Trains, I cant find that old thread that you are talking about but I did want to add to Tulsa that I tried this short term using the higher over/unders thinking that would give me an edge. Short term (1 month) there was no difference between the 10 and over games and the 9.5 and under games. My next thought was looking at the pitching matchups and and only taking the games if the pitchers, for example, have an avg era of 4.5 or worse. I think there might be a mechanical key to this if we can find it.