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http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...y/news-story/f01dca18ef0b8d3e5cd6d1173ffbffa1[h=1]Vegas is trying to cheat you out of even more money[/h]August 13, 201610:44pm


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We’re prepared to lose money when we head to Las Vegas — but the City of Sin is ripping us off more than we think. Picture: iStock


Michael KaplanNY Post




CASINOS exist to take your money at the gaming tables. Everyone knows that.

But they’ve long been pretty sporty when it comes to giving back in terms of free rooms, cheap food, gratis booze — even comped airfare if you’re willing to shell out enough while playing craps or roulette.
But on a recent trip to Las Vegas, I couldn’t help but get the impression that Vegas is tightening its belt to a suffocating degree.
The town expects you to risk cash against insurmountable odds, all while it is becoming sadly chintzy in how much it puts out for its suckerish losers.
I realise that the days of 99-cent shrimp cocktails are gone, replaced by a blur of celebrity chefs and imported mixologists.
But are casinos so desperate that they have to charge for parking? I thought that being a good mousetrap involved luring in the mice.
Vegas gambling dens owned by MGM Resorts International (including high-end spots such as the Bellagio and Aria) now tariff as much as $US10 ($AU13) a day to park your car. It doesn’t sound like a lot — but until recently, it was free.
Hopefully other casinos around town — where no-charge valet parking remains in effect — are enjoying a bump from gamblers who realise that steakhouses and slot machines are not all that different from one place to another.
The other giant rip-off for most everyone overnighting in Vegas casinos is the repellent resort fees that Strip properties charge.
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The poker machines aren’t the only place we’re losing money.Source:istock



Check in to a place designed to take your money at the tables and you’re an instant loser when socked with mark-ups of $US29 to $US32 ($AU38 to $AU42) per night. The fees cover entry to the gym, Wi-Fi, local phone calls, maybe a bottle of water in your room — whether you care to use the amenities or not.
The Delano’s fee even includes free notary service. Just one problem: Who the hell goes to Las Vegas on vacation and needs a notary?
These fees might be tolerable if I didn’t feel like I was getting hosed on the casino floor as well.
Increasingly, the rules of blackjack games — a gambit where skill can actually trump the house (until they boot you out for being smart enough to win) — have become a drag on player bankrolls.
Let’s get technical for a second: We’re seeing blackjacks that pay 6-to-5 instead of 3-to-2, there’s no re-splitting aces, and you can’t double down on anything other than a 10 or 11.
They all crush the dreams of players who don’t want to get brutally fleeced.
But at least casinos are generous with cocktails, right? Oceans of free booze long stood as a win-win for players and casinos: You get drunk for free, and the house has a better chance of capitalising on your impaired judgment.
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Las Vegas casinos: the crushers of dreams. Picture: iStockSource:istock



But even that seems to be going the way of those bargain-basement crustaceans. According to Vegas’ ABC affiliate, bartenders at MGM properties began short-changing guests on the hooch-to-mixer ratio by “decreasing shot pours.”
Now they’re making it so that the bar-top slot and video poker machines decide when you’ve gambled enough to warrant a free drink by spitting out cocktail vouchers.
The old, pre-Pavlovian system would have tip-hungry bartenders pouring refills whenever you seemed to be running low.
Hopefully Vegas’ next corner-cutting strategies will not be copycats of the country’s less glamorous casino destinations.
One joint in Pennsylvania tried to get out of paying a customer who won $US102,000 ($AU133,000) on a slot-machine jackpot. Management claimed a computer malfunction and coughed up cash only after public opinion proved too damning.
During a recent visit to Atlantic City’s Borgata, far and away the only decent casino in that collapsing town, I discovered that toothbrushes and toothpaste are no longer sent to the room for free. It seemed like a total Comfort Inn move — until I called the Comfort Inn in Paramus, New Jersey, and found out that they actually do provide complimentary toothbrushes.
What’s next for cheapskate casinos? Requiring players to pay taxes on their losses?
Considering the greed of these places and the compulsions of their customers, it will only half-surprise me.
This article originally appeared in the New York Post and was reproduced with permission.
 

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If it works out right other casino's will advertise they don't charge for parking and draw business away. Unfortunately the Big Guys in town are monopolizing the strip so they own multiple properties along the strip which sucks. I, myself, haven't been to the strip in 6 years and I live here. But out here in the burbs Station's is king but they know better than to fuck with us because we will fight back and in a hurry. They know that. So far it's gotten better with their deals but we are always on a watchful look to skip across the street to Sam Boyd properties or vice versa.
 

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Strip casinos have changed a lot the last 10-15 years. Now it seems to cater more to the "party scene" than gambling.
 

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Strip casinos have changed a lot the last 10-15 years. Now it seems to cater more to the "party scene" than gambling.

Yup, & the party scene people will throw money around & not care what the article states above. I don't know how Atlantic City casinos are still open.....with.every state around them opening multiple casinos. Pa has was more casinos than AC.

I don't even think legalized sports betting will save AC.......it would have helped AC years ago, but that town is like a ship with several holes having water come in.......& IMO, they've always been way over charging for their room rates.

Now the article states casinos in Vegas are charging for parking, & no tooth brush in the rooms? Oh how money has gotten tight.......& casinos not wanting to.pay out at the slots after a big win explaining how the machines has a fault??

Crooked management at its finest........maybe next time your at the roulette wheel & you have $100 spread out, & your number doesn't come up, you can complain bout the dealer bumping the wheel or something.......that's basically what the casinos ate doing by saying bullshit about a slot machine not working right.......

