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2008: 36-23-2 +29.2 units 61 %

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** Virginia Tech Hokies O9 (+115)
*Florida State O7 (-145)
** North Carolina State O7.5 (Ev)
*Clemson Tigers U8.5 (-135)

Aaannd we're back! Ready to get on another season in he ACC this year in what should be a very balanced and competitive conference. I usually do my best in conference season as I like to see the teams play a few times and get a feel for match-ups and situations. However the OOC games offer us a good chance to see the relative strengths of the conferences and give us a chance to exploit matchups compared to our expectations for the teams that we follow.

I will have a few plays for this first week but at the moment I am only locked into 1 play.

*** Virginia Tech Hokies +7

The National spotlight game of the week presents two top 10 teams together in a neutral-site matchup in Atlanta. Both teams have sky-high hopes for this year, and this game will go a ways toward determining their respective fates.

The first thing that to me jumps out is the relative similarity between each team. Both are very well-coached squads who will try to win with defense and game management. There are serious ?'s at QB and HB but plenty of talent all over the field. I expect that the crowd will be fairly split for this game in Georgia as both teams travel extremely well and each fanbase has national title aspirations.

To me the big issue with asking Bama to cover this line is I am having a tough time seeing where their points are coming from. They are replacing 2 AA's on the O-line, their starting HB and their all-time leader in offense. They have a Jr QB in McElroy, who has been average in fall practice and has yet to start a game, and they have still yet to shore up their HB rotation. Jones @ WR is a game-breaker but this was a run-first team last season (568 carries @ 4.6 ypc last year) that is going to be tested by the Hokie D.

The Hokies are returning 7 starters on D (including 3 in the secondary) and Bud Carson is known to put alot of pressure on opposing offenses (especially when the QB is probably already feeling alot of pressure). The Hokies will be going after a rookie LT in Love that will be seeing alot of pressure from a shifting DL and linebackers Grimm and Rivers love to pressure the backfield.

I see the Tide being aware of the packages that VT can throw at them and trying to keep the game plan simple. I think this is a ball control type of game and I would be hard-pressed to expect a 2 score victory when both offenses appear equally capable.

Defensively the Tide are very experienced, and especially up front the match-up favors them. The Hokies do return 90 career starts on the O-line so they should be as capable as anyone will be this year of controlling the trenches, and though their running game is very unproven with Evans going out I expect the gameplan to be very simple to allow QB Taylor as much comfort as possible.

Bottom line, IMO, is that with a total of 38 I need to see a definite reason to lay a touchdown in a neutral site with a team that went 65% ATS last year. Their offense is very unproven and they will be going at a Hokie defense that was very young last year and should be much improved, especially on the front 7. I think Bama is overvalued right now and to me this is much closer to a coin-flip than a 2 score game.

Also looking at: Baylor, Maryland, NCS, MTSU
 

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Have to agree with you here, why not take the points in what looks to be a low scoring game. Historically, the odds are in your favor here. Whoever makes the least amount of mistakes will win this game and I like the fact VT has a QB that is experienced and can scramble on 3rd down to keep drives moving. Not to mention more experience on the O-line.
 

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Jimmy...I agree with you on VT...I'm still contemplating this game. But have a definite lean to VT. I think part of the reason why this line has gone up to 7 is the fact that Bama stomped another ACC school last year in this game. So good value here on VT imo.
 

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Jimmy...I agree with you on VT...I'm still contemplating this game. But have a definite lean to VT. I think part of the reason why this line has gone up to 7 is the fact that Bama stomped another ACC school last year in this game. So good value here on VT imo.


Completely agree....last year's dismantling of Clemson has definitely played a factor in this line being 7....I think it would be 3 had there been no Clemson game last year...
 

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Completely agree....last year's dismantling of Clemson has definitely played a factor in this line being 7....I think it would be 3 had there been no Clemson game last year...


Yeah I agree I think these are two similar squads and this year the coaching balance is much closer. I think gameplanning can be a bigger impact in a situation like this because you have so much extra time to prepare. We saw the discrepancy last season as the Bowden/Spence combo was out-maneuvered all over the field. Beamer is much closer to Saban's level and I expect the final score to reflect that.
 

