Trump says 'Second Amendment people' could stop Clinton

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Trump says 'Second Amendment people' could stop Clinton



By Ben Kamisar - 08/09/16 03:34 PM EDT


Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump appeared to joke about the possibility that Hillary Clinton could be shot in remarks at a campaign rally Tuesday in Wilmington, N.C

Trump was discussing the possibility that Clinton, the Democratic nominee, would be able to appoint liberal justices to the Supreme Court if she wins the race for the White House.

He then said that there was nothing that could be done in that scenario, before mentioning “Second Amendment folks.”

“Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish the Second Amendment,” Trump said to boos from the crowd.

“By the way, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do folks,” he then added.

“Though the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don't know.”

The Clinton campaign responded with a statement, with campaign manager Robby Mook saying: “This is simple — what Trump is saying is dangerous. A person seeking to be President of the United States should not suggest violence in any way.”

Democrats pounced on the comments, with Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.) tweeting that the Secret Service must investigate Trump's "threat," while progressive group MoveOn released a statement calling on Republicans to reject Trump's campaign in response.

On Twitter, a number of observers noted that it appeared that Trump was discussing the possibility, even if he were joking, that Clinton could be shot.

The Trump campaign downplayed the controversy in a statement attacking the "dishonest media."
“It’s called the power of unification – 2nd Amendment people have amazing spirit and are tremendously unified, which gives them great political power,” Jason Miller, a top Trump aide, said in the statement.
And this year, they will be voting in record numbers, and it won’t be for Hillary Clinton, it will be for Donald Trump.”
Trump has repeatedly used Supreme Court vacancies as a key cudgel against Clinton and a way to convince wary Republicans to jump onto his campaign.
Clinton staff began to respond on Twitter, with spokesman Ian Sams blasting Trump's "new level of unacceptable behavior."

Justin Barasky, the spokesman for the pro-Clinton super-PAC Priorities USA sent the clip out to reporters with the comment "THIS IS NOT OK."

The comment comes just one day after Trump sought to reset the controversy dogging his campaign with a highly-touted and scripted economic speech.

- Updated at 4:11 p.m

 

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Donald Trump: Maybe "Second Amendment people" have a way to stop Hillary Clinton's judges

Updated by Andrew Prokop on August 9, 2016, 4:14 p.m. ET @awprokop
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Speaking at a rally in Wilmington, North Carolina, on Tuesday, Donald Trump made an offhand comment that "Second Amendment people" might have some unspecified way to stop a President Hillary Clinton’s judges from abolishing gun rights.
"Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish the Second Amendment," Trump said. "By the way, and if she gets to pick — if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know."
Trump’s remarks are a bit garbled, but they appear to be a joke that gun owners could use their weaponry to prevent the government from rolling back their gun rights. Here’s the full context of his statement, via Politico:

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Donald Trump: "Hillary wants to essentially abolish the Second Amendment."
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Commentators soon debated what, exactly, Trump may have meant.

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Paige Williams
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Did Donald Trump really just semi-incite someone to shoot Hillary Clinton or any federal judge that she appoints?https://twitter.com/SalHernandez/status/763098463676436480 …
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I think he meant you could shoot the judges.
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Philip Klein
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From context, it's also possible that Trump was floating idea of armed rebellion against bad SCOTUS decisions, not assassination.
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Sam Stein
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Trump will say he wants 2nd amendment advocates to convince Senate to block Clinton pick. Keep in mind his advisor called for her to be shot
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Eventually, the Trump campaign released a statement claiming he was just referring to "the power of unification" to stop Clinton's election, which really doesn't seem to be the case based on the original context — as Sam Stein points out, he was talking about judges she'd appoint after she already won.

Hillary Clinton's campaign manager had his own interpretation.

Just another day of the 2016 campaign.

 

[The Guesser]

If the gutless Obama admin had any sack, this idiot would be hauled away in irons.

Did Trump just threaten Hillary?: Says “Second Amendment people” ought to influence Clinton’s SCOTUS nominees

Critics allege the GOP nominee implicitly endorsed gun violence against his Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton

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TOPICS: AL BALDASARO, DONALD TRUMP, ELECTIONS 2016, HILLARY CLINTON, SECOND AMENDMENT, ELECTIONS NEWS,NEWS, POLITICS NEWS

In yet another rambling campaign speech on Tuesday — this time in Wilmington, North Carolina — GOP nominee Donald Trump sneaked in an apparent suggestion that “Second Amendment people” could strong-arm his Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, into nominating Supreme Court judges friendly to conservative causes.