I've never heard of a casino yelling how bad a slot player is losing after dropping several thousand & reimbursing their money because the machine supposedly wasn't working properly!
 
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Well since I was just at the Mirage. Our driver told us the story on the way to the Hotel.

What the MGM did was sell the Valet to an Outside Company. He told me the name but forgot...

He said even the MGM Employees have to Pay for Parking !! Now that's a Slap in the face.
 
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Well since I was just at the Mirage. Our driver told us the story on the way to the Hotel.

What the MGM did was sell the Valet to an Outside Company. He told me the name but forgot...

He said even the MGM Employees have to Pay for Parking !! Now that's a Slap in the face.

you are seeing businesses managed by people that never have had experience in the day to day operations make decisions like this, and not just in the Vegas/casino/gambling world. The business world in and of itself has allowed so many top managers to get to where they are without experiencing why the cash flows in or out. The "bubble" will burst, just like the housing bubble. Politicians secrety like to depend on the "dumb public", yet that same "dumb public" always has a way of working out these "bubbles" of bad choices/business moves.

I will be out there Ina. Week. Will be interesting to see what inexperience as I haven't been in a little bit.
 

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I know the Mohegan Sun has changed the way it's comping players as a way of cutting costs. I spoke to a pit boss complaining about how little I'm getting for playing craps recently, and he essentially told me they're cutting back.

Then he increased my average bet significantly that day in an attempt to make me happier, but I'm still kinda pissed.

It used to take a couple of sessions / visits to win have enough comp for gourmet dinners and let my wife shop a little too, now I get enough for a nice burger every visit (maybe) Now I have to save my points for a dinner

Think I'm going to check out Foxwoods on my next excursion
 

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I know the Mohegan Sun has changed the way it's comping players as a way of cutting costs. I spoke to a pit boss complaining about how little I'm getting for playing craps recently, and he essentially told me they're cutting back.

Then he increased my average bet significantly that day in an attempt to make me happier, but I'm still kinda pissed.

It used to take a couple of sessions / visits to win have enough comp for gourmet dinners and let my wife shop a little too, now I get enough for a nice burger every visit (maybe) Now I have to save my points for a dinner

Think I'm going to check out Foxwoods on my next excursion
Depends how much you play/volume, because you can get additional perks/points with their choice credits, etc
 

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Depends how much you play/volume, because you can get additional perks/points with their choice credits, etc

I used to get choice credits, I don't get those anymore

What they do now more so than they have in the past is give me free rooms and Bonus Bets, but I prefer the points
 

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you are seeing businesses managed by people that never have had experience in the day to day operations make decisions like this, and not just in the Vegas/casino/gambling world. The business world in and of itself has allowed so many top managers to get to where they are without experiencing why the cash flows in or out. The "bubble" will burst, just like the housing bubble. Politicians secrety like to depend on the "dumb public", yet that same "dumb public" always has a way of working out these "bubbles" of bad choices/business moves.

I will be out there Ina. Week. Will be interesting to see what inexperience as I haven't been in a little bit.

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And here in NYC we still have to drive at least an hour and a half out of state for legal gambling and poker......
 

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Vegas is for suckers. Over priced.
 

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Complete bullshit in almost every possible way. The 6-5 blackjack games are limited to the low limits on the strip and some downtown casinos and a few single deck or $2 games elsewhere. Comps (drinks included) are still over 20% of theoretical losses. The pay-to-park is in response to completely full garages and too many of us who would visit and not spending anything. Kaplan seems to focus his attention on the strip, which is one 3.5 mile stretch of road in a 600 square mile valley. The strip is about selling luxury tourism at luxury prices, comparable to Orlando, Manhattan or Hawaii. Off the strip the casinos will often pay you for little more than walking through the door and understanding the odds. Do any other cities offer such a good deal?
 

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Best place on earth aint cheap! I will be there for 2016 SB. Hit me up if any Rx'ers are there!
 
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It's only matter of time before pay to park is the norm. It will be similar to 6/5 BJ and resort fees; outrage, a little bit of lost business, then the leeches will realize they can get away with it.
 

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Best place on earth aint cheap! I will be there for 2016 SB. Hit me up if any Rx'ers are there!

no shit, dinner on the strip and good seats to a top show cost at least $ 400 per couple per night

does anyone know of cheaper or cost cutting alternatives? going there in September
 

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no shit, dinner on the strip and good seats to a top show cost at least $ 400 per couple per night

does anyone know of cheaper or cost cutting alternatives? going there in September
will you be gambling (non sports)?
 

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no shit, dinner on the strip and good seats to a top show cost at least $ 400 per couple per night

does anyone know of cheaper or cost cutting alternatives? going there in September

Don't go to the strip. Same food for less than half the price just a few miles away. Shows are hit and miss. Of the expensive ones I've seen (one cirque, one resident, one headliner), none of them were better than a $10 movie. A few cheap ones were actually very good.

A couple places have advertised 100x odds on craps, which could cut the house edge to as low as 0.01% depending on budget. Or play blackjack instead with a negative house edge. Or other games very close to the strip for a player advantage at low limits.
 

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It's only matter of time before pay to park is the norm. It will be similar to 6/5 BJ and resort fees; outrage, a little bit of lost business, then the leeches will realize they can get away with it.

6-5 blackjack is not the norm. It is only at the lowest limit strip games and some downtown games. At $25 or more it's almost all 3-2. For the other 100 casinos in the city it's only on some single deck games and some games with $1 or $2 minimums
 

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