Damn, where to start. Well, first, you assume I'm foreign. Second, you assume I'm saying gringo's are going to be missed. Last you assume this is only about books.
I said this country is going to hell because it stifles it's economy every fucking chance it gets. The elite of the country are content with the drug and gun money that floods this economy, so they don't worry about promoting business. You know, those things that make money and actually produce jobs. Those crazy for profit organizations that want a things that to you must seem silly, like a system that respects jurisdictions and the word of law. Whether it is a sports book or a or gold mining company should be irrelevant.
You yourself have been impressed with the anti-business stance the elites take (like the 15% of incoming wire's getting frozen).
But don't worry about assuming, I wouldn't expect anything more from you.
Oh and regarding your 'brilliant' comment of this is an 'illegal' business, it is only 'illegal' in the US. Modern civilization is based on law and order. If you knew anything about law, you'd know there is a thing called jurisdiction. Now if you understood this concept, you'd understand that, although the US likes to play like we live in a one world government, that isn't the case. Therefore since the Costa Rica businesses didn't break the Costa Rica law, they should not be prosecuted.
Since these concepts might be hard to grasp, here is an example: In Iran it is illegal to produce bibles. If you produce bibles in Costa Rica, where it is legal, and send them to Iran, you aren't an illegal business in Costa Rica. You would be an illegal business in Iran though, and should never travel there, or even try to change planes. Now, if Iran 'helped out' costa rica like the US does, and asked for a favor of the OIJ to fuck up the people who were selling bibles to Iran, you'd likely consider this to be the lawlessness of corrupt governments. However, for whatever reason, when a similar situation happens in gambling between US and CR, you say 'they had it coming'. I wonder what is up your a**. I have a few guesses, but I'd rather not be like you.
Completely agree. Disgusts me to see how the CR government is handling this. They have been sucking on the teat of online gaming companies and ancillary service providers for years now, you would think they would want to keep the teat strong and healthy so they could continue sucking. Guess that is too forward thinking of a plan.
Further, you would expect someone to stand up and remind the world of the USA and their WTO obligations which they are once again in violation of.
I'm just sayin
Further, you would expect someone to stand up and remind the world of the USA and their WTO obligations which they are once again in violation of.
I'm just sayin
No, not regardless of where you are located. Businesses are illegal based on each country and the treaties they have. Your lack of understanding of basic legal concepts is quite typical. However, it doesn't excuse the ignorance behind it.
Your falling for the logical fallacy of appeal to authority. It's flawed, you can go round and round in circles with it, but it doesn't stop being flawed.
Obviously it is a different ball game. I never argued that. Costa Rica's elite have a lot to gain by bending over backwards for the USA, not much for Iran.
But that doesn't make my example invalid. In fact, it illustrates the concept of jurisdiction, something you seem ignorant of. If you stopped and thought about it, maybe you'd understand.
BTW, nice try at an ad hominem. Real classy and the kind of thing one would expect from you. Fortunately for me, I can argue, and wipe the the floor with your ass in a debate any day of the week, without having to incur in desperate logical fallacies.
Yes, you are right. They are called extradition agreements. They work on the concept that if someone is breaking similar laws in a country a person can be extradited. Like if you sell cocaine in the US or any other fucking country CR has an extradition treaty and you come here, they will extradite you. Because what you are doing is illegal in both countries. That is what extradition treaties are all about. If you don't believe me, how about you look at this 'agreement' you are talking about. That way, you can see that you are talking out your a**
http://www.costaricalaw.com/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=72
In fact, CR is going to obey the US one, since it is for money laundering. I can't see how they'd do it on anything else. But that is still bullshit. Because money laundering by definition is hiding the sources of illegal proceeds, be it tax evasion, drug trafficking or anything else. The gambling they call illegal was not illegal, in fact, they know it, which is why their case revolves around money laundering and bank fraud. In fact, none of those companies normally uses CR to money launder, they just bring in money to pay employees.
Again assuming. Din't you learn how you end up looking when you assume? Most people learn this in high school.
Yes, they responded this time, but it isn't like they always respond. They do so when it is convenient for them. Not when jurisdiction demands. Like the rule of law would dictate. And that is what I'm criticizing (lack of respect for laws) and their anti-business mentality.
Fine, then change CR law to make US facing sportsbooks and casinos illegal. Again, we are going back to your lack of understanding of legal concepts.
I agree with that part.
That is bullshit. People who earned money in gambling earned it. You wanna see entitlement? Go to to the gov. Business make money, they earn it. Whether you like it or not. Whether it rubs you the wrong way or not. It's called capitalism.
