Dodo! Maybe you're onto something there...
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From this oldman's perspective, the closest way to a line being a "trap" is when the book sets the line with full anticipation as to where the public action will be. The line is overly inflated on one side or the other, generally the favorite, but not always. Thus, the so called "trap" comes in if one plays into the overinflated line. This is where the term comes from but in reality, it is merely an inflated line not a "trap".
my 2 cents is that it depends on what you mean by the term "trap"....
Does Vegas know the outcome of certain games and then sets a line to try and intice the public into betting on the losing team? NO
Does Vegas have a very good understanding of the tendencies of the public and can they at times estimate how the public will bet a game? YES
When Vegas knows that the public will be more likely to bet one side of a game rather than the other, do they set lines that gives the house extra line-value? YES
Does Vegas know the outcome of certain games and then sets a line to try and intice the public into betting on the losing team? NO
Does Vegas have a very good understanding of the tendencies of the public and can they at times estimate how the public will bet a game? YES
When Vegas knows that the public will be more likely to bet one side of a game rather than the other, do they set lines that gives the house extra line-value? YES
If you read his post, you will see he says it's "generally the favorite" which is correct. It IS generally the favorite. An inflated line, one way OR THE OTHER, where they are practically begging the general public to be one certain way, is the very definition of a trap line, and, they most certainly do exist.
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No, in my reply, I said a line could be set either a favorite or a dog that the book anticipates where public action will fall and inflates or deflates the line accordingly. More times than not it is a favorite, but there are times where you lose value on the dog as well.
No, in my reply, I said a line could be set either a favorite or a dog that the book anticipates where public action will fall and inflates or deflates the line accordingly. More times than not it is a favorite, but there are times where you lose value on the dog as well.
jcampert:
Understood, which is why I waited until late to play Georgetown +3.5. I saw what you saw, it is just a question of terminology. The line was off and the game played out in Georgetown's favor. Syracuse was very fortunate to win that game. As it turned out, the books probably got a pretty good share of being middled as many had Cuse at -2.5 and others the Hoyas at +3.5.
Understood, which is why I waited until late to play Georgetown +3.5. I saw what you saw, it is just a question of terminology. The line was off and the game played out in Georgetown's favor. Syracuse was very fortunate to win that game. As it turned out, the books probably got a pretty good share of being middled as many had Cuse at -2.5 and others the Hoyas at +3.5.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jcambert:
For the record, I stated before the game started that I felt Syracuse was a trap, and, by most accounts, that was GTown's game to cover. And, I felt that Gonzaga was also a trap.
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How was Syracuse a "trap?" The sportsbooks opened Georgetown as a small fav.
For the record, I stated before the game started that I felt Syracuse was a trap, and, by most accounts, that was GTown's game to cover. And, I felt that Gonzaga was also a trap.
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How was Syracuse a "trap?" The sportsbooks opened Georgetown as a small fav.
For the Record: Self Proclaimed Professional Gambler jcambert's TRAP GAMES on Syracuse and Gonzaga, both fail to trap anyone. Confirms either it wasn't a Trap or that he is the Best at figuring out what Vegas will do. Good Day Mr. Professional Gambler, who does it for a living. Your 0-2 Rec for the day, is hitting 100%. Do you have anymore TRAP plays for us.
Goes to show, Boys and Girls, you need to do your homework instead of buying into the Assumptions of others who think they know the deal with Vegas.
Dont Assume if you have no way to back up your assumptions. Aloha CC.
Goes to show, Boys and Girls, you need to do your homework instead of buying into the Assumptions of others who think they know the deal with Vegas.
