Tuesday: Will the Rays Ever Score Again?

[ofred]

1-1 Monday, and one push.

STL -1 (-107) 3 units. I want to take this for more, but the line is moving the wrong way. Why? I have no idea. I have watched Tampa play Seattle in their recent series. They are awful, they play in a mausoleum, and they can't hit any pitcher that is not below average. Let's examine their past 3 weeks: They got 3 runs off of Chris Young, who is having a decent year, but is a fly ball pitcher topping out at 85 mph. They beat up on Jacob Turner, the Miami starter, who has been getting killed all year, and got a few runs off Buehrle and Huchinson in Toronto. Otherwise, they have been getting blanked. They almost never score against relief pitchers, they have no rallies beyond 2 runs, and I don't see how they'll score on Wainwright. Molina, at the #9 spot, is worse than a pitcher, Longoria and their other power hitters only hit HRs off of bums, and right now I'm wondering why Joe Madden would want to stay in Tampa.

Odorizzi has been less than spectacular. Yes, he has had a few good games vs. punchless Seattle in May, and vs. Cleveland when they were slumping, but really he's a below average AL starter who needs perfect command to do well. The Cardinals are coming off of 2 nice wins off of red hot Toronto, and though they aren't hitting all that well, should win this mostly because they CAN hit while the Rays are a lost cause. I will probably see this line jump up in the morning and wonder why I didn't play 5 units.

 

[ofred]

SF -1 (+114) One unit. An underdog of sorts. The Giants have their ace on the mound, the Nats are playing over their head, and I can't see the Nats continuing their offensive surge here. The Giants BP has been superb, even better than Washington. Bumgarner can induce ground balls and strike batters out. He has been especially effective of late.

 

[ofred]

1-1 Monday, and one push.

STL -1 (-107) 3 units. I want to take this for more, but the line is moving the wrong way. Why? I have no idea. I have watched Tampa play Seattle in their recent series. They are awful, they play in a mausoleum, and they can't hit any pitcher that is not below average. Let's examine their past 3 weeks: They got 3 runs off of Chris Young, who is having a decent year, but is a fly ball pitcher topping out at 85 mph. They beat up on Jacob Turner, the Miami starter, who has been getting killed all year, and got a few runs off Buehrle and Huchinson in Toronto. Otherwise, they have been getting blanked. They almost never score against relief pitchers, they have no rallies beyond 2 runs, and I don't see how they'll score on Wainwright. Molina, at the #9 spot, is worse than a pitcher, Longoria and their other power hitters only hit HRs off of bums, and right now I'm wondering why Joe Madden would want to stay in Tampa.

Odorizzi has been less than spectacular. Yes, he has had a few good games vs. punchless Seattle in May, and vs. Cleveland when they were slumping, but really he's a below average AL starter who needs perfect command to do well. The Cardinals are coming off of 2 nice wins off of red hot Toronto, and though they aren't hitting all that well, should win this mostly because they CAN hit while the Rays are a lost cause. I will probably see this line jump up in the morning and wonder why I didn't play 5 units.

Still can't understand why the line dropped on this. I'd like to add that Odorizzi usually goes 5-6 innings, and the Tampa BP has been awful for the most part. It's now closer by committee.

 

[ofred]

Miami TT over 4 (-115). Two units. Colby Lewis gives up that many in the first few innings sometimes, or gets lit up in the middle of the game. Lewis has been especially bad at home(and he's had pitching issues there in past years too). Anyways, the stadium in Arlington has been a hitter's paradise for the Rangers and visiting teams. The thin, dry air and a small foul territory, I guess. Add to that a poor Ranger BP and a pretty good hitting attack of the Marlins, and 4 looks good. They will also bat in the 9th for sure.

 

[scarab]

Dumb question where is it -107 ny pinny acct still shows -129 unless it dipped and was bet back

 

[JustinCruise]

I am on st louis money line but be mindful of overconfidence here. This is a typical trap spot coming off two shutouts.

 

[ofred]

Dumb question where is it -107 ny pinny acct still shows -129 unless it dipped and was bet back

It was -107 for the -1, not the ML.

 

[ofred]

I am on st louis money line but be mindful of overconfidence here. This is a typical trap spot coming off two shutouts.

Baseball is a sport, unlike others, where players play on an even keel day in day out. I like the Cardinals confident after the 2 shutouts. I'd be more worried if they had lost the 2 games.

 

[scarab]

sorry my mistake

 

[JustinCruise]

Baseball is a sport, unlike others, where players play on an even keel day in day out. I like the Cardinals confident after the 2 shutouts. I'd be more worried if they had lost the 2 games.

strongly disagree

 

[mgh56]

Really like Stl as well. GL.......

 

[d3nv3r]

Like STL also here but this line is fishy, should be way lower...

 

[ofred]

I think the line should be more like -140 or more. Tampa doesn't play well at home, they play in front of a quiet and small bunch of fans, and really have no home field advantage. I've seen teams in the throes of poor hitting and it can go on for weeks, even months(with a few decent hitting spurts within that time). With Seattle, SD and Houston(prior to this year), it can go on for years. That's what the Rays look like now, and I'm not sure they have the players to break out of it. The best thing Tampa DOES have is a good farm system, and some talent on the way.

 

[ofred]

The Rays didn't score and I still only get a push. How do the sharp players KNOW that STL won't hit or that Odorizzi will pitch that well?????

 

[JustinCruise]

The Rays didn't score and I still only get a push. How do the sharp players KNOW that STL won't hit or that Odorizzi will pitch that well?????

that's why you take moneyline and don't even mess with runlines. Nice cash for me and -125 was a bargain (only reason i bet it)

gl

 

[powerz]

I am on st louis money line but be mindful of overconfidence here. This is a typical trap spot coming off two shutouts.

that's why you take moneyline and don't even mess with runlines. Nice cash for me and -125 was a bargain (only reason i bet it)

gl

Justin

Could you you be any more of a douche

fred posts quality stuff day in and day out and you come in and show him up in his own thread.

Thanks for posting Fred stop by everyday for a read

powerz

 

[ofred]

Everybody is a genius in hindsight. But I don't sweat it.

 

[PatsFanatic]

that's why you take moneyline and don't even mess with runlines. Nice cash for me and -125 was a bargain (only reason i bet it)

gl

I disagree strongly. I have been winning at an unbelievable rate playing run lines. If you like a game enough to bet it, then why wouldn't you take the highest odds offered.
I did not like ST.louis enough to bet them last night, not to mention my book was offering me +110 on the RL which was a shitty return in my opinion. So I laid off altogether.

Glad it was a push for Fred and a winner for you though :toast: