was it?? where was this reported? i couldn't believe this scammer somehow had his story pointed out on yahoo ugh
i went to his site for a good laugh and he was claiming something like a 114-2 record despite how nothing of his was documented lmao
just another joke desperate for money. highly doubt he'd get any
I've had his MLB package past two seasons. Last years futures bet was 100% legit. His record is also correct however it must be noted it is a four game chase. The 2014 season went unbeaten as far as I remember and last year saw one loss however last year had two different chase systems, one was a unit and for half a unit. The half unit system lost. I'll try find the email giving out last years future pick and post it
Ok we are starting our system plays tomorrow. This will be a lengthy email so please read everything.
We have 2 systems. System one was 30-0 and system two was 100-6 and it was tracked last year. I would play 1 unit a game on system one and half a unit a game on system two for now. A unit is 5% of your bank roll so your if your bank roll is 10k then its 500 a unit for system one and 250 for system two. Last year I went for an undefeated record but the system was really 50-2, I cherry picked some of them. This year Im giving out pretty much all the plays, so with this being said we will have some losses. Again we will have some losses. I plan to play between 50-100 games so im hoping to keep the losses to 8 and under. Before I explain the systems here are some other things I want to cover. I do not allow any reselling of my packages and picks. If I find out and I have in the past I will take you off the email list. I do offer kickbacks for referrals from 250-500 a pop. There will be a ton of cappers that say they have the systems, they don't! 90% of the people in this industry are dishonest bums. I have never given out system two so how in the world can they have it? Also I have so many players so please stop emailing me dumb questions like when the next game is and are we doing parlays and shit like that. I will block your email. Please be patient like everyone else. You will know when the next play is because you will get an email the night before. We may have 2-4 plays a week or maybe no plays for 2-3 weeks. Just be patient. I will be sending email from both vegasdave1976@yahoo.comand vegasdave1976@hotmail.com
These are my only 2 email addresses I use. These packages are for system plays only. I do not give out weekly plays, I play them myself but will not give them out for my own reasons. Stick to the system plays those have been money and that's what you paid for. Also I may or may not have a playoff and WS package for sale in September. Again this is for both systems only. Below is the instructions on how to play the system. For my returning players you know how. The first play tomorrow is the Miami Marlins at +110. U will all think im crazy taking the last place marlins with only one win against the red hot first place braves.
These rules apply for both systems one and two. This marlins and braves is a 3 game series.
So tomorrow bet one unit on the marlins game one lets say ur unit is 100. If the marlins win game one we are done we have won that series you wait for the next email. If they lose game one you double to 200 on game two. If we win game two then we are done. If we lose game two you double to 400 on game 3. Most of the time its a 3 game series but sometimes its a 4 game series. In that case if it went to game 4 you would play 800 on game 4. Now please listen we only won 25% of the time on game one last year. We don't panic if we lose game one or two we just need to win game 3 or 4. Now u can only imagine how crazy it would be if we have 3 system plays in one week and they are all on the final game of the series, so strategize your bank roll and manage your money. Again we will have losses they may all come in the beginning, middle, or end. If we have 2 losses off the bat then that will affect your bank roll. I have no clue when the losses will come so again manage your money wisely. Its nice to win game one but getting to game 3 or even game 4 if its a 4 game series gives us bigger payouts. The marlins will be plus money this whole series they are the underdog. If another system play is emailed to you and they are the favorite lets say -150 then you would bet 150 on game to win a 100. We may have 1-2 system 2 plays on Tuesday, if we do I will email you Monday night. Many of you know Im very good at predicting long shots to win the World Series. As of now I like the royals at +3000 to +2500. Meaning 1k wins you 30k or 25k depending where u get it. Last but not least I just launched my new website an hour ago www.itsvegasdave.com Check it out when you have a chance. Good luck to a great season.
