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From a earlier post I made a month ago.

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Wager the under on totals of 5.5 or against the Western Conference.

Two strong angles should be noted regarding the Bruins propensity to go under the number.

1) Last year they went 21-41 when the total was set at 5.5.

2) The Bruins recorded a 1-8-1 O/U mark versus the Western Conference last year.

In the ten games they played versus the west only once did the two teams combine to score more than 5 goals. That lone game was early in the season, at Los Angeles, and had Manny Fernandez against Jonathan Bernier in nets. Seven goals were scored in the third period alone and the 8-6 Bruins final went a long way in skewing Boston’s season ending 5.1 goals per game average.

It should be also noted that the Bruins were only 1 of 4 Eastern Conference teams to have a winning record against the west.<!-- / message --><!-- edit note -->


Fade Calgary In October

October is not Calgary’s month. Since the lockout the Flames have started their seasons in the following manner.

2005-06.….Calgary won just 4 of their first 13 games.
2006-07.…..Calgary won just 3 of their first 12.
2007-08.…..Calgary won just 6 of their first 17.

13 wins and 29 loses. After that they post winning records and have made the playoffs every year.

I can’t explain entirely why this dichotomy exists but a good beginning would be to look at Miikka Kiprusoff’s splits. He is a notorious slow starter. His lifetime October GAA is 2.98 and includes a .893 save percentage. More than one half goal worse than any other month during the season.

Kiprusoff has another disturbing trend. His numbers have steadily declined since he led Calgary into the 2004 Stanley Cup final. After he was traded to Calgary, (in November 2003), he posted a 1.69 GAA and .933 save percentage for the Flames in the '03-'04 season.

In 2005-06 his numbers rose to 2.07, .923.
I suppose we can excuse that jump to the new rules of the post lockout NHL. But what excuse can we give him for the next two years?

When the league averages for scoring began to steady, (and eventually decline), Kipprusoff’s continued to climb.

2006-07.……..2.46 GAA…… .917 save percentage
2007-08.…….2.69 GAA……. .906 save percentge

His GAA has risen exactly one full goal since 2003.

Kiprusoff and the Flames have another long standing trend. They win at home and struggle on the road. Since the lockout Calgary has won 81 of their 123 home games. At the Saddledome Kiprusoff has a lifetime record of 92-31-3-15, (W-L-T-OTL). He has 18 shutouts in those games, a 1.94 GAA, and .927 save percentage. On the road his lifetime GAA grows to 2.77.

How does this home/road split translate into Calgary’s futile Octobers?

I mentioned earlier the Flames had a 13-29 record to start the last three seasons. The home/road breakdown amounts to, 9-12 at home and 5-17 on the road. Clearly profitable numbers either way considering the juice you’d have to lay fading them on the road or the plus price you’d get by betting against them at home.
 

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were you going to be playing these tonight?


I'm still waiting on the Bruins under but I am taking:
Boston +115
Vancouver -125
Detroit -1.5 -105, (not the best line...+105 currently available at BetVegasVic)
 

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love the plays vic, am playing all the same plays except for the boston under, but more cause I hadnt taken a look at the totals yet. GL tonight.
 

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Good info and GOOD LUCK

anything on how teams do in their home openers? or if they are usually high or low scoring?
 

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Good info and GOOD LUCK

anything on how teams do in their home openers? or if they are usually high or low scoring?



Facts, figures and records: season-opening games Friday, 10.03.2008 / 5:59 PM / Season Preview
NEW YORK -- The National Hockey League opens the 2008-09 regular season Saturday in Prague, Czech Republic, with the New York Rangers taking on the Tampa Bay Lightning. Immediately following, the Pittsburgh Penguins and Ottawa Senators open their seasons in Stockholm, Sweden. Following is a look at team and individual performances in season-opening games:

