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The US has vetoed a United Nations Security Council resolution condemning the killing of the spiritual leader of Palestinian militant group Hamas.
Sheikh Ahmed Yassin - a paraplegic who used a wheelchair - died on Monday in an Israeli missile attack.

A majority of council members voted for the resolution, but the US employed the veto reserved for permanent members.

The US called the resolution "one-sided". It had demanded Palestinian militant groups be named in it.

The resolution's sponsor Algeria said it seemed the Security Council was "doomed to fail" when dealing with Middle East issues.

Vote scuppered

The draft resolution condemned "the most recent extrajudicial execution committed by Israel".

It also condemned "all attacks against any civilians as well as all acts of violence and destruction".

THE WAY THEY VOTED
For: China, Russia, France, Angola, Chile, Pakistan, Spain, Algeria, Benin, Brazil, Philippines
Abstained: UK, Germany, Romania
Veto: US
Eleven members approved the resolution - two more than the nine required to pass it - but the US envoy used the veto available only to the five permanent members of the council.

Three countries - the UK, Germany and Romania - abstained.

The "targeted assassination" by Israeli security forces of Sheikh Yassin brought tens of thousands of Palestinians out on to the streets in fury and drew condemnations from governments around the world.

Israel defended its actions, calling Sheikh Yassin the "greatest arch-murderer" and accusing him of masterminding terrorist operations.

'One-sided'

"Israel's action has escalated tensions in Gaza and the region... but events must be considered in their context," said the US ambassador to the UN, John Negroponte.

But he added that the proposed resolution was "silent about the terrorist atrocities committed by Hamas", calling it "unbalanced, one-sided".

He called for Hamas and other militant groups to be identified in the draft by name.

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Algeria's ambassador, Abdallah Baali, said the failure of the vote meant "the Security Council is not sending the right message to the world, which has unanimously condemned this crime.

"But it is certainly sending the wrong message to Israel."

He added: "As if doomed to fail whenever it has to deal with the intractable situation of the Middle East, the Security Council has come to the conclusion once and for all that it has no say in the terrible tragedy that is unfolding in this part of the world."

The BBC's correspondent at the UN, Susannah Price, says the backers of the bill probably feel the majority vote in favour of the resolution gives them the high ground, despite its ultimate failure.

The resolution may now be taken to the 191-member UN General Assembly, where the US has no veto.

Unlike resolutions endorsed by the Security Council, the draft would not acquire the force of international law were it passed in the General Assembly, but it would send a strong message.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3568349.stm
 

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Did the UN overwhemingly approve of the sending of retarded children with suicide vest into jewish daycare centers yet?...Or are they waiting for the US to give them more foreign aid so Arafat can imbezzile the money into a french bank?
 

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No wonder the US wants the international suckers in on its "war on terror".
It needs foreign cannon fodder for its overseas policies.

US vetos resolution on Yassin.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3568349.stm

US vetos resolution on Israeli wall.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3192762.stm

US vetos resolution on removal of Arafat
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3119224.stm

United States:
Eight of the last 10 vetoes at the Security Council have been by the United States, and seven of these have been of draft resolutions criticising the Israeli Government in some way.

In total, the US has blocked 36 draft resolutions on Israel.
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Since 1945, when the United Nations was founded, the Soviet Union and Russia have used their veto at the Security Council 120 times, the United States 76 times, Britain 32, France 18 and China only five.
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50% of all vetos concerned Israel...
Its YOUR war, so YOU go and fight it.

Never mind dragging the international community and the UN into YOUR conflict.

Its definitely a personal thing for the US in the middle east.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2828985.stm


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Yeah lets condemn the killing of terrorists. We should tell the UN to go #*%# themselves and meet on someone elses land.
 

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Why don't you just drop the bull and make Israel the 51st state?

Stop crapping about, its pretty obvious that the US/Israel relationship is WAY beyond S.Vietnam or anything else.

(...they could even have their own little unique star of david on your flag.)

Its like the office affair between the boss and the photocopy girl.
Everyone knows they're humping each others brains out, but the place acts like theres nothing going on.

Complaints about her ridiculous behavior are ignored by management and she has her own dodgy expense account/company credit card.

Go on Mr America, make an honest girl out of Miss Israel.
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As far as the UN is concerned, you could shut it down and house 50,000 Palestinian refugee families in there.
The Europeans adore huge unweildy bureaucratic monoliths, they would happily build a new UN HQ in Bern or Zurich (Somewhere nice anyway, close to luxury amenities)

[This message was edited by eek on March 26, 2004 at 06:28 AM.]
 

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Shouldn't the UN Security Council condemn the Palestinians for using a naive minor for suicide bombings?

I agree with condemning Israel but Palestine and their ruthless tactics are equally if not yet much more guilty.

Personally, I think that it is much worse to use innocent and naive children for suicide bombings than to kill an old fart terrorist sitting on a wheelchair.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by eek:
Why don't you just drop the bull and make Israel the 51st state?

Stop crapping about, its pretty obvious that the US/Israel relationship is WAY beyond S.Vietnam or anything else.