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The Clemson game of last year has nothing to do with it. No one thinks that Va. Tech can score, and I really can not find fault with that thinking. I think the game really rests with RB Mark Ingram with Alabama, and whoever takes over for Darren Evans at Va. Tech. If neither team can establish a running game, this is going tobe a very low scoring game. Va. Tech has the advantage at QB, becuase Taylor is fast, but he is also inacurate when he throws the ball, and has bad ankles.

Alabama has the edge on defense. They have better players, and play in a much better conference. Va,Tech has always been a very good in the Special Teams department, but not so against Alabama, who has the better kickers, and a better return specialist. JavierArenas returned 3 punts for Alabama TD's last year, which happensw to be the number of returns for TD's that Va. Tech gave up last year.

There is plenty of reason to back the Tide. I do not know if 7 is too much or not, but this game is not worth a wager to find out.
I admit that leaning towards VT and betting that way are two different things. But line value is definitely one of the things to look at here. And if you think that the game last season with Bama/Clemson and the way Bama crsuhed that team isn't burned in people's brains and doesn't have anything whatsoever to do with this line you're delusional.

Something that everyone seems to be focusing on is VT's anticipated inability to score here. But nobody is talking about Bama's ability to score. Bama lost 3 starters off of their O-Line, including two studs who were first day NFL draft choices. And their starting QB. Bama had problems last year when they just lost their offensive tackle. Now they're 3 short of a full house. Even though i think McElroy will be a decent QB who is smart enough to manage the game and not make mistakes, I don't think he's going to be a playmaker/difference maker either. There is no way i see this Bama offense being as good as last season. In turn this is going to put a lot of pressure on their defense, which although one of the most dominant in the country, will be spending more time on the field this season.

As for special teams unit, I don't expect VT to be down like they were two years in a row. Beamer WILL straighten that out. Both of these teams formula for success is no secret. They will both try to establish the run, play good defense and special teams, and not turn the ball over. The bottom line for this game is you have two teams that are probably both going to have problems scoring. And your looking at a Bama team who now has to win this game by more than a TD in a game that judging by it's 38 total is anticipated to be very low scoring. And in a low scoring game I either like getting the points or pass.
 

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I normally don't play totals but the VTech/Bama game seems like a great under
 
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I see this being an easy cover for the TIDE. Toooo much experience on D. Va tech, will be lucky to get in FG range .

No HB for Va Tech and as for the Tech QB. Too many mistakes...

I see this being 20-6

BAMA ROLLS !
 

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jimmy,

great analysis on the Va. Tech game...it's Bud Foster, not Bud Carson though...you are still the man in my book though...
 

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jimmy,

great analysis on the Va. Tech game...it's Bud Foster, not Bud Carson though...you are still the man in my book though...



Good call pags, I would have to like the Hokies even more if they had the ability to re-animate one of the greatest defensive coaches in NFL history. Can't wait to get this season started bro
 

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I'm on the under in this one. Losing the star TB for VT is a huge blow (as he was really the only consistant bright spot for that offense last year). I'd actually lean towards Bama to cover, but staying off due to the new QB and OL situation. The Bama D should shut down Va Tech. Special Teams and turnovers could/will play a big part in this game. I'm looking forward to watching it....
 

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I'm on the under in this one. Losing the star TB for VT is a huge blow (as he was really the only consistant bright spot for that offense last year). I'd actually lean towards Bama to cover, but staying off due to the new QB and OL situation. The Bama D should shut down Va Tech. Special Teams and turnovers could/will play a big part in this game. I'm looking forward to watching it....
I would also prefer to play the under, although VT at +7 is very tempting. The only thing that would worry me about the under is like you said the Special Teams, which in this game should be pretty special. And a couple pick sixes by the stout Bama defense vs a subpar to this point passer could ruin your day. There ain't much room for error with the total at 38.
 