TEAMS' RECORD IN SEASON OPENERS THROUGH 2007-08

PCT TEAM GP W L T/OT GF GA



.700 Ottawa Senators 15 8 2 5 51 40

.696 Colorado Avalanche 28 16 5 7 110 77

.667 Tampa Bay Lightning 15 9 4 2 51 39

.652 New Jersey Devils 33 18 8 7 118 94

.643 Minnesota Wild 7 4 2 1 16 10

.622 Montreal Canadiens 90 48 26 16 310 225

.607 Edmonton Oilers 28 15 9 4 86 81

.581 Buffalo Sabres 37 20 14 3 123 110

.581 Vancouver Canucks 37 20 14 3 124 115

.550 St. Louis Blues 40 18 14 8 140 132

.538 Los Angeles Kings 40 17 14 9 122 117

.538 Philadelphia Flyers 40 18 15 7 117 112

.537 Chicago Blackhawks 81 35 29 17 222 234

.536 Florida Panthers 14 6 5 3 40 40

.536 Phoenix Coyotes 28 13 11 4 92 84

.525 Dallas Stars 40 16 14 10 137 126

.519 Detroit Red Wings 81 35 32 14 232 233

.515 Washington Capitals 33 16 15 2 113 112

.506 Boston Bruins 83 34 33 16 240 241

.488 New York Rangers 81 33 35 13 231 229

.475 Pittsburgh Penguins 40 16 18 6 133 138

.457 Calgary Flames 35 11 14 10 119 116

.456 Toronto Maple Leafs 90 33 41 16 266 272

.444 Nashville Predators 9 4 5 0 24 24

.429 Columbus Blue Jackets 7 2 3 2 17 17

.371 New York Islanders 35 9 18 8 96 118

.339 Carolina Hurricanes 28 6 15 7 71 99

.313 Atlanta Thrashers 8 2 5 1 12 20

.313 San Jose Sharks 16 3 9 4 45 60

.286 Anaheim Ducks 14 4 10 0 29 45



TEAMS' RECORD IN SEASON OPENERS PLAYED AT HOME



PCT TEAM GP W L T/OT GF GA



1.000 Minnesota Wild 4 4 0 0 15 6

.857 Florida Panthers 7 5 0 2 27 16

.844 New Jersey Devils 16 11 0 5 70 35

.731 Colorado Avalanche 13 8 2 3 52 33

.700 Tampa Bay Lightning 10 6 2 2 39 25

.690 Edmonton Oilers 21 13 5 3 70 59

.688 Washington Capitals 16 11 5 0 60 47

.684 Montreal Canadiens 57 34 13 10 203 119

.674 Buffalo Sabres 23 14 6 3 93 71

.667 Phoenix Coyotes 18 11 5 2 72 58

.667 Anaheim Ducks 3 2 1 0 9 11

.650 Dallas Stars 20 12 6 2 76 56

.644 Boston Bruins 52 28 13 11 188 150

.638 Chicago Blackhawks 40 20 9 11 120 105

.635 Philadelphia Flyers 26 15 8 3 86 69

.630 Detroit Red Wings 46 26 14 6 137 105

.600 St. Louis Blues 15 8 5 2 61 48

.600 Columbus Blue Jackets 5 2 1 2 14 12

.596 Vancouver Canucks 26 14 9 3 82 71

.565 Los Angeles Kings 23 10 7 6 74 59

.521 New York Rangers 24 10 9 5 80 70

.500 Ottawa Senators 5 2 2 1 17 15

.500 New York Islanders 4 2 2 0 12 10

.500 Calgary Flames 19 7 7 5 67 56

.500 Toronto Maple Leafs 55 22 22 11 169 153

.500 Nashville Predators 6 3 3 0 16 14

.476 Pittsburgh Penguins 21 8 9 4 62 60

.467 Carolina Hurricanes 15 4 5 6 33 45

.400 San Jose Sharks 10 3 5 2 31 40

.300 Atlanta Thrashers 5 1 3 1 7 12


TEAMS' RECORD IN SEASON OPENERS PLAYED ON THE ROAD



PCT TEAM GP W L T/OT GF GA



.800 Ottawa Senators 10 6 0 4 34 25

.667 Colorado Avalanche 15 8 3 4 58 44

.600 Tampa Bay Lightning 5 3 2 0 12 14

.545 Vancouver Canucks 11 6 5 0 42 44

.520 St. Louis Blues 25 10 9 6 79 84

.515 Montreal Canadiens 33 14 13 6 107 106

.500 Los Angeles Kings 17 7 7 3 48 58

.474 New York Rangers 57 23 26 8 151 159

.474 Pittsburgh Penguins 19 8 9 2 71 78