“If [Clinton] gets to pick her judges, [there’s] nothing you could do, folks,” Trump warned, inciting boos from the capacity crowd. “Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is. I don’t know.”
Critics are beginning to argue Trump’s comments insinuated or endorsed violence against Clinton.


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So Trump called for an assassination AND assumes people who support 2nd amendment are okay with it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcxkkrNSv-4 …
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Trump inciting violence against Hillary as president.Says "2nd amendment people" can stop her. It's right here.https://twitter.com/jsavite/status/763093888156442624 …
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[vitterd]

Trump is losing his mind.

 

[Dave007inVegas]

The shit liberals dream up to convulse over.

Bunch of half a fags each and ever one of them.

 

[vitterd]

For repubs this is a non issue but

you didn't build that and what difference does it make get taken out of context and they still use the quotes years laterface)(*^%

 

[The Guesser]

For repubs this is a non issue but

you didn't build that and what difference does it make get taken out of context and they still use the quotes years laterface)(*^%

 

[Dave007inVegas]

Birds of a feather...

 

[Albatross]

Just split the country. Liberals on west coast, repubs on east coast. Have two separate governments. It's pretty simple to see that's where we are going. Rip the bandaid off before it sticks further.

 

[JDeuce]

Non-issue. After all, dimocraps have said for years that the 2A is very vague and difficult to decipher, so by that logic...who knows what The Donald really meant? It's so hard to say...

Back in reality, anyone with half a fucking brain knows exactly what he meant if they actually watched the speech. But we'll let the dims pretend THIS is what finally brings Trump's campaign to a crashing halt. It's funny watching them continually get the rug pulled out from under them on those predictions.

 

[The Guesser]

Gabby Giffords: Trump's '2nd Amendment' Line Insinuates Violence

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ByCATHERINE THOMPSONPublishedAUGUST 9, 2016, 6:38 PM EDT



Former Rep. Gabby Giffords (D-AZ), who survived an assassination attempt in 2011, urged Americans in a statement Tuesday to condemn Donald Trump's remark about "Second Amendment people" taking action to stop Hillary Clinton from appointing Supreme Court judges, saying it could incite violence.

In a statement, Giffords and her husband, former astronaut Mark Kelly, urged Americans to draw a "bright red line" between political speech and advocating violence.
"Responsible, stable individuals won’t take Trump’s rhetoric to its literal end, but his words may provide a magnet for those seeking infamy," their statement read. "They may provide inspiration or permission for those bent on bloodshed."
They went on in the statement to urge Trump's supporters and the GOP nominee himself to "to unambiguously condemn these remarks and the violence they insinuate."
Giffords was shot in the head at a meeting with constituents outside a supermarket in Tucson, Arizona in 2011, leaving her critically wounded. Six others were killed in the massacre.
She was able to walk onstage at the Democratic National Convention last month without assistance. There, she addressed delegates and argued Hillary Clinton would work to reduce gun violence if elected president.
Read the full statement below via the New York Daily News:

“Donald Trump might astound Americans on a routine basis, but we must draw a bright red line between political speech and suggestions of violence. Responsible, stable individuals won’t take Trump’s rhetoric to its literal end, but his words may provide a magnet for those seeking infamy. They may provide inspiration or permission for those bent on bloodshed." “What political leaders say matters to their followers. When candidates descend into coarseness and insult, our politics follow suit. When they affirm violence, we should fear that violence will follow." “It must be the responsibility of all Americans – from Donald Trump himself, to his supporters, to those who remain silent or oppose him – to unambiguously condemn these remarks and the violence they insinuate. The integrity of our democracy and the decency of our nation is at stake.”​

 

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• Elizabeth Warren ‏@elizabethforma 1h1 hour ago
  Your reckless comments sound like a two-bit dictator, @realDonaldTrump. Not a man who wants to lead the greatest democracy on the planet.
  
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  .@realDonaldTrump makes death threats because he's a pathetic coward who can’t handle the fact that he’s losing to a girl.
  
