Week 12 Public Record So Far + GB/NO Monday Night Stats

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Dreamin' Big
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Public is 9-4-2 (that 2 = the Wash/Sea game being a push and from where I received my info, the public was split exactly 50/50 on Min/Jax) so far against the spread this week.

Green Bay is 2-3 on the road but has outscored opponents 139-119 (+20) in 5 games, that averages out to 28-24 (+4 ppg). However, take away their 48-25 win at Detroit and the averages change to 23-24 (-1 ppg). A noticeable 5 point difference.

New Orleans is 3-1 in 4 home games (not counting the game in England although they did defeat San Diego 37-32) and have outscored their opponents 116-70 (+46), which averages out to 27-22 (+5 ppg). If we take out their 34-3 win over Oakland, those averages convert to 26-25 (+1 ppg). A noticeable 4 point difference.

Currently the public is on the Packers, heavy. At Sports.com, 78% have them ATS, 94% have them straight up, and 58% have the over 51.5 (dropped from 53).

The whole world seems to be on the Packers. I don't know if I like them because I feel they will win or because everyone else is saying they're going to win. Recently, however, I've learned to take emotion COMPLETELY out of my decision making process.

With all this being said... there is no advantage in my opinion. The public and the media love the Packers, but that's because of what they did to the Bears last week. Just days before that game, not many people thought this much of the Packers. After beating a demoralized Bears squad in Week 11, they're all of a sudden a contender. I just don't see it. Green Bay's lone 2 wins on the road were at Detroit (the $1 hooker of the NFL this season) and at Seattle (w/o Matt Hasselbeck).

But then again, who are the real New Orleans Saints? Two of their 3 wins at home were against Oakland and San Francisco (the other vs. TB, 24-20). And what is their motivation to win exactly? If they win, they'd be 6-5 and 4th in their division. And...
- At 6-5 they'd be tied with Minnesota and Chicago (one of them would take the NFC North).
- At 6-5, all 3 teams would be 1 game behind Atlanta, Dallas, and Washington, whom all are 7-4 and tied for the second wild card spot.
- Carolina or Tampa Bay (both at 8-3) have that first wild card spot, with the other team taking the NFC South.
... so there isn't a whole lot there to make them want to win this game. It's hard to imagine them outlasting 5 teams to just barely get into the playoffs.

But Green Bay, on the other hand, has a lot to gain from winning this game and even more so to lose if they were to come up short. If they win, they keep pace with Minny and Chicago and it remains a three-way tie. If they lose, they drop 1 game back of each with 5 to go and they can kiss their wild card hopes goodbye.

So I guess after all this, we find an angle.... Green Bay has more motivation to win lol. Take that for what it's worth.
 

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Hows the public done this year Ramonskee? Id have to say pretty well.
 

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So to sum it all up, with a Saints win, here is how the NFC looks...
1) Giants 10-1 : NFC East Leaders
2) Buccaneers 8-3 : NFC South Leaders (tiebreaker: beat Carolina in 1 meeting so far)
3) Cardinals 7-4 : NFC West Leaders
4) Bears 6-5 : NFC North Leaders (tiebreaker: beat Minnesota in 1 meeting so far)
5) Panthers 8-3 : Wild Card # 1
6) Redskins/Cowboys/Falcons 7-4 : Wild Card # 2 (not using tiebreaker for wild card just yet)
9) Vikings/Saints 6-5 : (not using tiebreaker for wild card just yet)
11) Packers 5-6


With a Packers win, here is the NFC..
1) Giants 10-1 : NFC East Leaders
2) Buccaneers 8-3 : NFC South Leaders (tiebreaker: beat Carolina in 1 meeting so far)
3) Cardinals 7-4 : NFC West Leaders
4) Packers 6-5 : NFC North Leaders (tiebreakers: 1-0 vs. Bears so far, 1-1 vs. Vikings but better division record)
5) Panthers 8-3 : Wild Card # 1
6) Redskins/Cowboys/Falcons 7-4 : Wild Card # 2 (not using tiebreaker for wild card just yet)
9) Vikings/Bears 6-5
11) Saints 5-6


This makes it obvious how much more this game means to the Packers than it does so to the Saints.
 

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Hows the public done this year Ramonskee? Id have to say pretty well.

According to Ace-Ace, public was 43-39 ATS coming into Week 12, 47-48 in totals. So if you want to combine my info from week 12 and AA's info from every other week, public is 52-43 ATS so far.
 
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Saints=Broncos=Chargers=Colts


all 4 complete overrated garbage. Packers need to keep pace with Bears and Vikings.
 

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PACK will win tonight guys. Public has gotten killed on monday night most of the year but they get it right tonight! to the bank! :toast:
 

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The books probly love a good, winning public week right before a set of Turkey-Day / Long weekend games. The public will dump it right back this upcoming week. So fuck it, stick with the public take the Pack tonight.
 

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you guys worry way too much about trap games and public betting. does should not be the reason you bet on games, just additional information you need to factor in. my favorite picks yesterday was ne,nyg,nyj, colts, and bal... alot of public teams. why in the world people would bet on arizona+3 vs nyg blows my mind. honestly san fran gave arizona all they could handle on their home field...what in the world did people think they would do vs the giants lol...but back to tonights game if bush isnt playign i dont see how you dont take the packers. saints offense is amazing and the green bay offense is decent but starting to get the running game together just like last year at this time. the saints defense is garbage ryan grant should be able to run for over 100 and arron rodgers has like a 120 passer rating off play action. the packers lead the nfl in picks(16 so far) and i understand dree brews is one of the elite qbs but the packers should win the turnover battle and therefore the game...just my opinion but id go with the packers or lay off...
 

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you guys worry way too much about trap games and public betting. does should not be the reason you bet on games, just additional information you need to factor in. my favorite picks yesterday was ne,nyg,nyj, colts, and bal... alot of public teams. why in the world people would bet on arizona+3 vs nyg blows my mind. honestly san fran gave arizona all they could handle on their home field...what in the world did people think they would do vs the giants lol...but back to tonights game if bush isnt playign i dont see how you dont take the packers. saints offense is amazing and the green bay offense is decent but starting to get the running game together just like last year at this time. the saints defense is garbage ryan grant should be able to run for over 100 and arron rodgers has like a 120 passer rating off play action. the packers lead the nfl in picks(16 so far) and i understand dree brews is one of the elite qbs but the packers should win the turnover battle and therefore the game...just my opinion but id go with the packers or lay off...


Agree, NO defense is SHIT!
 

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