.471 New Jersey Devils 17 7 8 2 48 59

.439 Chicago Blackhawks 41 15 20 6 102 129

.429 Buffalo Sabres 14 6 8 0 30 39

.406 Calgary Flames 16 4 7 5 52 60

.400 Dallas Stars 20 4 8 8 61 70

.386 Toronto Maple Leafs 35 11 19 5 97 119

.371 Detroit Red Wings 35 9 18 8 95 128

.357 Edmonton Oilers 7 2 4 1 16 22

.357 Philadelphia Flyers 14 3 7 4 31 43

.355 New York Islanders 31 7 16 8 84 108

.353 Washington Capitals 17 5 10 2 53 65

.333 Nashville Predators 3 1 2 0 8 10

.333 Atlanta Thrashers 3 1 2 0 5 8

.300 Phoenix Coyotes 10 2 6 2 20 26

.274 Boston Bruins 31 6 20 5 52 91

.214 Florida Panthers 7 1 5 1 13 24

.192 Carolina Hurricanes 13 2 10 1 38 54

.182 Anaheim Ducks 11 2 9 0 20 34

.167 Minnesota Wild 3 0 2 1 1 4

.167 San Jose Sharks 6 0 4 2 14 20

.000 Columbus Blue Jackets 2 0 2 0 3 5


ACTIVE NHL HEAD COACHES IN SEASON OPENERS



Pct. Head Coach GP W L T/OT



1.000 Tom Renney, NYR 5 5 0 0

1.000 John Stevens, Phi 1 1 0 0

1.000 Tony Granato, Col 1 1 0 0

.786 Craig MacTavish, Edm 7 5 1 1

.750 Michel Therrien, Pit 4 3 1 0

.750 Guy Carbonneau, Mtl 2 1 0 1

.700 Dave Tippett, Dal 5 3 1 1

.692 Jacques Lemaire, Min 13 8 3 2

.682 Ken Hitchcock, CBJ 11 6 2 3

.667 Randy Carlyle, Ana 3 2 1 0

.667 Wayne Gretzky, Phx 3 2 1 0

.600 Mike Babcock, Det 5 3 2 0

.500 Lindy Ruff, Buf 10 5 5 0

.500 Craig Hartsburg, Ott 6 3 3 0

.500 Andy Murray, StL 7 3 3 1

.500 Claude Julien, Bos 4 2 2 0

.500 Terry Murray, L.A. 10 5 5 0

.500 Barry Melrose, T.B. 3 1 1 1

.500 Mike Keenan, Cgy 16 6 6 4

.444 Barry Trotz, Nsh 9 4 5 0

.417 Alain Vigneault, Van 6 2 3 1

.400 Peter Laviolette, Car 5 1 2 2

.346 Ron Wilson, Tor 13 4 8 1

.000 Denis Savard, Chi 1 0 1 0

.000 Brent Sutter, N.J. 1 0 1 0

----- Bruce Boudreau, Wsh 0 0 0 0

----- Peter DeBoer, Fla 0 0 0 0

----- Todd McLellan, S.J. 0 0 0 0

----- Scott Gordon, NYI 0 0 0 0

----- John Anderson, Atl 0 0 0 0


LONGEST WINNING STREAKS IN SEASON OPENERS



9 1978-1986 St. Louis Blues

9 1953-1961 Montreal Canadiens

8 1947-1954 Detroit Red Wings

8 1987-1994 Boston Bruins

8 1981-1988 Colorado Avalanche


Longest Active Streak:



5 2002-2007 Tampa Bay Lightning

4 2003-2007 Edmonton Oilers

4 2003-2007 Ottawa Senators


LONGEST UNDEFEATED STREAKS IN SEASON OPENERS



17 1963-1979 Montreal Canadiens (13-0-4)

15 1940-1954 Detroit Red Wings (14-0-1)

12 1987-1998 Boston Bruins (9-0-3)

10 1996-2006 Dallas Stars (7-0-3)


LONGEST WINLESS STREAKS IN SEASON OPENERS

12 1982-1993 Detroit Red Wings (0-8-4)

10 1997-2007 St. Louis Blues (0-6-4) (Active)

8 1945-1952 Toronto Maple Leafs (0-4-4)

8 1987-1994 Carolina Hurricanes (0-6-2)

8 1939-1946 Boston Bruins (0-5-3)


LONGEST LOSING STREAKS IN SEASON OPENERS


7 1993-1999 Anaheim Ducks (0-7-0)

7 1972-1978 Dallas Stars (0-7-0)

6 1999-2005 Pittsburgh Penguins (0-6-0)

6 1949-1954 New York Rangers (0-6-0)

5 1942-1946 New York Rangers (0-5-0)

5 1979-1983 Carolina Hurricanes (0-5-0)

5 1988-1992 Toronto Maple Leafs (0-5-0)

5 2002-2007 Calgary Flames (0-5-0) (Active)



