to play at Royal. I guess Royal did not techinically lie since they said they "paid" him and did pay him partially but the post sure was meant for the readers to believe that he was paid his enitre balance yesterday.
I REALLY need to check out Royal because they must have very soft lines.
I REALLY need to check out Royal because they must have very soft lines.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WildBill:
Do you guys really think at this point Royal wouldn't pay him??
I mean say what you want about Royal disputing his payout originally, but I have no doubt in my mind after Royal says we are going to pay you that they would do it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The question is did we think they would pay him in full after the stalling game was over
Do you guys really think at this point Royal wouldn't pay him??
I mean say what you want about Royal disputing his payout originally, but I have no doubt in my mind after Royal says we are going to pay you that they would do it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The question is did we think they would pay him in full after the stalling game was over
Hehe, Velton I think you are pissing off the naysayers with that
What book other than Panam can they come and complain about? I agree the stalling wasn't ideal, but lets face it there are TONS of scamsters out there. Royal probably took this delay a bit too far, but we have to allow books the chance to at any point do what they need to do to cleanse out the scammers because if they don't do it, all of their customers could be the ones that lose. This business just isn't profitable enough for books to overcome scams.
Velton did a nice job coming in here and posting his side of the story without getting overly pissy and threatening. A true scammer would have been that way from post one and then suddenly dissapeared never to be heard from again. Glad things worked out for you Velton and I think all of the posters that worked on the assumption that Royal is going the way of Panam take a step back. Realize that 98% of the books and people in this industry would never delay a payment for a cause like this unless they honestly felt something fishy was going on. I mean what does Royal get out of this all but grief and people saying they are taking all their money out? They certainly don't gain any goodwill from all this and they surely have bigger accounts than Velton around that they might have to pay out sometime soon.
Ok guys, go ahead flame away...
What book other than Panam can they come and complain about? I agree the stalling wasn't ideal, but lets face it there are TONS of scamsters out there. Royal probably took this delay a bit too far, but we have to allow books the chance to at any point do what they need to do to cleanse out the scammers because if they don't do it, all of their customers could be the ones that lose. This business just isn't profitable enough for books to overcome scams.
Velton did a nice job coming in here and posting his side of the story without getting overly pissy and threatening. A true scammer would have been that way from post one and then suddenly dissapeared never to be heard from again. Glad things worked out for you Velton and I think all of the posters that worked on the assumption that Royal is going the way of Panam take a step back. Realize that 98% of the books and people in this industry would never delay a payment for a cause like this unless they honestly felt something fishy was going on. I mean what does Royal get out of this all but grief and people saying they are taking all their money out? They certainly don't gain any goodwill from all this and they surely have bigger accounts than Velton around that they might have to pay out sometime soon.
Ok guys, go ahead flame away...
why is it when you win you have to wait? when you lose, the money is out of your account immediately? if they really thought he was a scammer, they would have FROZEN the acct...not let him keep betting 3k plus a game.
wildbill, with all due respect, your support of royal is sickening...and the fact of the matter is it is going to be thursday, and velton STILL has not gotten his money.
wildbill, with all due respect, your support of royal is sickening...and the fact of the matter is it is going to be thursday, and velton STILL has not gotten his money.
ID,
Go down to WU and ask them how much money you can get in a day. Ask Neteller how much you can get in a day. Unless Velton wants a bank wire and the accompanying CTR (if he is in the US), then he can't get the money in one day. I support Royal and all books in their attempts to prevent fraud, but I don't have a special affinity for them. I have never kept an account there. All I know is they have been fairly good citizens and it is an issue that could happen to just about any book. I did say they might have taken the delay too far, but I had no doubt in my mind from what type of business they take on that a five figure payout wasn't going to be a problem once they said they would pay it out.
You might think fraud protections are just a sham to not pay people, but they are not. If some scamster is trying to get a dime out of Royal that would be one thing, but $28k is different story. There isn't a book out there that won't do some background work on an amount like that to make sure it is legit. If Royal starts saying we don't care about fraud in 5 figure amounts, that is when I would start to get worried.
Go down to WU and ask them how much money you can get in a day. Ask Neteller how much you can get in a day. Unless Velton wants a bank wire and the accompanying CTR (if he is in the US), then he can't get the money in one day. I support Royal and all books in their attempts to prevent fraud, but I don't have a special affinity for them. I have never kept an account there. All I know is they have been fairly good citizens and it is an issue that could happen to just about any book. I did say they might have taken the delay too far, but I had no doubt in my mind from what type of business they take on that a five figure payout wasn't going to be a problem once they said they would pay it out.
You might think fraud protections are just a sham to not pay people, but they are not. If some scamster is trying to get a dime out of Royal that would be one thing, but $28k is different story. There isn't a book out there that won't do some background work on an amount like that to make sure it is legit. If Royal starts saying we don't care about fraud in 5 figure amounts, that is when I would start to get worried.