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I agree with GoSooners that 38 o/u is just too tough a line to bet against in a game like this. As jimmy says, we have two teams that stack up as very similar on paper, and that is usually a formula that equals game-changing turnovers and/or plays on special teams.

In terms of the line, I try to stay away from running QBs like Taylor as I've been burned by them in the past - both for and against. Tyrod is 13-2 as a starter, right?

(On a similar note - Robert Griffin of Baylor - he might be the only player the Bears have got but there is a good chance he might be all they need... last year he was a bit of an unknown quantity, but everyone sees him coming this year.)

But I like it that you got a touchdown. Good ju-ju there.

BOL
 

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I'm on the under in this one. Losing the star TB for VT is a huge blow (as he was really the only consistant bright spot for that offense last year). I'd actually lean towards Bama to cover, but staying off due to the new QB and OL situation. The Bama D should shut down Va Tech. Special Teams and turnovers could/will play a big part in this game. I'm looking forward to watching it....


I think the under is a really tough play here because when you have two teams with strong defenses and iffy offenses it can cause alot of turnovers and short-fields. Like GoSooners said, 38 does not give us much margin for error. GL with that total but I'll take my chances with the side and look for better numbers elsewhere...
 

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I agree with GoSooners that 38 o/u is just too tough a line to bet against in a game like this. As jimmy says, we have two teams that stack up as very similar on paper, and that is usually a formula that equals game-changing turnovers and/or plays on special teams.

In terms of the line, I try to stay away from running QBs like Taylor as I've been burned by them in the past - both for and against. Tyrod is 13-2 as a starter, right?

(On a similar note - Robert Griffin of Baylor - he might be the only player the Bears have got but there is a good chance he might be all they need... last year he was a bit of an unknown quantity, but everyone sees him coming this year.)

But I like it that you got a touchdown. Good ju-ju there.

BOL

I like Griffin a alot and I think he is enough to give what will be IMO a down Deacon squad nightmares all day. Baylor has a great shot to win this game IMO (still have a lot of research to do here but initial lean is to the Bears getting the points)
 

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Nice write ups as always JS.

Like the NC ST season over total and like 'em Thursday.

Would like to see the Hokie take it to the Tide but the QB situation is shaky. I am leaning to the obvious under there.

GL
 

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** Middle Tennessee Blue Raiders +19.5

I'm going to fade a Clemson team here that a lot of people are high on this season for a couple of reasons. I like that MT brings back 10 starters on offense and the new quarterback they are bringing in already has 7 career starts and a career 11-5 TD-INT ration. Last year this offense (decent passing numbers but an overall balanced offense) put up 24, 14, 23 and 22 points against 4 BCS teams. I also like the competitive nature of this Blue Raider squad; they covered this number in every single game last season. Obviously Clemson has more talent than MT but Stockstill has this team on an upswing and I think they will be fired up for this game. They have 99 career starts on the O-line so they should be ready to go from the opening snap against the strong Clemson D-line. Last year in a similar spot they beat Maryland on the road so I think this team has the confidence that they can hang with a Clemson team that perenially underachieves.

Another big sticking point for me is the situation in Death Valley. Clemson has named Kyle Parker the starting QB for the season but they will rotate the qb's some to get both guys reps. Often unless you are playing a complete creampuff the lack of rythym for the qb's can hamper the ability to string together scoring drives. With what I expect to be a competent MT offense Clemson is going to have to break 40 points to cover this number and IMO they are a lot less dynamic and will probably be more one-dimensional early in the season.

I like the Clemson O-line and Spiller but IMO they aren't prepared to cover this kind of number with QB and WR issues. Not to mention the fact that they go to Atlanta to face GT 5 days after this game so if they get up they will likely go into cruise control mode late to avoid injuries. The backdoor should be wide open in this one. but I don't think we need it. Tigers by 15..

Looking hard @ NCS and Baylor but would like to see better numbers before locking in.
 

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Like the Clemson fade, Jimmy. Seems like the Tigers have been overrated almost every season since they were national champions back in 81.

The Baylor/Wake line is up to 2. Might make 3 by Saturday if the mojo is with you...
 

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