FASTEST GOALS FROM THE START OF A SEASON-OPENING GAME


Date Teams/Score Scorers/Team Time

10/11/1986 MIN 4 at QUE 4 Kent Nilsson, MIN 0:10

10/07/1981 WSH 3 at BUF 5 Ryan Walter, WSH 0:12

10/31/1943 TOR 4 at CHI 1 Bill Mosienko, CHI 0:13

10/07/1981 PIT 5 at CHI 5 Denis Savard, CHI 0:13

10/30/1943 NYR 2 at TOR 5 Gus Bodnar, TOR 0:15


MOST GOALS IN A SEASON OPENER


5 Joe Malone, MTL 12/19/17 (at OTT)

5 Harry Hyland, Mtl. Wanderers 12/19/17 (vs TOR)

5 Babe Dye, TOR 12/16/22 (vs MTL)

4 Reg Noble, TOR 12/19/17 (at Mtl. Wanderers)

4 Rick Blight, VAN 10/ 6/76 (at PIT)

4 Greg Adams, VAN 10/ 8/87 (vs STL)

4 Chris Kontos, TB 10/ 7/92 (vs CHI)



ACTIVE PLAYERS WHO HAVE SCORED 3+ GOALS IN A SEASON OPENER



3 Teemu Selanne, WPG 10/06/1993 (vs WSH)

3 Paul Stastny, COL 10/03/2007 (vs DAL)


MOST ASSISTS IN A SEASON OPENER


5 Greg Adams, NJ 10/10/1985 (at PHI)

5 John Cullen, PIT 10/05/1990 (at WSH)


ACTIVE PLAYERS WITH 4+ ASSISTS IN A SEASON OPENER


4 Mark Recchi, MTL 10/10/1998 (vs NYR)

4 Darcy Tucker, TOR 10/10/2002 (at PIT)

4 Steve Reinprecht, PHX 10/05/2006 (vs. NYI)


MOST POINTS IN A SEASON OPENER

Player/Team Date G-A--PTS


Kevin Stevens, PIT 10/05/1990 at WSH (2-4--6)

Phil Esposito, BOS 10/10/1973 vs VAN (3-2--5)

Gilbert Perreault, BUF 10/10/1974 vs BOS (3-2--5)

Joe Malone, MTL 12/19/1917 at OTT (5-0--5)

Harry Hyland, Mtl. Wanderers 12/19/1917 vs TOR (5-0--5)

Greg Adams, NJ 10/10/1985 at PHI (0-5--5)

Andy Bathgate, NYR 10/07/1955 at CHI (1-4--5)

John Cullen, PIT 10/05/1990 at WSH (0-5--5)

Michel Goulet, QUE 10/04/1983 vs NYI (1-4--5)

Babe Dye, TOR 12/16/1922 vs MTL (5-0--5)

Tom Fergus, TOR 10/09/1986 vs MTL (3-2--5)

Steve Reinprecht, PHX 10/05/2006 vs NYI (1-4--5)


MOST CAREER GOALS IN SEASON OPENERS


Dino Ciccarelli 14

Michel Goulet 14

Brett Hull 13

Alexander Mogilny 13

Cam Neely 13

Maurice Richard 13

Luc Robitaille 13

Brendan Shanahan 12

Aurel Joliat 12

Guy Lafleur 12


Active Players:


Joe Sakic, COL 11

Viktor Kozlov, WSH 10


MOST CAREER POINTS IN SEASON OPENERS


G A PTS

Ray Bourque 9 21 30

Jaromir Jagr 9 21 30

Wayne Gretzky 9 18 27

Joe Sakic, COL 11 15 26 (Active)

Phil Esposito 11 14 25

Michel Goulet 14 11 25

Gordie Howe 8 17 25

Al MacInnis 8 17 25

Adam Oates 1 24 25


Active Players:

G A PTS

Joe Sakic, COL 11 15 26

Mark Recchi, T.B. 8 14 22

Mike Modano, DAL 9 12 21
 

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Great info guys. Once things settle down in the markets and my head is on straight, I will hopefully be able to do some data mining and contribute similar info to the Forum.

Thanks again.
 

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Fade Calgary In October

I can’t explain entirely why this dichotomy exists but a good beginning would be to look at Miikka Kiprusoff’s splits. He is a notorious slow starter. His lifetime October GAA is 2.98 and includes a .893 save percentage. More than one half goal worse than any other month during the season.
Well done on the picks. I've read about Kiprusoff doing no off-season training, just fishing in a wood cabin on a fjord.
 

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