No way would I touch this one. How can they be legal being based in Vegas? If they're trying to claim it's a private club and legal, unless you know for a fact it is I wouldn't do business with them, being located in the U.S. and taking wagers over phones. Just asking for an Uncle Sammy visit if they are ... and oh yeah, I don't want to be the guinea pig in a novel court case either ...
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Registrant:
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Wagerfree.com LLC
7120 Park Valley Court
Reno, NV 89523
US
Domain Name: WAGERFREE.COM
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Barozzi, Anthony (KZTZKZPPZI) wagerfree@sbcglobal.net
Wagerfree.com LLC
7120 Park Valley Court
Reno, NV 89523
US
8004965976
Technical Contact:
Network Solutions, Inc. (HOST-ORG) customerservice@networksolutions.com
13200 Woodland Park Drive
Herndon, VA 20171-3025
US
1-888-642-9675 fax: 571-434-4620
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Does anyone have any ties or friendship with these people. If so, could you contact me via email. GeneralPete@hotmail.com
I have often thought about this business model, it is a fascinating concept....
anybody sign up to see what the interface is like?
Also how do they guarantee any 'matches' less than 5K...seems weird....are they gonna book the bets at that point...
Finally I beleive the Monthly Service Fee would have to be higher than 10$ for the plan to work out...would love to find out more about these guys...
anybody sign up to see what the interface is like?
Also how do they guarantee any 'matches' less than 5K...seems weird....are they gonna book the bets at that point...
Finally I beleive the Monthly Service Fee would have to be higher than 10$ for the plan to work out...would love to find out more about these guys...
The payout was requested for $13,850 not 30K (My mistake)on March 23rd, but no reason has been given other than...
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>PETE,
hello. this is the 2nd web site that **** has tried to have mediate this issue. i issued a statement before. herb broke the rules of our private club. wagerfree is not a sportsbook but a private club. **** has broken the rules of the club and his membership was cancelled and all monies forfited. we have many satisfied memebers who follow the rules and enjoy our services. wagerfree has never had a compaint of a member not getting paid on time and in full. wagerfree does not take any wagers itself.(our profit is made by our monthly fee) we are a club where members wagers are matched between themselves allowing there to be no "juice" on any wager. our decition with **** is final. we are not influenced by media good or bad since we a private club and accept or decline any membership we wish. this will be my final statement with your company in this matter.
Garet
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I just wonder what rules were broken.
[This message was edited by The General on April 27, 2004 at 12:19 PM.]
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>PETE,
hello. this is the 2nd web site that **** has tried to have mediate this issue. i issued a statement before. herb broke the rules of our private club. wagerfree is not a sportsbook but a private club. **** has broken the rules of the club and his membership was cancelled and all monies forfited. we have many satisfied memebers who follow the rules and enjoy our services. wagerfree has never had a compaint of a member not getting paid on time and in full. wagerfree does not take any wagers itself.(our profit is made by our monthly fee) we are a club where members wagers are matched between themselves allowing there to be no "juice" on any wager. our decition with **** is final. we are not influenced by media good or bad since we a private club and accept or decline any membership we wish. this will be my final statement with your company in this matter.
Garet
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I just wonder what rules were broken.
[This message was edited by The General on April 27, 2004 at 12:19 PM.]
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The General:
The payout was requested for $13,850 not 30K (My mistake)on March 23rd, but no reason has been given other than...
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>PETE,
hello. this is the 2nd web site that **** has tried to have mediate this issue. i issued a statement before. herb broke the rules of our private club. wagerfree is not a sportsbook but a private club. **** has broken the rules of the club and his membership was cancelled and all monies forfited. we have many satisfied memebers who follow the rules and enjoy our services. wagerfree has never had a compaint of a member not getting paid on time and in full. wagerfree does not take any wagers itself.(our profit is made by our monthly fee) we are a club where members wagers are matched between themselves allowing there to be no "juice" on any wager. our decition with **** is final. we are not influenced by media good or bad since we a private club and accept or decline any membership we wish. this will be my final statement with your company in this matter.
Garet
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I just wonder what rules were broken.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
My guess General ... the rule he broke was the unwritten rule of trying to withdraw an amount of money large enough to put a major dent in the profits of their Ponzi scheme.
[This message was edited by The General on April 27, 2004 at 12:19 PM.]
The payout was requested for $13,850 not 30K (My mistake)on March 23rd, but no reason has been given other than...
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>PETE,
hello. this is the 2nd web site that **** has tried to have mediate this issue. i issued a statement before. herb broke the rules of our private club. wagerfree is not a sportsbook but a private club. **** has broken the rules of the club and his membership was cancelled and all monies forfited. we have many satisfied memebers who follow the rules and enjoy our services. wagerfree has never had a compaint of a member not getting paid on time and in full. wagerfree does not take any wagers itself.(our profit is made by our monthly fee) we are a club where members wagers are matched between themselves allowing there to be no "juice" on any wager. our decition with **** is final. we are not influenced by media good or bad since we a private club and accept or decline any membership we wish. this will be my final statement with your company in this matter.
Garet
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I just wonder what rules were broken.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
My guess General ... the rule he broke was the unwritten rule of trying to withdraw an amount of money large enough to put a major dent in the profits of their Ponzi scheme.
[This message was edited by The General on April 27, 2004 at 12:19 PM.]
Wow, with that reply it makes you wonder if Garet was with SIA mgmt. prior to starting his "club". I guess Garet makes ALL the decisions, and who is to say anyone will get paid if he doesnt want to pay you?
A pretty steep penalty for "****".
[This message was edited by The General on April 27, 2004 at 12:19 PM.]
A pretty steep penalty for "****".
[This message was edited by The General on April 27, 2004 at 12:19 PM.]
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The General:
Does anyone have any ties or friendship with these people. If so, could you contact me via email. GeneralPete@hotmail.com<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Does anyone have any ties or friendship with these people. If so, could you contact me via email. GeneralPete@hotmail.com<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Wagerfree has yet to give a viable reason for their No pay and have threatened to sieze the players postup funds as well if he comments on this matter here or on MW. I think this is sick and hopefully someone will read that can get to these people and show them how to do business.