In fact, for someone so anti gambling, I'm not sure what you are doing on a gambling forum.
Hmmm, this has a painfully obvious answer: Because there is a ton of money in it. Why else?
Oh yes, CR's elites make all their money from cars that get sold to $300/month indentured servants. They don't need drug or weapons money. Righhhhhhhtttt...
Oh no, I forgot, they say they make their money from tourism. Funny how demand for luxury goods kept up even with the downturn in tourism. You have to be really naive to believe that a large percentage of CR's economy doesn't depend on drugs (south to north) and guns (north to south).
This is true.
Actually, if you visit the strip clubs you will see the cartels having a blast. And everyone, from the strippers to the politicians, know what those guys are up to, but turn to look the other way. They make a ton of money of it, and since Washington's war on drugs is just a sham for the sheeple like you, there is not real power behind stopping it.
And I never argued that the gaming industry wasn't pulling the tigers tail. The DOJ has every right to freeze these people's assets that are on US soil, or in US companies (like US banks). They have a right to arrest people on US soil. That is part of the game. It is by the rules.
However, by freezing assets and doing the kinds of things they are doing to individuals in sovereign countries where those individuals aren't breaking local law, is against the rules of engagement that THEY MADE UP.
You see, the US makes the rules, and when someone beats them with their own rules, they just play like those rules never existed.
Why do you think antigua won in the WTO?
Oh, and I know the US doesn't play by the rules they create. I'm not indicted am I?
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But in any case, your going off in a tangent because I highlighted how you were being an a**.
I said this country is going to hell in a hand basked, and every possibly statistic (crime, divorce, corruption) supports this.
You are arguing otherwise. So if you have a point, and aren't just speaking out your ass, show me some proof, or go away with your tail between your legs. ~~:<<
See wordstage. Not everyone is as ignorant as you are. Good to see some people understand the term jurisdiction.
Crazy how this legal thing works with these concepts and all.
Oh, and I hope one day your business is affected by Illegal US protectionism and you get screwed out of everything you own. So then some broke ass on a forum can call you 'greedy and entitled' and say how the US was right in accusing you of {insert generic law}
You're both missing a little concept called Nexus.
Two of the crimes were allegedly committed in the United States: the bank fraud (hah, like the banks didn't know what was up) using U.S. bank accounts declared for other purposes; and money laundering, which unfortunately has a very broad definition in the United States (and very narrow in Costa Rica, not even The Brothers had the charge stick).
These crimes were committed not by the poker companies but by their U.S.-based payment processors. However this isn't a fair game, the game is rigged in favor of the house. The House in this case is the DOJ game of asset forfeiture and extortion.
So lesson to be learned, don't expose yourself to any Nexus in the United States (advertising, bank accounts, payment processors, domain names, hosting, etc), not even through third-parties. This limits funding options, however, mostly to wire transfers.
As far as gambling being illegal, there is in fact no federal law what-so-ever making any form of interstate online gambling illegal except for sports wagering. They left it intentional ambiguous to allow the setup and expansion of state-granted-monopolies, such as that ironically setup in Washington DC of all places, and Commerce has been trying to setup in California.
Two of the crimes were allegedly committed in the United States: the bank fraud (hah, like the banks didn't know what was up) using U.S. bank accounts declared for other purposes; and money laundering, which unfortunately has a very broad definition in the United States (and very narrow in Costa Rica, not even The Brothers had the charge stick).
These crimes were committed not by the poker companies but by their U.S.-based payment processors. However this isn't a fair game, the game is rigged in favor of the house. The House in this case is the DOJ game of asset forfeiture and extortion.
So lesson to be learned, don't expose yourself to any Nexus in the United States (advertising, bank accounts, payment processors, domain names, hosting, etc), not even through third-parties. This limits funding options, however, mostly to wire transfers.
As far as gambling being illegal, there is in fact no federal law what-so-ever making any form of interstate online gambling illegal except for sports wagering. They left it intentional ambiguous to allow the setup and expansion of state-granted-monopolies, such as that ironically setup in Washington DC of all places, and Commerce has been trying to setup in California.
But in any case, your going off in a tangent because I highlighted how you were being an a**.
I said this country is going to hell in a hand basked, and every possibly statistic (crime, divorce, corruption) supports this.
You are arguing otherwise. So if you have a point, and aren't just speaking out your ass, show me some proof, or go away with your tail between your legs.
Your maturity and ability to argue coherently are on par with a 10 year old. Either that or you are a troll, in any case, I'll be ignoring your posts.
