Underworld over 21 +150

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O.K. here we go again, how many times have I quoted the Yahoo Buzz Index and got burned... But still, for a movie to have 33 points on the index, indicating over 25 million, and to get over 21 at +150, now that's some mother****in' value dawg. There are some things going against it. At first the buzz was very strong, but the early screening reviews posted at Ain't it Cool News have been crapping all over this film. I attribute that to the movie-snob/art-fag/loser-fanboy demographic that sight caters to more than anything else, since the movie does blatantly rip off the Matrix and Blade among other things. Still, will this keep the average moviegoer away? I don't think so... but if the movie geeks don't go that's gonna be a hit to the movie's bottom line. It's R, but I don't think that will prevent it from potentially making 30 million this weekend. I don't know where WSEX has been getting their lines recently but they were way off last week, no doubt Once Upon A Time In Mexico had great "tracking" so they had it pegged at 28 million even though no one on the net was predicting a number that high. Now they've got a somewhat low number for a movie some people are calling "highly anticipated." I don't know if they opened it at +150 or it got bet up to that, but even if the tracking was weak for this one I'm willing to bet that the tracking is off this week. Mainly because of the buzz chart, in which it's been doing very well on for over a week now, and now has more points than Mexico did, and that movie made 24 million. BUT it's only #2 on moviefone behind OUTIM so there's another bad indicator. That chart isn't always accurate, though, I've chosen to ignore it. It will be the #1 movie this weekend, no doubt about it.

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holy crap since I wrote that it's now down to over 20 +115, under 20 -150
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hsxr's have been selling their Underworld stock like hot-cakes. I hate to say it, but the demographic most likely to see this film are probably aslo the most likely to catch wind of the negative internet reviews.
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Hey Oren,

If you think it's going to go OVER 25 million... then you should check out Intertops... they have Underworld over 25 million for a cool +220.

How's that poor chicken?
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I was thinking about it... I think what kept me away was seeing that the under 19 1/2 million at Olympic is getting hit... what the hell is up with that? this movie's gonna do 23 or 24 in it's sleep! plus the stock price on this movie is something like 66 bucks, which is pretty pathetic. I don't know, I thought it was going to be a hit and when I saw the Yahoo buzz number I assumed I was right, but all these other factors have be second-guessing myself. Even I'm considering not seeing it anymore since the reviews have been bad so far.
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"Well, went to see "Underworld" and was surprised to find the place about 85-90% full for a 12:00 showing."

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based off this one crowd report I've renewed hope that my Underworld -3
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over Once Upon A Time in Mexico still has a fighting chance.
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"Oren, those crowd reports mean nothing man, get a clue."

I'll just talk to myself from now on since no one seems to care anymore.
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Have anyone seen Underworld?

Thats crazy - you can wager on movies? LOL
 

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Thanks for the great news... Oren. A ray of hope.

Speaking of Buzz charts... what do you suggest the buzz rating equals in million.

A buzz score of 25 = ? (how many millions)
A buzz score of 65 = ?

Etc.

You da man!!!!
 
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I was keeping track of them for a while, then lost my notes and haven't done it for a while now, maybe I can find those notes... I imagine the disparity between the summer movie scores and fall movie scores might be hard to figure out but maybe not. OUTIM was something like 24, which isn't a lot... it definitely would have swung me to bet under 28 if it wasn't for the fact that it looked like people were betting the over, and I've been killed betting against the public there so I didn't hit it. Although they aren't always right, the public was wrong with Bad Boys 2 and T3, among others. The buzz index can be dodgey as well, but more often than not it will give you a clue as to where a movie stands.
 
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more positive theater reports have been rollin' in. I forgot to mention it has a kick-ass trailer.
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will go over 21, but damnit, not enough, of course, to beat OUTIM. I've seriously got to stop thinking I'll get a better line by betting early. Early on Underworld looked like a winner over mexico, but the last minute marketing campaign focussing on Depp, along with the harsh internet crticism of Underworld sank that ship. I could have gotten it at Underworld -.5, which probably still would have lost.
 

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I took 19 - 24.9 million at Intertops. Which I think has a great chance of hitting. That unhappy face was for you. Three great movies coming out next weekend. The Rundown, Duplex, and some chick flick. Any thoughts big O?
 
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yeah, I know... 22 mil, easy call. good job. I'm getting the feeling that the Rundown is going to do well, the trailer is good, but I heard that all the good parts are all in the trailer, but that won't matter. I imagine it will do 25 million?
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no sign of it yet on the buzz chart, tho
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