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PHILADELPHIA -- All-Star closer Billy Wagner was traded Monday from the Houston Astros to the Philadelphia Phillies.

Philadelphia sent Houston right-hander Brandon Duckworth, and minor league right-handers Taylor Buchholz and Ezequiel Astacio.

Wagner, a three-time All-Star, goes from one of baseball's best bullpens to among its worst.

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The Billy Wagner trade is also good news for fantasy owners, who will get another closer to pick in 2004 drafts. However, don't assume that setup man Octavio Dotel will automatically assume the closer's role. Dotel was Houston's closer in 2000 when Wagner was injured, and he blew nearly a third of his chances and had an ERA over 4 as a reliever. Brad Lidge, meanwhile, has also been groomed to close games. Until hitting a second-half wall this season, Lidge (above) was nearly as dominant as Dotel - and Wagner. Figure on this being a key position battle, not automatically Dotel's job to lose. As for Wagner, his value doesn't change; he goes from one potential playoff team to another, though Philly must get him setup men - like he had in Houston.
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"He's one of the most dominant closers in baseball," Phillies manager Larry Bowa said. "He's right up there with Eric Gagne and John Smoltz in that when he comes into the game, it's over."

Wagner was 1-4 with a 1.78 ERA last season and had 44 saves in 47 chances, making a career-high 78 appearances. Philadelphia's bullpen converted just 33 saves in 51 opportunities as Jose Mesa and Mike Williams both faltered.

With eight games left, Philadelphia was a half-game ahead of Florida, which went on to win the wild card and the World Series.

"When we met with our pro scouts and staff in Clearwater three weeks ago, we prioritized our needs and decided that the closer should be at the top of the list," Phillies general manager Ed Wade said. "We then went through the list of available closers and ranked them. Billy Wagner was at the top of our list. Billy represents a huge improvement for the 2004 Phillies."

Wagner, 32, is due to make $8 million next season, the third in a $27 million, three-year contract he agreed to in January 2002. The deal contains a $9 million team option for 2005 with a $3 million buyout.

He had criticized Astros owner Drayton McLane for not making a move to get another quality starting pitcher for the 2003 season and expected more of the same for next season.

"It's going to be a tape job," Wagner said after the season finale. "It's not like we're going out there and getting any marquee pitchers."

McLane has said the Astros were losing money this season.

"This is somewhat of a sad experience," he said. "He's one of our own and has developed into one of the premier players in baseball. But you move forward, and you have to constantly renew the team, and this is a step forward. We hate very much to make this decision, but it certainly helps us in giving us flexibility."

Octavio Dotel is likely to assume the closer's job, with Brad Lidge in line to replace Dotel as the setup man. Dotel was acquired in another salary-motivated deal that sent pitcher Mike Hampton to the Mets after the 1999 season.

Dotel was 6-4 with a 2.48 ERA and four saves last season, and has 28 career saves.

"He's got the makeup to be the closer," Astros general manager Gerry Hunsicker said. "He's got the physical talent to be the closer and that's something we'll have to decide in spring training."

Duckworth, 27, was 4-7 with a 4.94 ERA in 18 starts and six relief appearances. Buchholz, 22, went 9-11 with a 3.55 ERA in 25 games (24 starts) for Double-A Reading of the Eastern League.

Astacio, who turns 24 Tuesday, was 15-5 with a 3.29 ERA at Class-A Clearwater of the Florida State League.
 

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You think? A bum for one of the best and feared closers in the game.
 

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Oh yeah! Don't know anything about the monor league pitchers though!
 

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A steal. Absolute salary dumping, where were the Yankees to pick up Billy's fat tab.
 

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i dont think they really cared about gettin Duckworth...it was more of a salary dump.They could afford to lose Wagner, as Dotel can easily move into the closer's role.Brad Lidge would then be the primary set up guy for Dotel. For a team lookin to trim payroll, Houston made a pretty good move considering they have reliabe 'fill ins'. Kind of a similar situation w/ Mariano Rivera & John Wetteland in '96.

Wagner is due to get $8 mill this year, and a $9 mill option in 2005...thats a LOT of $$ to be payin a closer.

So its a pretty good move for both teams...
 

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I always forget sports are about money now, and then secondary is a winning team. Its a shame, must be difficult for kids to have any loyalty to a team.

Hell, I know I have no loyalties except on the team I bet tonight!
 

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I have said it before and I am sure say it again, if there were no sportsbooks I would not even follow sports.
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Its all about money, so thats all it is for me, a way to make money!
 

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Dotel is just as capable as Billy. I think what got him expendable is the statements he made about the owner and Jerry Hinsicker. I live in Houston and feel that Dotel has the same talent as Billy and will do fine....plus $9 mil a year is way too much for a closer.
 

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As a Phils fan watching Mesa the last few years....9 million is not all that much
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Great move for the Phils, but they still need to get Millwood motivated or moved(he faded late), Wolf & Padilla need more consistency, and they need a Petitte or Leiter(dominant lefty or ace).

Drew is mentally fragile at the plate last year, Abreu is on a small decline(waistline??), and they need some better bench talent.

The Phils are still 3 very good everyday guys, plus 2 starters, and a middle-relief ace away from elite status.

Despite leading the WC all season before the obvious forthcoming fold that came, they were fragile all along, and though having heart, were such an incomplete team that they lacked spurt-ability(incapable of sustained long win streaks..despite having two such last year)..the exact ingredient that the Champ Marlins had after their rocky start thru the first 20 games.

Thome is all aloneeee as a supreme superstar on a rather yeoman team..nation's 5th largest market still hostage to Giles-like ownership(Lurie should buy 'em!).
 

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