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Everyone has been brainwashed into a naive state of indifference to the plight of a group of people without a Country who can't put money in their pocket or get them votes. I support the right of Israel to exist but the oppresed have become oppressors. The Palestinians are getting desperate at this point and I don't want to see anything bad happen to anyone. Nostradamus predicted WWIII would take place in that area and we are doiong our best to fullfill his prophecy. Patriot you really need to read one of David Icke's books. ALlthough not 100% factual they provide some insight that you could use.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Patriot:
Did the UN overwhemingly approve of the sending of retarded children with suicide vest into jewish daycare centers yet?...Or are they waiting for the US to give them more foreign aid so Arafat can imbezzile the money into a french bank?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Although I do not like Arafat, can't you see Patriot that this has been done throughout history to smear people and make them lose credibility with the people they rule.
 

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Borax thats bullshit....do the palastinians that live like poor pack rats in Jordon blow themselve up.
60 minutes the left wing TV magazine had a piece on how Arafat takes money from US and puts it in his own account in France and starves his people....Those people will never get anything...they hell bent on killing jews thats it...the rest is bullshit.
 

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Just imagine how quickly peace would come if Israel did become the 51st state...
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by eek:
Its like the office affair between the boss and the photocopy girl. Everyone knows they're humping each others brains out, but the place acts like theres nothing going on.

Complaints about her ridiculous behavior are ignored by management and she has her own dodgy expense account/company credit card.

Go on Mr America, make an honest girl out of Miss Israel.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well done.

[This message was edited by xpanda on March 27, 2004 at 03:40 AM.]
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Patriot:
Borax thats bullshit....do the palastinians that live like poor pack rats in Jordon blow themselve up.
60 minutes the left wing TV magazine had a piece on how Arafat takes money from US and puts it in his own account in France and starves his people....Those people will never get anything...they hell bent on killing jews thats it...the rest is bullshit.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Fair enough. But the fact that Arafat's actions are despicable does not automatically mean that the Isaeli/US coalition deserves a halo. In this case, both sides practice and/or endorse highly destructive campaigns.

It's a major shitstorm waiting to happen.
 

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Just a simple fact...The US refused the scolding unless there was somthing that said something about the terroist behavior...in other words to use eeks piss poor analogy...if your going to condemn one than your going to have to condemn the other.

By the way this thoughtless condemnation was one sided is the type of thing Kerry is willing to support from the UN.

Where was the UN when that retard was forced to strap on "belts-O-fun"?...I'm looking all over for that reprimand.

As we have all very well been a witness too...UN resolutions aren't worth the stolen paper their printed on.

[This message was edited by Patriot on March 27, 2004 at 08:21 AM.]
 

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X...By the way, the shitstorm that may be happening was the release of a flyer signed by other palastinians to their leadership to knock off the bull shit and come to an agreement...Its funny how people still think that the "Palastinian Authority" who had the best sweetheart deal that they could imagine given to Ararat, who promptly tore it up during the Clinton years could possibly think that they want something other than to inihilate the jews living in that area....Dead Jews are the prize...Peace is the excuse.
 

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There are weird parallels between the past and present. Its like a mirror image situation.

In WW2.
The Germans hated the Jews and they could do no right. They were worthless.

In WW3 if it arrives.
The Americans love the Jews and they can do no wrong. They are sacred cows.

Maybe if they start getting treated on an equal footing like the rest of us, we might see some stability in the middle east.
 

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There will be no peace in the Middle East for many years. Just as the different ethnic and religious groups of Serbia have been unable to get along (for almost 1000 years), the Jews and Arabs will not get along.
 

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eek,

Could the so-called love affair that you think the U.S. has with Israel be connected in any way to the fact that they're an ally of ours? I'm no fan of the U.N. but Israel has voted with the U.S. more than any other country. In times like these, it makes sense that we would have their back. These types of concepts are lost on a lot of people on this board but not to me.

Stability in the Middle East is not desired by all parties. Because of this attitude there can't be peace. You have to want it.
 

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Fair enuf.
Its your bed. You lie in it.

Just don't drag the rest of us into it thx.

(The rights and wrongs can sort themselves out.)

I don't envy ya.

The difference between the middle east and somewhere like Serbia BTW, is the fact that you have chosen to heavily arm one side, as well as actively fxxxing-over the other side.

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It will be interesting to watch the NATO scam unfold.
I can't see the Euro dudes being too keen to be used as a colonial buffer zone.
Whats that cheesy description being used....

"reform initiative for the greater Middle East"

...it does sound better than
"lets ALL get in up to our asses guys."

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The thing is, if Pakistan has internal problems and starts to crumble, you're going to find your resources getting seriously stretched between Iraq, Afghanistan, and anywhere else you're wired into.
There's a lot of balls being juggled here.
 

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Good article on Israelie strategy and the guy in the wheelchair.
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The implementation of this strategy requires, in the Israeli view, strikes against Hamas and similar groups, which would otherwise declare victory when the Israeli forces leave.

The overall lesson to be drawn from these events is that there is really no prospect for peace, that the roadmap has been rolled up and that another 20 years of war is the most likely scenario.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3556593.stm

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Just had a thought.

If Hamas began to directly attack US targets would the US move in to the West Bank and Gaza?

Funny how they only get involved with Israelie targets, I mean, there must be sympathisers abroad who would actively target US interests.

Methinks there must be something that has not been mentioned in the press so far, something's missing here.
The pictures' not right, why is AL-Q happy to blow US personnel to pieces, (like the Iraqis), and Hamas not???

[This message was edited by eek on March 27, 2004 at 04:58 PM.]
 

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Took me a an hour to figure out WTF was going on....
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Hamas is the political successor to Arafat when he pops his paws.
 

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