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[KingEleven]

For repubs this is a non issue but

you didn't build that and what difference does it make get taken out of context and they still use the quotes years laterface)(*^%

those statements were NOT taken out of context, are you kidding?

 

[roadreeler57]

Those dumb fucks are trying to imply Trump meant shoot Hillary.......Wackos will stop at nothing to try & hurt Trump even lie....Thats the guy we need in the Whitehouse if they will stoop that fucking low or are just that stoopid....Probably a combination of both...

 

[Dafinch]

If he had been talking about literally ANY other amendment or law, you could at least make the argument that wasn't what he was implying; but, the Second Amendment? Anybody who says that's not what he was saying is an idiot, a liar, or both-and, the Rx is chock full of both, as several of the posts above clearly show.

 

[The Guesser]

My Buddy, ex WABC Talk Show host Jay Diamond

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Why Trump called for the assassination of Hillary Clinton.
When I just heard that Trump suggested that 2nd Amendment supporters should shoot Hillary Clinton even I was shocked that he would succumb to his id a scant few hours after his much heralded "re-set" of reading one speech yesterday.
But it made perfect sense once I learned that he had made this remark to a hall full of Gun Nuts.
And THAT is the key to his evil and his serious mental incapacity such that he must Never be allowed to be president.
Because the very first thing that came into my mind was that over 80% of Americans support background checks for criminal records and severe mental illness, so I was wondering why he would say that at a rally, UNTIL I found out that it was a rally of NRA Hardcore GunScum.
And THEN at once it all made sense: This blithering venomous imbecile cannot control himself when confronted with adoring Chumps whom he knows will Instantaneously satisfy his Dire Need for Cheering Adoration from his jackals.
Now please consider just how sick this is...Time after Time this emotional Infant will without fail dance tricks for an Immediate reward without thought to the longer term consequences because he has the Emotional Life of a Puppy, a Kitten, and a 2 year old human and therefore he is Utterly Incapable of Deferring even the most minute Instant Gratification no matter the consequences to himself.
He is Certifiably NUTS!!

 

[SheriffJoe]

Trump says 'Second Amendment people' could stop Clinton

 

[Coldweather]

Get ya money, guns and lawyers', the shit is about to hit the fan. Vote Trump to make our Country great again. He rocks! cheersgif

 

[superbeets]

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Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani said 'you have to be corrupt' to believe Trump meant to incite people to violence: 'Are you out of your mind?'


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FBI Contacted As Trump Could Face Criminal Charges For Violent Threat Against Clinton

By Jason Easley on Tue, Aug 9th, 2016 at 4:26 pm
The FBI has already been contacted after Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump called for violence against Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.

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The FBI has already been contacted after Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump called for violence against Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.The super PAC Democratic Coalition Against Trump has already contacted the FBI:

The Democratic Coalition Against Trump today reached out to high-level contacts in the Washington, D.C. field office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) to voice concerns about Donald Trump’s call for violence against Democratic Presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, and to argue that Trump should be arrested for attempting to incite political violence.….The Democratic Coalition Against Trump immediately reached out to senior officials from the FBI to raise alarms about this call to violence, and to demand that Trump face felony charges under 18 U.S.C. § 879 for making these threats.“There is no place in American politics for this kind of disgusting rhetoric,” said the organization’s senior advisor, Scott Dworkin. “Donald Trump should immediately drop out of the race, and he should be arrested for committing a federal crime. He’s proven himself to be nothing more than a thug, and anyone supporting him after this grotesque display should be publicly shamed. It’s truly abhorrent and we must all stand united – regardless of party affiliation to say loudly that Americans reject this kind of hateful and dangerous rhetoric.”Trump may have committed a felony by trying to incite violence against Hillary Clinton. Make no mistake about it; Donald Trump wasn’t joking, and he was not talking about anything other than someone shooting Hillary Clinton to stop her from appointing justices to the Supreme Court.The odds are that Donald Trump won’t face any criminal charges because he did not directly say that someone should shoot Hillary Clinton. He made a reference to the Second Amendment as a way to stop Hillary Clinton if she is elected. Trump’s thinly veiled threat might not meet the threshold for criminal charges, but the Republican nominee has crossed a line and needs to be held accountable for the actions that his words may inspire.