We have 2 systems. System one was 30-0 and system two was 100-6 and it was tracked last year. I would play 1 unit a game on system one and half a unit a game on system two for now. A unit is 5% of your bank roll so your if your bank roll is 10k then its 500 a unit for system one and 250 for system two. Last year I went for an undefeated record but the system was really 50-2, I cherry picked some of them. This year Im giving out pretty much all the plays, so with this being said we will have some losses. Again we will have some losses. I plan to play between 50-100 games so im hoping to keep the losses to 8 and under. Before I explain the systems here are some other things I want to cover. I do not allow any reselling of my packages and picks. If I find out and I have in the past I will take you off the email list. I do offer kickbacks for referrals from 250-500 a pop. There will be a ton of cappers that say they have the systems, they don't! 90% of the people in this industry are dishonest bums. I have never given out system two so how in the world can they have it? Also I have so many players so please stop emailing me dumb questions like when the next game is and are we doing parlays and shit like that. I will block your email. Please be patient like everyone else. You will know when the next play is because you will get an email the night before. We may have 2-4 plays a week or maybe no plays for 2-3 weeks. Just be patient. I will be sending email from both vegasdave1976@yahoo.comand vegasdave1976@hotmail.com
These are my only 2 email addresses I use. These packages are for system plays only. I do not give out weekly plays, I play them myself but will not give them out for my own reasons. Stick to the system plays those have been money and that's what you paid for. Also I may or may not have a playoff and WS package for sale in September. Again this is for both systems only. Below is the instructions on how to play the system. For my returning players you know how. The first play tomorrow is the Miami Marlins at +110. U will all think im crazy taking the last place marlins with only one win against the red hot first place braves.
These rules apply for both systems one and two. This marlins and braves is a 3 game series.
So tomorrow bet one unit on the marlins game one lets say ur unit is 100. If the marlins win game one we are done we have won that series you wait for the next email. If they lose game one you double to 200 on game two. If we win game two then we are done. If we lose game two you double to 400 on game 3. Most of the time its a 3 game series but sometimes its a 4 game series. In that case if it went to game 4 you would play 800 on game 4. Now please listen we only won 25% of the time on game one last year. We don't panic if we lose game one or two we just need to win game 3 or 4. Now u can only imagine how crazy it would be if we have 3 system plays in one week and they are all on the final game of the series, so strategize your bank roll and manage your money. Again we will have losses they may all come in the beginning, middle, or end. If we have 2 losses off the bat then that will affect your bank roll. I have no clue when the losses will come so again manage your money wisely. Its nice to win game one but getting to game 3 or even game 4 if its a 4 game series gives us bigger payouts. The marlins will be plus money this whole series they are the underdog. If another system play is emailed to you and they are the favorite lets say -150 then you would bet 150 on game to win a 100. We may have 1-2 system 2 plays on Tuesday, if we do I will email you Monday night. Many of you know Im very good at predicting long shots to win the World Series. As of now I like the royals at +3000 to +2500. Meaning 1k wins you 30k or 25k depending where u get it. Last but not least I just launched my new website an hour ago www.itsvegasdave.com Check it out when you have a chance. Good luck to a great season.
I can't believe people would believe when someone claims 150-2 record. Come on, even if you bet the biggest favorites in baseball you cannot get that record after 152 games. This guy probably relies on newbie bettors who fall for this since the managed to get on tv using the small affilate networks of big names like fox/nbc/espn etc.
If you are going to use handicappers stick to proven cappers like bettingresource who release picks only on major markets so the limits are high and the lines wont move easily even if you bet a lot. Good cappers always have a source to help potential clients make money free so that they can use the winnings to subscribe.
If you are going to use handicappers stick to proven cappers like bettingresource who release picks only on major markets so the limits are high and the lines wont move easily even if you bet a lot. Good cappers always have a source to help potential clients make money free so that they can use the winnings to subscribe.
It's a Martingale type system. It's like betting on black at roulette and if you don't hit, double your bet again on black, and if you don't bet double your bet again....that's why his record is "so good" at 150-2 or whatever bcuz he doesn't count all those losses as a loss. It's retarded and the average bettor doesn't have a big enough bankroll to be successful in this system. It's surprising to me how "big" this guy is. It's always the car sales man types to run scams like this and always get away with it.
Yes, and we would all go broke with this system. However, this guy has an unlimited bankroll via some way other than sports betting. So, I do believe he makes money. But, yes, do not pay for his services.
He seems to be legit at picking his futures. However, again, the guy is filthy rich (anyone know how?) and maybe is just future betting a shit load of teams for the publicity, to have a ridiculous ticket at the end of the season.
ive seen his snapchat - drives around bentleys and is always getting bottle service somewhere like XS. + has some ridiculous property in Cabo.
I'm not trying to be a "hater" ...but the place in Cabo isn't his...Yet! He says he is going to buy it sometime soon. It is a sick ass place tho. I do agree, the guy has lots of money. Or he makes it look like he has money. But that doesn't mean his "system" is the reason why.
I also want to add to my comment I made earlier, in MLB, he claims that he does a chase system and that you take X team at ML +110 for $100. Then he says, if we don't win, double your bet on them again next game for $200......What happens if the 1st game in the series they are at ML +110 and 2nd game they are at ML -130 or worse? Then in that case, you have put up total of $300 to win $140?? A total LOSS of $160.....That is a fucking horrible system!
i can confirm, Zack is right, its a martingale system. Someone here was posting his chased teams last season. I dont remember what happend, but at the Allstar break he was down because the he lost two chases early. Not sure how it ended up, but really anyone can create this type of chase. Look at a series and the pitching rotation. I dont think its smart in the long run, but paying Vegas Dave THOUSANDS of dollars for this type of system is just plain ridiculous.
I ran his system and parlay package last year, and his picks are legit. He posts the majority of winners on social media and tracks unit wins as well, which is where you can see losses reflected. Posters in this thread are correct that it's a martingale system, meaning a "win" is over a series, not individual game. I'm fairly new at recurring sportsbetting, so my record keeping really isn't that good, I tracked plays through July then gave up, for various reasons. I ended up winning money, but not much based on the amount of action I had. Here's a bullet breakdown on my thoughts:
That's really all I have to say, the facts are there for you. I apologize for not having better record keeping I could share, but the volume of bets you get can be tiresome to track. I intend on buying his parlay package again this year, but not the system one. You need a large bankroll and balls of steel, but there is a high likelihood you will have a decent return on the investment.
- Obviously get the packages early and split them with people to make them as cheap as possible
- if the $1,500 is too much for you to stomach, I recommend you stop sportsbetting all together
- Each series win is designed to net one unit profit, but a single series loss will eliminate 15-25 units of win
- This means you're hoping for no more than 2 losses, any more and you're probably at a loss for the year
- If you run his system, you need to play 100% of the plays, exactly how he says to play them, maintaining unit discipline (This is true for following any capper though)
- You need to have a large bankroll for this, I would recommend $10k minimum, but honestly $20k minimum sounds more appropriate
- Bankroll is needed because each week he could give anywhere from 1 to 3 system plays, plus various action plays (I'll show the system math later)
- I recommend putting the bankroll on an online account, preferably one he recommends. This is because his bets tend to be a bit unorthodox, based on alternative lines & reverse lines. Most casinos don't take the different lines.
- His system picks come out on Sunday night and it's up to you to do the rest, action plays come out through the week
- His system picks are typically strong home favorites. On June 20, 2016 BOS hosted CHW and started off -210. They did not win until a nail-biting fourth game. Odds fluctuated between -200 and -230 if I'm not mistaken. Using a consistent -200 as an example, here's how I won my $200:
- Game 1 - Bet $400, series loss of ($400)
- Game 2 - Bet $1,200 series loss of ($1,600)
- Game 3 - Bet $2,800 series loss of ($4,400)
- Game 4 - Bet $6,000 series win of $200
- He opened the season with the first 6 system bets not going into game 3, but you have to be ready to put down $10k just to win $200. not to mention the odds fluctuated throughout the series. This is why my second bullet point sounded so rude. Also, if he gives 2 system picks in the same week, and they both go to games 3 or 4, even a $20k bankroll will be stressed.
- A strong negative is his lack of professionalism, I never felt like him and I were a team, merely I got scraps from his table.
- Some action bets or parlays came out while the game was in warm-up. I work a desk job in a casino, and missed bets because I didn't have time to place
- He tells you what units to bet, but his winning tickets show he doesn't follow his own units. There were times he would say Bet 1 unit on multiple winners, and his posted tickets had different wagering amounts.
- He says he avoids action for action sake, but seems to be reactionary. More bets came out after we lost our only system loss of the season (ARI @ SF, April 18, 2016). Also, after his $1M loss on Meisha Tate in UFC 200 the amount of bets that came out increased, with larger wagers. They turned out well, but I wouldn't have minded a more conservative approach.
- His parlay package won money, but on less than 50% of tickets
That's really all I have to say, the facts are there for you. I apologize for not having better record keeping I could share, but the volume of bets you get can be tiresome to track. I intend on buying his parlay package again this year, but not the system one. You need a large bankroll and balls of steel, but there is a high likelihood you will have a decent return on the investment.
So you risked $10,400!!! to win $200!!hno: .....If you had that much money to begin with, there are a lot more safer and WAY MORE lucrative investments you could make. Anyways GoodLuck!
I absolutely agree with you, which is why I will only be running the parlay package this year, my stomach couldn't handle it! I laid out an extreme example with high juice, but most of the odds were -130 to -180 throughout the season.
Just keep in mind that when he posts a huge win at MLB it's a gross win ticket, not showing the series losses.
Well Yeah, that is part of what makes a Tout a Tout! Showing off 1 piece(the HUGE win) of the whole story.
I'm honesty just trying to build my bankroll to around 10k / 12k and then I'm going to take my shot moving to Vegas. Maybe someone should Slapping-silly90)) me and make me realize reality! Haha I've been watching too many videos on Vegas Dave
